Interest Veracity Labs - "The Princess" (Leia lightsaber) hilt Interest Thread

[Verity Cosplay]

If it helps, the art of book for TROS is suppose to be released at the end of the month. Could be a clear picture of the saber in it.

possibly.

At this point really I think I have a solid sense of the outer structures. That windvane inner fan/impeller is what I really need and is the last remaining mystery. None of the photos yet have high enough fidelity AND focus of that spot exactly to clear it all up.

So call to action: THAT is what I need. Pics to get a clear sense of what is going on inside that windvane shroud.

 

[DarkJedi360]

I would be interested in one

 

[Trooper_trent]

So freakin cool. I'm pumped.

 

[Verity Cosplay]

The assembly of the grip area is actually much more complicated than I initially expected and thought. And actually is quite smart. It will actually be super fun to replicate.

 

[The 48th Ronin]

If it helps, the art of book for TROS is suppose to be released at the end of the month. Could be a clear picture of the saber in it.

I wouldn't count on it. Historically, any photos of the actual props would be found in the "Visual Dictionary" books. "The Art of..." books are primarily concept art - the most you could hope for would be a CG rendering, and that might not even match the final design of the prop.

 

[Verity Cosplay]

I wouldn't count on it. Historically, any photos of the actual props would be found in the "Visual Dictionary" books. "The Art of..." books are primarily concept art - the most you could hope for would be a CG rendering, and that might not even match the final design of the prop.

Leia's doesn't even seem to appear in the RoS VD from what I understand. And even if it does it likely is not a detail shot of the windvane to get that detail which really is the only one I am missing at this point.

now I just need to update the model with all the better references I have. Which is underway and in progress.

 

[goldenage]

Isn't it odd that the prop itself hasn't gone on display somewhere?

 

[Grigori]

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Seth got the vertical insets for the switch ring; I’ll be darned! Couldn’t tell that *wasnt* reflection until now

This image looks like the windows in the emitter are in all three spaces, not only the top one. Could it be that the hero has these spaces, but the light prop didn't and effects folks didn't add them when adding the effects?

 

[BRRogers]

This image looks like the windows in the emitter are in all three spaces, not only the top one. Could it be that the hero has these spaces, but the light prop didn't and effects folks didn't add them when adding the effects?

Likely.
the base of the FX blade likely would have been blacked out by electronic components much like standard thin-neck installs would be anyway.

without a clearer picture during that sequence it would be unwise to decide if the walls were machined aluminum to provide support or if it was ‘open air’ and the blade electronics are what we’re seeing.

 

[mgoob]

"Star Wars.com just announced that The Rise of Skywalker Blu-rays come out on March 31"

 

[Verity Cosplay]

This image looks like the windows in the emitter are in all three spaces, not only the top one. Could it be that the hero has these spaces, but the light prop didn't and effects folks didn't add them when adding the effects?

i believe This is exactly what is going on. Stunt has window only at front. Hero has windows between all rings.

i am working on devising fully windowed emitter however this is tricky for in-hilt led or pixel... so stay tuned.

 

[BRRogers]

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"Star Wars.com just announced that The Rise of Skywalker Blu-rays come out on March 31"

You can also download it digitally 4K UHD NOW via Vudu and the Apple iTunes store

 

[Grigori]

i believe This is exactly what is going on. Stunt has window only at front. Hero has windows between all rings.

i am working on devising fully windowed emitter however this is tricky for in-hilt led or pixel... so stay tuned.

Many thanks, that's really exciting to me. I'm a lover of having windows in an emitter, so feel a bit sad that the VFX team didn't fill in those spaces with some blue light in the edit for the film. I would have loved to have seen that!

But yep, can understand how it might be very complicated to make something real-world similar that is installable.

 

[Verity Cosplay]

Many thanks, that's really exciting to me. I'm a lover of having windows in an emitter, so feel a bit sad that the VFX team didn't fill in those spaces with some blue light in the edit for the film. I would have loved to have seen that!

But yep, can understand how it might be very complicated to make something real-world similar that is installable.

we'll see! I'm working on devising a way. We already have recessed blade PCBs in a bunch of hilts out there (our MoM hero included).. it is a small step to expand that recessed PCB to handle a windowed emitter. Trick is how to make that illuminated properly...

 

[goldenage]

"windows between all rings. " - get this to work and we bow down before you, just sayin'

 

[Verity Cosplay]

"windows between all rings. " - get this to work and we bow down before you, just sayin'

just thinking out loud for a second... making the emitter fully windowed is not difficult at all. Plenty of sabers that do have windowed emitters. I'll have to run stress simulations to ensure the tensile stresses there don't cause a problem for dueling contact but I suspect we'd be ok because of the vertical bars running through. If that is all one component it should be strong enough. But simulations would determine that.

that leaves the next challenge: functional install. Looking at the references there clearly is a central pipe running up. That easily could be the pixel or led cup just a longer version of it. But the problem then becomes the illumination of the blade through the windows. So I am not yet sure how to achieve that.

obviously a static emitter and an FX emitter are options also, but... I'd love to kill both birds with one stone.

I am trying to see if I can actually rework the emitter to neck joint and buy some extra room to do a recessed pixel area with the option of using a cup for in hilt LEDs that would go into the blade. If THIS works then pixel blades could be illuminated in each window while in hilt LEDs would Illuminate the last window like the stunt.

I'll keep the group posted on what I come up with but I also have intentionally been a BIT quiet on details here since I know many vendors are racing to make this hilt and I do worry that some of our findings and solutions may get picked up... unfortunately.

 

[Valor]

Hey guys, maybe you already spotted this ..

So staring at these higher-res pics, what stood out to me is my misunderstanding of the Copper/MOP Piece that sits between the Silver Raised Grips. It's clear the Silver Raised Grips are separate pieces that are screwed down. What surprised me is the the Copper/MOP Piece appears to be a separate piece applied between them. And the tube they are both mounted to is silver. You can actually see the Copper/MOP Pieces stick out past the silver grips about 1mm or so. And they appear to be thick/rounded. Very different topology that I originally thought.

The entire Copper MOP Piece seems to be very flat. The copper seems to be a thin sheet of copper on top of the MOP showing through in the middle? I thought this was more complex. Is it literally copper foil over MOP, then stuck down in between the Silver Rails?

 

[Verity Cosplay]

Hey guys, maybe you already spotted this ..

So staring at these higher-res pics, what stood out to me is my misunderstanding of the Copper/MOP Piece that sits between the Silver Raised Grips. It's clear the Silver Raised Grips are separate pieces that are screwed down. What surprised me is the the Copper/MOP Piece appears to be a separate piece applied between them. And the tube they are both mounted to is silver. You can actually see the Copper/MOP Pieces stick out past the silver grips about 1mm or so. And they appear to be thick/rounded. Very different topology that I originally thought.

The entire Copper MOP Piece seems to be ver flat. The copper seems to be a thin sheet of copper on top of the MOP showing through in the middle? YI thought this was more complex. Is it literally copper foil over MOP, then stuck down in between the Silver Rails?

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yep.

 

[Valor]

yep.

Ha! Figured.

 

[Verity Cosplay]

I disagree at the foil part tho. But you definitely are super warm. I have a slightly different theory/conclusion. But similar