Luke Skywalker’s Return of the Jedi lightsabers a Guide

[scarf man]

Can anyone post some pics to replace the ones in the OP that were ruined by Photobucket? I’ll edit the OP and give a little cred. I also should add a link to Seth’s guide.

 

[scarf man]

Also-- this is the thread that inspired me to make the guide.

Thanks for that recognition, I lost track of this thread and just now saw your post.

 

[LOM]

Pick your favorites

Resin Stunt (MoM tour): MoM Resin Cast - Google Drive

Shared Stunt/V3: V3 Pictures (Updated 8/29/20) - Google Drive

And for the Yuma/ISYHANL/Cave Build: Magic of Myth ( MoM ) Luke RotJ Hero ( cave build ) lightsaber research, images, reference, & collaborative model builder's discussion.

(none of these images are mine so no credit needed!)

 

[scarf man]

Pick your favorites

Resin Stunt (MoM tour): MoM Resin Cast - Google Drive

Shared Stunt/V3: V3 Pictures (Updated 8/29/20) - Google Drive

And for the Yuma/ISYHANL/Cave Build: Magic of Myth ( MoM ) Luke RotJ Hero ( cave build ) lightsaber research, images, reference, & collaborative model builder's discussion.

(none of these images are mine so no credit needed!)

Thank you LOM, I’m glad to finally tidy up this thread so it could help someone in the future.

 

[LOM]

When I first started getting into saber props this thread was invaluable as it came up in a lot of searches, so I'm glad to help for future reference. Really helped me get the names down!

Let me dig up a few photos for the ones with the photobucket watermark too:

 

[Dewy]

There’s the resin shared stunt (resin V3) which was posted earlier but isn’t listed in the first post. It can clearly be seen when Luke climbs the side of the sail barge.

Pic from earlier:

Better pic:

Edit: wanted to clarify, these are either different casts of the V3 or the nipple was removable as it can clearly be seen on screen, but not in the promo shot.

 

[scarf man]

There’s the resin shared stunt (resin V3) which was posted earlier but isn’t listed in the first post. It can clearly be seen when Luke climbs the side of the sail barge.

Pic from earlier:

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Better pic:

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Edit: wanted to clarify, these are either different casts of the V3 or the nipple was removable as it can clearly be seen on screen, but not in the promo shot.

Added the pics and a loose representation of what we can classify it as.

 

[LOM]

R2 fired resin Stunt (sail barge scenes)
[ Resin cast of shared stunt/ V2 origin ]
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Climbing resin Stunt (Sail barge scenes)
[ Resin cast of shared stunt/ V2 origin with emitter tip ]

Slight correction - I believe both of these are cast from the V3 rather than the V2 (See: clamp holes on the WIRED saber pic)

 

[BRRogers]

Yuma/ isyhcanl/ cave hero are proven as the same base. Based on everything I’ve seen 100% sure and the box itself too modified from the Yuma through to the cave build

 

[scarf man]

Slight correction - I believe both of these are cast from the V3 rather than the V2 (See: clamp holes on the WIRED saber pic)

I’m happy to omit V2 Provenance from the climbing saber description, however I don’t think there is enough info. on the R2 saber to tell exactly which saber it was a cast of between the V2 & shared stunt.

Yuma/ isyhcanl/ cave hero are proven as the same base. Based on everything I’ve seen 100% sure and the box itself too.

I too believe this to be the case, but thought my labels were clear enough to imply that was the case. I’ll see what I can come up with to clarify while remaining concise.

 

[Dewy]

Yuma/ isyhcanl/ cave hero are proven as the same base. Based on everything I’ve seen 100% sure and the box itself too modified from the Yuma through to the cave build

I agree, the box seems to be the same. My theory is the sharp Yuma lever was bothering Mark Hamill during filming on the barge since we’ve seen pictures of the clamp section all covered in gaffer’s tape. I think they either did a sloppy job removing it on set and had to cover the damage they did up with the black buttons for the ISYHCANL.

 

[BRRogers]

I’m happy to omit V2 Provenance from the climbing saber description, however I don’t think there is enough info. on the R2 saber to tell exactly which saber it was a cast of between the V2 & shared stunt.


I too believe this to be the case, but thought my labels were clear enough to imply that was the case. I’ll see what I can come up with to clarify while remaining concise.

Gotcha. Yeah clarity is good since I’ve encountered many who don’t believe this is the case. Cave build and the MoM tour piece (not cast) is one and the same 100% as well; and has also been the circulation piece in recent exhibits to corroborate.
Haha sorry, I’ve taken it as somewhat of a duty to solidify and reinforce this as fact

 

[Dewy]

I’m happy to omit V2 Provenance from the climbing saber description, however I don’t think there is enough info. on the R2 saber to tell exactly which saber it was a cast of between the V2 & shared stunt.


I too believe this to be the case, but thought my labels were clear enough to imply that was the case. I’ll see what I can come up with to clarify while remaining concise.

The R2 saber is missing the nipple and from the pics I’ve seen doesn’t have the longer V2 lever, since these features were present on the V2 in ANH I think we can safely say it’s a V3 casting or at least wasn’t a V2 casting.

 

[Dewy]

Here’s a picture of the resin R2 saber with a regular Graflex clamp lever circled:

The V2 also doesn’t have a groove between the clamp and booster section like is present in this image and like the other V3 resin saber does. This has me convinced this is a V3 casting, possibly the same as the wired saber?

 

[scarf man]

The R2 saber is missing the nipple and from the pics I’ve seen doesn’t have the longer V2 lever, since these features were present on the V2 in ANH I think we can safely say it’s a V3 casting or at least wasn’t a V2 casting.

I’ll drop the v2 from the R2 saber lineage.
edit: was typing while you posted Dewy

 

[LOM]

Forgot about that one! The hole on the bottom was for the air cannon.

There was some talk about the difference between these before. Some theorized the emitter was a pour spout if I recall, as to why the nipple is on that one. They almost certainly made a few because of the air cannon (I want to say someone mentioned there being a box full at the archives?). We also catch a glimpse of a resin saber when Luke gets ready to swing off the barge:

 

[Dewy]

Can you post a pic other than the one in the op to support your claim? Are you asserting that the climbing and the R2 saber are one and the same? I suppose the emitter nipple could have been removed for clearance of R2’s dome door.

edit: was typing while you posted Dewy

I personally think they are different castings, meaning at least 2 resin V3 castings existed (probably more), but it’s possible they are the same and the saber was modified. From a logical perspective it seems to make sense that they’d have a resin belt hanger and a separate batch of R2 sabers.

 

[scarf man]

I’m not down with the “V3” talk so I’d prefer to continue calling it the shared stunt, which is clearer, and more traditional.

 

[Dewy]

I’m not down with the “V3” talk so I’d prefer to continue calling it the shared stunt, which is clearer, and more traditional.

Isn’t the V2 also a shared stunt though? We have more conclusive proof of the V2 being shared between ANH and ROTJ.

 

[Dewy]

If we want to be consistent with SethS ‘s awesome guide book https://wannawanga.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/SWLB_March_2020.pdf

ROTJ Hero A = Metal Hero / ISYHCANL
ROTJ Hero B = V2
ROTJ Stunt A = metal V3
ROTJ Stunt B = Yuma (same as Hero A, but different configuration)
ROTJ Stunt C = resin V3/R2 saber