SirCharles77's Hasbro Millennium Falcon Conversion - COMPLETED!!!

Re: SirCharles77's Hasbro Millennium Falcon Conversion

Yeah thats fine for me. I am not going for "Studio Model" accurate for this Hasbro mod. For this one I am focused on what I "feel" looks right. So I am pulling from alot of different areas for certain things. Though overall I am aiming to make it closest to the 32" model just because that's the scale it is (approx).

But for lights I just want it to be a bad ass looking model when its on display in my office.

The image in that thread is based on the studio set and not accurate to the models.
 
Re: SirCharles77's Hasbro Millennium Falcon Conversion

Hey everyone! I have this light setup that I kinda inherited and it works great for my engine assembly. Problem is that I also wanna add in some more LED's for the headlights and running lights under the hull and I know nothing about LEDs and how to hook them up. I was wondering if anyone has any ideas how I could hook up more lights to this. Or if I just need to run a completely separate set of wiring for the rest of the lights.

To give you an idea what I am thinking...

These lights I have come with a remote. If I can wire it all up to that I would love it. This light setup allows me to change the colors of the lights which is also awesome.

Here are some pics of the setup I have. Showing them in order of the connection from the power to the light.






 
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Re: SirCharles77's Hasbro Millennium Falcon Conversion

In regards to running lights, I did notice that the TFA digital Falcon now has red running lights on the ventral hull lit at all times during flight. I think that's the first canon example of any running lights apart from the headlights, so a look at the new Falcon might be on order.
 
Re: SirCharles77's Hasbro Millennium Falcon Conversion

Hey everyone! I have this light setup that I kinda inherited and it works great for my engine assembly. Problem is that I also wanna add in some more LED's for the headlights and running lights under the hull and I know nothing about LEDs and how to hook them up. I was wondering if anyone has any ideas how I could hook up more lights to this. Or if I just need to run a completely separate set of wiring for the rest of the lights.

To give you an idea what I am thinking...

These lights I have come with a remote. If I can wire it all up to that I would love it. This light setup allows me to change the colors of the lights which is also awesome.

Here are some pics of the setup I have. Showing them in order of the connection from the power to the light.
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I have a similar lighting set and was thinking of just feeding fibre optic cable off it. Maybe glueing it to the strip and feeding it off where you need it to go?
 
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Yeah that would work, but for the running lights and headlights I want more power than I can get from the fiber optics.

I have a similar lighting set and was thinking of just feeding fibre optic cable off it. Maybe glueing it to the strip and feeding it off where you need it to go?
 
Re: SirCharles77's Hasbro Millennium Falcon Conversion

That was my first thought, too, Dimejinky.

Sir Charles, have you considered which of the desired lights would need only a simply 'on-off' function and then run those as a separate circuit? Also, the lighting 'systems' will logically serve different situations and so you'd not want everything operating at one time (such as the 'headlights' [flight] vs the 'underside illumination lights' [landed]?) Grouping the lights into 'modes' might allow for a simplified switching functionality.

One basic concept I can recall is your "circuits" can either be in parallel or in series. If you want separate control of individual circuits, then that is parallel 'wiring' which may already be a part of the switching remote's design, while series wiring is just one switch controlling an entire string. Christmas light strings are a perfect example for both: ones that the entire string fails if one 'bulb' is bad is a series circuit because the power goes through each element in succession so every light depends on the power coming through its predecessor. Strings that stay lit even with a failure because the individual bulbs each 'bridge' between continuous ground and 'hot' lines such that a failure in the 'bulb' doesn't break the lines. There are rules regarding how & what 'mixing' of parallel & series wiring you can do, but I cannot recall any specifics. Thank goodness for Google!

For example (back to the MF's lights), the various operating regimes might include:

Visual slow flight (constrained space - aka 'headlights)
Approach & Landing
Grounding/Maintenance
Visual formation flight (atmospheric)
FTL travel (basically engines & nothing else)
Space Docking / EVA

Even the cockpit lights could have at least two modes:

Powered up / Flight
Low power / Non-flight

Of course, the 'canon' movie displays may have nothing to do with actual lighting modes & everything to do with 'what looks good'.
As with most things, determine your requirements first, then buy the hardware to 'do it'.

Regards, Robert
 
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That was my first thought, too, Dimejinky.

Sir Charles, have you considered which of the desired lights would need only a simply 'on-off' function and then run those as a separate circuit? Also, the lighting 'systems' will logically serve different situations and so you'd not want everything operating at one time (such as the 'headlights' [flight] vs the 'underside illumination lights' [landed]?) Grouping the lights into 'modes' might allow for a simplified switching functionality.

One basic concept I can recall is your "circuits" can either be in parallel or in series. If you want separate control of individual circuits, then that is parallel 'wiring' which may already be a part of the switching remote's design, while series wiring is just one switch controlling an entire string. Christmas light strings are a perfect example for both: ones that the entire string fails if one 'bulb' is bad is a series circuit because the power goes through each element in succession so every light depends on the power coming through its predecessor. Strings that stay lit even with a failure because the individual bulbs each 'bridge' between continuous ground and 'hot' lines such that a failure in the 'bulb' doesn't break the lines. There are rules regarding how & what 'mixing' of parallel & series wiring you can do, but I cannot recall any specifics. Thank goodness for Google!

For example (back to the MF's lights), the various operating regimes might include:

Visual slow flight (constrained space - aka 'headlights)
Approach & Landing
Grounding/Maintenance
Visual formation flight (atmospheric)
FTL travel (basically engines & nothing else)
Space Docking / EVA

Even the cockpit lights could have at least two modes:

Powered up / Flight
Low power / Non-flight

Of course, the 'canon' movie displays may have nothing to do with actual lighting modes & everything to do with 'what looks good'.
As with most things, determine your requirements first, then buy the hardware to 'do it'.

Regards, Robert


oh man..I want them all on at once and have no clue how to do that

ah well.
 
Re: SirCharles77's Hasbro Millennium Falcon Conversion

oh man..I want them all on at once and have no clue how to do that

ah well.

DJ, look up stuff (aka 'Google' or 'DuckDuckGo.com') on parallel circuits so you can wire it all to one switch but won't loose them all if a single "lamp" stops working.

R/ Robert
 
Re: SirCharles77's Hasbro Millennium Falcon Conversion

I hope SirCharles77 doesn't mind me saying this here.....

Wow - having just received these parts I can say that they're even better in the flesh! Amazing quality & price!

Highly recommended!
 
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So going back to the images I posted with my wiring setup as it currently stands...

The 4th image shows the RGB connector that has 4 total slots on it. Those allow me to wire 4 sets of lights to this single RF sensor for remote control.

You can see in this image what the connector and cables look like. The other end of this wire is the one that connects into the strip as I showed above.
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Here's where you LED experts come in!!

Do you think it would be possible to purchase some 5mm pre-wired LEDs like these...
10x RED 5mm Pre Wired 12v Led Round Clear Lens Bulb USA | eBay
And splice them into the wire that I have pictured above so that the same RF connector would power those LEDs also?

Basically I would need 12 5mm LEDs and 1 Red Illuminator (to power the 14 red Fiber Optics I need).

Here is a diagram of what I am thinking I wanna do. Yellow are LEDs, Red are Fiber Optics.
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The 4 large ones are actually going to be 3d printed light wells with a frosted transparent base inside that the LED will sit behind. I got the idea from what I see in this pic of the TFA Falcon.
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Re: SirCharles77's Hasbro Millennium Falcon Conversion

So up to four control "channels", each with separate LED's for each of the color control circuits, wired in parallel (I believe.) I'm assuming you cannot control individual LED's on the string, right? For example, if you program for a flashing red, ALL the reds will flash together, correct? If so, then essentially, each control "channel" (aka slot) can support individual control of up to 4 different LED circuits for a total of 16 possible. So, in theory, you could wire the red LED for the fiber as one, the underside LED's as two and the forward "lamps" as a third by hooking each to one of the color controls on the one cable. Whether you could run all at the same time depends on what it can do with RGB-W at the same time...

You'll need a multi-meter to map out which four wires are being powered depending on which channel you've selected (R-G-B-W.) Make sure you know how to use the meter since you're testing power-on, you don't want to damage anything. Alternatively, make a simple tester using some clamps and an LED (two wires.)

I can see from the pix that most likely each LED is using one of the six possible current feed combinations. If we call the four wires 1-2-3-4, then you can have 1+2, 2+3, 2+4, 3+4 and 4+1 & 3+1. With four color channels and 6 current combinations, obviously things can get fancy.

Once mapped, you then will need to determine how many LED's the thing will power on a single 'color' circuit. Again, testing using a breadboard setup can help validate your wiring setup before doing anything permanent. Recommend using the same size & approx. lengths of wire so the resistance will be comparable to the final desired wiring, if possible. The existing LED strip provides some idea, of course, if you can determine the ratings.

With luck, someone may have been through this exact thing before and can give you more specific guidance about this gear, but there are a lot of variables so experimentation may be the best (and perhaps most fun!) route to take.

I know not much direct help but perhaps encouragement?

Regards, Robert
 
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Re: SirCharles77's Hasbro Millennium Falcon Conversion

Just got my set, and they are fantastic. The instructions are also very good. Can't wait to get started on em! thanks again Sir Charles!
 
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Well again its been a while since my last update. Been busy and haven't really made a ton of progress lately...honestly, I am kinda stumped. Trying to figure out what to do with the lighting and how to approach the painting steps has me kinda stuck. So I am slowly working through it.

But I have made some decisions on what I am going to do lighting wise finally! And I came up with a cool new model to help it along!

So I spent a few hours and I went through ESB and pulled reference as 1 still of EVERY shot of the Falcon in the movie! Took a bit but now I have nice reference images to go back to. And in the process I noticed the running lights (the little red ones) have a fixture covering them. As you can see here in these images I pulled.




I was curious if my printer would print them out that small? So I modeled this little guy.


Not perfect because I knew that at that size 8 holes for the light would be too many and the bars would be too small. So I went with 6 (still probably too small). Also I made it about 80% larger than it probably would be in reality. But I test printed it and here is what I ended up with.


This little guy is only 4mm in diameter! SUPER TINY!!



Not the cleanest or the sharpest model in the world under such a microscope, but overall I am pretty happy with it! It will look better lit after its been painted. Right now the plastic is too translucent so too much light bleeds through. I will post a test pic of that once I have painted a test one.

What do you think?

At some point I will try to take some better quality pics of it. My phone camera even in Macro mode isn't quite good enough to do this justice.
 
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Re: SirCharles77's Hasbro Millennium Falcon Conversion

Very cool! Although I wonder if photo etch might be a better choice for material... I can see a one piece part that includes the base (as a strip to be rolled) attached to one 'leg' of the cap 'spider, the remainder of which is folded over once the base tube is formed. You could also fabricate the fixture cap using a vacuform or 'plunge' molding buck, that would be used to hold the cap while the openings are drilled out with a micro bit. All wonderfully tedious, however!

One other method would be to simply shape the LED lens and then paint on the parts of the cover... with a needle!

R/ Robert
 
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I was going to see if maybe I could print them out on Shapeways in aluminum. I don't know what kind precision they do up there for something like that but that might make a more crisp part. Now that I have it modeled I'm probably going to upload it and see what happens.
 
Re: SirCharles77's Hasbro Millennium Falcon Conversion

How about just having 3mm LEDs stick out the hull and paint on the protecting cage?

cheers
Uwe

PS: Thanks for the pics...was watching ESB and RTJ last night as well just to do the exact same thing...spotting Falcon details...in my case right now for the little Bandai!
 
Re: SirCharles77's Hasbro Millennium Falcon Conversion

Hi Sir Charles,

I just aquired a Hasbro MF too, and have a question for you. I got all the screws out but I cannot for the life of me figure out how to remove both the right/left side docking ports and the cockpit. they seem to be locked in with a clasp or something. Is there a trick for getting these off? thanks in advance!
 
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