Re: QMx Sonic Screwdriver Thread
ALL valid questions that deserve answers...after all, we ARE your target customers.
ALL valid questions that deserve answers...after all, we ARE your target customers.
QMx & Other New Sonic Screwdrivers Thread
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Re: QMx Sonic Screwdriver Thread
I'd just like to add to that list of questions...
a) Why, as a license-holder, do you need a Robatto-made prototype to work off of, rather than a screen-used prop? and
b) You're JUST NOW starting to get crew and materials together for a product that was announced a YEAR ago??
I appreciate you being forthcoming with the update, and the fact that you acknowledge QMx's history of vaporware lends you a lot of credibility in my book, but the revelation that it's taken a year just to get reference material, without a crew or materials yet in place doesn't inspire much confidence.
I'd just like to add to that list of questions...
a) Why, as a license-holder, do you need a Robatto-made prototype to work off of, rather than a screen-used prop? and
b) You're JUST NOW starting to get crew and materials together for a product that was announced a YEAR ago??
I appreciate you being forthcoming with the update, and the fact that you acknowledge QMx's history of vaporware lends you a lot of credibility in my book, but the revelation that it's taken a year just to get reference material, without a crew or materials yet in place doesn't inspire much confidence.
greatwazoo42
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Geeze guys...
Keep in mind that business isn't a sealed environment where everything goes exactly according to plan and schedule. We've become so used to bic lighter mentality (made fast, cheap and in huge quantities) that we tend to forget that artisan products don't roll out of the station on a schedule that Mussolini would have approved of.
The have to take the originals that they have obtained, reverse engineer them from a hand worked product into parts that can be mass manufactured and be durable, contract with supplies to get the parts made and then deal with all the fun that getting the stuff made, assembled, sold and sent entails.
It isn't exactly an overnight thing.
I know the rest of you guys want your latest toy "now, now, right now, why isn't it here, gimme, you guys suck for not giving it to me right now, what do you mean I don't have mine already, I hate you, gimme" but I'm more of the mindset to let them take the time needed to do everything right.
Like the old mantra here from years ago went: if you want it now make your own.
BTW - Good coffee this morning.
Geeze guys...
Keep in mind that business isn't a sealed environment where everything goes exactly according to plan and schedule. We've become so used to bic lighter mentality (made fast, cheap and in huge quantities) that we tend to forget that artisan products don't roll out of the station on a schedule that Mussolini would have approved of.
The have to take the originals that they have obtained, reverse engineer them from a hand worked product into parts that can be mass manufactured and be durable, contract with supplies to get the parts made and then deal with all the fun that getting the stuff made, assembled, sold and sent entails.
It isn't exactly an overnight thing.
I know the rest of you guys want your latest toy "now, now, right now, why isn't it here, gimme, you guys suck for not giving it to me right now, what do you mean I don't have mine already, I hate you, gimme" but I'm more of the mindset to let them take the time needed to do everything right.
Like the old mantra here from years ago went: if you want it now make your own.
BTW - Good coffee this morning.
QMx GGD
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LOL
I appreciate all the questions, but I can't answer most of them because I simply don't have the details.
I dropped in to clarify that the sonics here at SDCC are the prototypes and that we have 4 of them and that Nick made them.
Personally, I like that we're starting this process from his masters. Because I know they'll be 100% accurate. (I also got a total grin out of watching him take his own personal 11th sonic out for people to look at here at the show. People ask to see the 11th and he just pulls one out of his pocket and says "Here, let me show you mine.")
But back to all the questions -- I'm not about to give time frames because no one wants to put out a date and then miss it. Better to be vague than to over promise and fail.
So, while I totally appreciate the enthusiasm and I know you still don't believe these things'll get made, for now I'm just going to hold off on details. Because I'd rather be honest even if it means I'm saying I don't know.
Oh and, it was so great to meet those of you that dropped by the booth during the show. Thanks for saying hi when you did ;-)
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I appreciate all the questions, but I can't answer most of them because I simply don't have the details.
I dropped in to clarify that the sonics here at SDCC are the prototypes and that we have 4 of them and that Nick made them.
Personally, I like that we're starting this process from his masters. Because I know they'll be 100% accurate. (I also got a total grin out of watching him take his own personal 11th sonic out for people to look at here at the show. People ask to see the 11th and he just pulls one out of his pocket and says "Here, let me show you mine.")
But back to all the questions -- I'm not about to give time frames because no one wants to put out a date and then miss it. Better to be vague than to over promise and fail.
So, while I totally appreciate the enthusiasm and I know you still don't believe these things'll get made, for now I'm just going to hold off on details. Because I'd rather be honest even if it means I'm saying I don't know.
Oh and, it was so great to meet those of you that dropped by the booth during the show. Thanks for saying hi when you did ;-)
phez
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Going back to start and having Nick remake the 10 Sonic was totally the way to go. The Sonic they showed last year was likely close but wrong and it now start from masters that are dead on. I can not wait to pick one of these up (well one of each of them ) Totally worth it. now, any pics of the 10 Sonic from the display?
Going back to start and having Nick remake the 10 Sonic was totally the way to go. The Sonic they showed last year was likely close but wrong and it now start from masters that are dead on. I can not wait to pick one of these up (well one of each of them
) Totally worth it. now, any pics of the 10 Sonic from the display?Re: QMx Sonic Screwdriver Thread
I don't think that is the case at all. Most of the sceptics on here have all the Ten sonics they really want and will wait to get another, and even the others. It's just that we were saying these won't get made last year, and guess what.... nothing did and no further development over that year, and here we are having deja vu again.
Do you think QMx will put there neck on the line and answer whether we will get any of the sonics made and shipped before the next SDCC? I think that's a fair question that deserves a fair answer.
I don't think that is the case at all. Most of the sceptics on here have all the Ten sonics they really want and will wait to get another, and even the others. It's just that we were saying these won't get made last year, and guess what.... nothing did and no further development over that year, and here we are having deja vu again.
Do you think QMx will put there neck on the line and answer whether we will get any of the sonics made and shipped before the next SDCC? I think that's a fair question that deserves a fair answer.
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I'm completeley baffled as to how QMX continues to exist. They must be haemorrhaging money on all these licences and vapourware products, with virtually no returns.
Are they owned by a rich kid burning money while playing at running a business or something?
I'm completeley baffled as to how QMX continues to exist. They must be haemorrhaging money on all these licences and vapourware products, with virtually no returns.
Are they owned by a rich kid burning money while playing at running a business or something?
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I had the same thoughts myself!
Maybe that's why it's taking so long for the sonics....
I'm still holding my breath on these and trust that Qmx will come through. Patience is running thin though so I hope some substantial news comes out soon. Too bad the supposed "information" at comic con we were promised was simply just a look at some prototypes again....
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I had the same thoughts myself!
Maybe that's why it's taking so long for the sonics....
I'm still holding my breath on these and trust that Qmx will come through. Patience is running thin though so I hope some substantial news comes out soon. Too bad the supposed "information" at comic con we were promised was simply just a look at some prototypes again....
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I did say in this thread that if we were offered anything more than another prototype sample then I would offer an apology. As we have only been offered something even less than that in the form of a proto-prototype, I guess I won't be. I bet CT is pretty happy right now. Everything he said has come true.
Amazing the history of the Ten sonic replica. The dramas that have unfolded over that daft little flashlight is unreal. I bet the Eleventh sonic will be worse. That sucker is going to cost a fortune to produce.
I did say in this thread that if we were offered anything more than another prototype sample then I would offer an apology. As we have only been offered something even less than that in the form of a proto-prototype, I guess I won't be. I bet CT is pretty happy right now. Everything he said has come true.
Amazing the history of the Ten sonic replica. The dramas that have unfolded over that daft little flashlight is unreal. I bet the Eleventh sonic will be worse. That sucker is going to cost a fortune to produce.
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But what is the status of CT's 11th sonic?? We've heard just as much from him as we have Qmx...
But what is the status of CT's 11th sonic?? We've heard just as much from him as we have Qmx...
greatwazoo42
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HOW DARE YOU QUESTION CT!?! His Horde shall beat you down and take your lunch money for that!!!lol:lol
Man, I remember when collecting was fun.
HOW DARE YOU QUESTION CT!?! His Horde shall beat you down and take your lunch money for that!!!
lol:lolMan, I remember when collecting was fun.
greatwazoo42
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(The above, BTW, is a joke. Take it as such or I will take your lunch money.)
(The above, BTW, is a joke. Take it as such or I will take your lunch money.)
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CT has the proper manufacturing processes in place (as evidenced by his continued production of 9/10 sonics) and has been sourcing and acquiring materials for at least several months (he has been posting teaser images of Corian and Faux Jade, for example) and has been studying a screen-used 11 Sonic for at least a few months as well. Where does that put his ETA? I have no idea. But I'm betting it's somewhere ahead of "Now that we have something to measure, we're going to start calling people and getting stuff to make some of these!"
CT has the proper manufacturing processes in place (as evidenced by his continued production of 9/10 sonics) and has been sourcing and acquiring materials for at least several months (he has been posting teaser images of Corian and Faux Jade, for example) and has been studying a screen-used 11 Sonic for at least a few months as well. Where does that put his ETA? I have no idea. But I'm betting it's somewhere ahead of "Now that we have something to measure, we're going to start calling people and getting stuff to make some of these!"
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OK, I just read CTs latest blog entry. I have to agree with everything he has said, and also the WAY he said it. Sure, he's got the attitude of Chef Ramsey but he's not pulling any punches and what he had to say, including stating production facts are very revealing.
From what I gather, CT has in his possession a genuine 11th sonic which he is using to make his own - and that he has already taken the time to do the R&D to determine that Qmx will be unable to reproduce this item at the quality fans expect for a price people can afford - and worse yet, a price that would even allow a factor to take the job in the first place!
That's a scary thought - that the prop is so complex and detailed, that factories would keep away from the project all together unless they are paid an extreme amount of money PER unit!
This is why CTs operation is more suited for this type of product. He individually hand-crafts the product for the collector. It is not mass-produced on a production line.
I understand this concept as my father and I offer hand-crafted copies of the Dexter trophy box that is being used on the show. A fully licensed Factory made version would NOT stand up to the quality of what we offer and I believe that whenever CT starts rolling on his 11th sonic, there will be no mistaking the quality.
I would really like to hear more about CTs 11th as it now becomes very clear, after seeing the "information" Qmx had at SDCC and reading CTs latest blog entry - that a Qmx replica may just be a pipe dream.
OK, I just read CTs latest blog entry. I have to agree with everything he has said, and also the WAY he said it. Sure, he's got the attitude of Chef Ramsey but he's not pulling any punches and what he had to say, including stating production facts are very revealing.
From what I gather, CT has in his possession a genuine 11th sonic which he is using to make his own - and that he has already taken the time to do the R&D to determine that Qmx will be unable to reproduce this item at the quality fans expect for a price people can afford - and worse yet, a price that would even allow a factor to take the job in the first place!
That's a scary thought - that the prop is so complex and detailed, that factories would keep away from the project all together unless they are paid an extreme amount of money PER unit!
This is why CTs operation is more suited for this type of product. He individually hand-crafts the product for the collector. It is not mass-produced on a production line.
I understand this concept as my father and I offer hand-crafted copies of the Dexter trophy box that is being used on the show. A fully licensed Factory made version would NOT stand up to the quality of what we offer and I believe that whenever CT starts rolling on his 11th sonic, there will be no mistaking the quality.
I would really like to hear more about CTs 11th as it now becomes very clear, after seeing the "information" Qmx had at SDCC and reading CTs latest blog entry - that a Qmx replica may just be a pipe dream.
sebmodio
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I'm still going to hold out for the QMx sonic. I understand they've got a long way to go, but I'm in no rush. The fact that Nick's working with them and QMx GGD being as open as she can with responses are all pluses in my book.
As for CT's version, he may have the superior everything, but he doesn't seem to have the best attitude. I got into this hobby because it seemed fun and enjoyable. It's not life or death, so I'll gladly wait for the company with the friendly attitude.
In the meantime, I'm good with my CO sonics and maybe I'll take a crack at it myself!
I'm still going to hold out for the QMx sonic. I understand they've got a long way to go, but I'm in no rush. The fact that Nick's working with them and QMx GGD being as open as she can with responses are all pluses in my book.
As for CT's version, he may have the superior everything, but he doesn't seem to have the best attitude. I got into this hobby because it seemed fun and enjoyable. It's not life or death, so I'll gladly wait for the company with the friendly attitude.
In the meantime, I'm good with my CO sonics and maybe I'll take a crack at it myself!
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QMx GGD
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The Tesla's, Farnsworths and Enterprise refit are all here at SDCC with presale dates announced. As are several maquettes, both for sale and prototypes. The BSG steins will be available this fall and a number of other items will be as well.
I'm not trying to be rude, but how many products does QMX need to release before the "vaporware" label is no longer valid?
The Sonics have taken more time than you'd like, but we never announced a sale date for it and didn't deliver. We didn't take money for a product we didn't make. We showed off a prototype and announced an intention to make it.
The intention is still there. But we don't want to make it until we know it'll be the best we can make it. That isn't a lie, it isn't a tease. We didn't make a promise and then break it.
The people here, I would think, would know better than most people how much time, effort and energy go into making a prop that can stand up to scrutiny.
But the vaporware comments aren't valid. Unless it's only because we haven't made the one item you want us to make more than any other.
There's a lot of product for sale on the site and at the show. If you were here, you'd be impressed. I know anyone who's been by has been impressed for sure.
The Tesla's, Farnsworths and Enterprise refit are all here at SDCC with presale dates announced. As are several maquettes, both for sale and prototypes. The BSG steins will be available this fall and a number of other items will be as well.
I'm not trying to be rude, but how many products does QMX need to release before the "vaporware" label is no longer valid?
The Sonics have taken more time than you'd like, but we never announced a sale date for it and didn't deliver. We didn't take money for a product we didn't make. We showed off a prototype and announced an intention to make it.
The intention is still there. But we don't want to make it until we know it'll be the best we can make it. That isn't a lie, it isn't a tease. We didn't make a promise and then break it.
The people here, I would think, would know better than most people how much time, effort and energy go into making a prop that can stand up to scrutiny.
But the vaporware comments aren't valid. Unless it's only because we haven't made the one item you want us to make more than any other.
There's a lot of product for sale on the site and at the show. If you were here, you'd be impressed. I know anyone who's been by has been impressed for sure.
phez
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Nick handles the props for the show. There are 4 Sonics, did he mail CT one to undermine the R & D he get paid to do for QMXlol:lol. Let me guess, there is some convoluted story about the legendary 5th Sonic that snuck out the back door of the BBC but there can be no photos to protect the guilty :lol. lollol
Reallylol:lol, no factory will take this on??? Now, a price people can afford, it is a complex piece and is going to be expensive. Is there a factor that being hand made one at a time adds to a prop, that is a big yes. Is that going to show up in any mass produced piece, not if you are having the parts CNC'd they are going to be almost dead on consistent and I am betting the real props are not.
As far as R&D goes, I would definitely prefer the master to be made from the guy who made them for the show compared to anyone (not poking at CT because he has done a good job of making the 10 Sonic from photos) reverse engineering from photos. Read Nicks Ray Gun thread, that part on the tip of the sonic was a hand machined master that was molded and cast in a custom mixed color. Do want your parts made from the original masters using the known color mix or something that is reverse engineered and guessed at from photos? I am just saying.
Nick handles the props for the show. There are 4 Sonics, did he mail CT one to undermine the R & D he get paid to do for QMX
lol:lol. Let me guess, there is some convoluted story about the legendary 5th Sonic that snuck out the back door of the BBC but there can be no photos to protect the guilty :lol. lollolReally
lol:lol, no factory will take this on??? Now, a price people can afford, it is a complex piece and is going to be expensive. Is there a factor that being hand made one at a time adds to a prop, that is a big yes. Is that going to show up in any mass produced piece, not if you are having the parts CNC'd they are going to be almost dead on consistent and I am betting the real props are not. As far as R&D goes, I would definitely prefer the master to be made from the guy who made them for the show compared to anyone (not poking at CT because he has done a good job of making the 10 Sonic from photos) reverse engineering from photos. Read Nicks Ray Gun thread, that part on the tip of the sonic was a hand machined master that was molded and cast in a custom mixed color. Do want your parts made from the original masters using the known color mix or something that is reverse engineered and guessed at from photos? I am just saying.
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Re: QMx Sonic Screwdriver Thread
Well to be fair, this is the "OMx Sonic Screwdriver Thread"...
Well to be fair, this is the "OMx Sonic Screwdriver Thread"...
greatwazoo42
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Actually; QMx did make a promise. Qmx promised to take an original and make the damned best replicas they can from it and do it the right way. They just didn't promise to do it right away...or in 48 hours...or in a year. There was no promised date. Just a promise to try and make a good product.
At least I think that's what it was.
Actually; QMx did make a promise. Qmx promised to take an original and make the damned best replicas they can from it and do it the right way. They just didn't promise to do it right away...or in 48 hours...or in a year. There was no promised date. Just a promise to try and make a good product.
At least I think that's what it was.
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