QMx & Other New Sonic Screwdrivers Thread

[Michael Bergeron]

Re: QMx Sonic Screwdriver Thread

You guys are so gullible (one again no proof of this I would guess) lollol
Nick handles the props for the show. There are 4 Sonics, did he mail CT one to undermine the R & D he get paid to do for QMX lol:lol. Let me guess, there is some convoluted story about the legendary 5th Sonic that snuck out the back door of the BBC but there can be no photos to protect the guilty :lol

Say what you want about CT but when it comes to sonics he has a proven track record. He may have a history of not being very nice to people he disagrees with (Lord do I know) but he also has a history of being right, so I believe it when he says he's got one.

 

[phez]

Re: QMx Sonic Screwdriver Thread

Say what you want about CT but when it comes to sonics he has a proven track record. He may have a history of not being very nice to people he disagrees with (Lord do I know) but he also has a history of being right, so I believe it when he says he's got one.

So is one of the four screen used ones currently missing and no one noticed????? That's all I am saying here. The property masters are pretty militant in keeping track of the props used in productions, I have heard the made with access to the original story many times across a lot of different movie and TV props and unless there is proof, it is what it is. You can reverse engineer something and get it very close from photos.

Unfortunately the result is that when something that is 100% known to be made with proven access to an original comes out it is usually at odds with the stuff that is reverse engineered from photos. I can see the threads already after the QMX comes out and it does not match the CT

We are going to be having a big tussle over how two pieces made with access to the original screen used pieces do match and the answer is going to be obvious.

 

[jedibugs]

So is one of the four screen used ones currently missing and no one noticed????? That's all I am saying here. The property masters are pretty militant in keeping track of the props used in productions, I have heard the made with access to the original story many times across a lot of different movie and TV props and unless there is proof, it is what it is.

He's got one. I don't know how, but I assure you, he does.

 

[phez]

Re: QMx Sonic Screwdriver Thread

He's got one. I don't know how, but I assure you, he does.

Oh, well that changes everything lol:lol. Any photos of it??? Any proof it is real???

 

[JiminSTLouis]

Re: QMx Sonic Screwdriver Thread

SDCC 2011: Quantum Mechanix Collectibles Booth Tour - Comic Vine

 

[jedibugs]

Oh, well that changes everything lol:lol. Any photos of it??? Any proof it is real???

I have no horse in this race. CT's success or failure has no effect on me personally. I have no reason to lie or otherwise bolster CT's claims. In the RPF tradition of sharing prop knowledge, I am sharing with you my knowledge that CT does, 100%, have an original 11 sonic.
This is the first time in my time at the RPF that someone has presumed me to be a liar. And, if I might remind you, people doubted that CT had access to a 9 sonic, and look how that turned out.

 

[Yellowjacket]

Re: QMx Sonic Screwdriver Thread

SDCC 2011: Quantum Mechanix Collectibles Booth Tour - Comic Vine

"You could buy a car with that."

 

[phez]

Re: QMx Sonic Screwdriver Thread

I have no horse in this race. CT's success or failure has no effect on me personally. I have no reason to lie or otherwise bolster CT's claims. In the RPF tradition of sharing prop knowledge, I am sharing with you my knowledge that CT does, 100%, have an original 11 sonic.
This is the first time in my time at the RPF that someone has presumed me to be a liar. And, if I might remind you, people doubted that CT had access to a 9 sonic, and look how that turned out.

I have no dog in the race either (I am not claiming you are a liar and 100% believe that you think he has one), the rpf has a long history of calling bull**** on claims that are not proven with any form of evidence. You either simply belive them or not. I simply do not believe them without proof. It serves to do nothing but pollute the credible (backed up with proof) information pool and ends up with garbage information mixed in with credible information.

The facts are that either the four originals (screen used props) are siting in the prop department or they are not. If one was stolen, fine maybe it made its way to CT. The facts here are, there is no (none whatsoever) proof that one is missing much less a photo of an origenal piece.

And, if I might remind you, people doubted that CT had access to a 9 sonic, and look how that turned out.

I am one of them, case and point, that one was also claimed to have been made with access to the original prop. It is missing details that should be there if it was a direct copy of an original.

 

[jedibugs]

Unfortunately the result is that when something that is 100% known to be made with proven access to an original comes out it is usually at odds with the stuff that is reverse engineered from photos. I can see the threads already after the QMX comes out and it does not match the CT

A couple things:
First, a correction. CT has informed me that he no longer has the sonic. But I know for a fact that he DID.
Second, the thing you said above about 100% proven access to the original prop is utter BS. Yes, MFX had access. No, that didn't stop them from making a sonic with a dozen inaccuracies, not the least of which was the COLOR. Now, you insinuate that theirs is the accurate one while CT's was different because he used photo reference rather than the actual prop? If you still believe that at this point, I can't help you. I guess that theory makes sense, being that CT's sonic looks like every picture I've ever seen of it, whereas the MFX does not.

 

[Yellowjacket]

Re: QMx Sonic Screwdriver Thread

Mmm...

 

[Birdie]

Re: QMx Sonic Screwdriver Thread

But the vaporware comments aren't valid. Unless it's only because we haven't made the one item you want us to make more than any other

Actually, unless you are a Warehouse 13 fan (I'm not) or scale ship fan (nope) or a collector of EU paper props (no) and novelty junk (ahem) that leaves me a pretty wide wishlist.

A metal Mal pistol, that'd be nice. Or maybe something from BSG that isn't a dogtag or a beer-mug. Ooh, how about a working Zat Gun...ah.

Still I heard the stunt phaser was nice. No moving parts, you say? :angel

But seriously, getting a few out of house guys in to make ship models and a couple of WH13 props for you doesn't make you a viable prop replica company. The DW situation is farcical, and it follows years of similarly risible nonsense from the previous QMX jokers.

The sonics are, by definition, vaporware. They don't exist in any way save some nice NR single builds. If I bought one of CT's sonics, took a butane torch to the head and called it a prototype Matt Smith 11th Hour sonic, does that make it so?

 

[phez]

Re: QMx Sonic Screwdriver Thread

First, a correction. CT has informed me that he no longer has the sonic. But I know for a fact that he DID.

Ahhhhh I understand now, at one time one was missing but it has now been returned. I am going to shoot the BBC an email and see if I can borrow one quick once the season is over, I need a few measurements (I will even cover shipping for them).

Yellowjacket

Really lol:lol
I am the one who is eating humble pie here.

But seriously, getting a few out of house guys in to make ship models and a couple of WH13 props for you doesn't make you a viable prop replica company. The DW situation is farcical, and it follows years of similarly risible nonsense from the previous QMX jokers.

You are totally right Birdie, but I think they are definitely getting the best start they possibly could having Nick make (and remake the 10 Sonic) the prototypes and I am hoping the best for them on the project.

 

[jedibugs]

Ahhhhh I understand now, at one time one was missing but it has now been returned. I am going to shoot the BBC an email and see if I can borrow one quick once the season is over, I need a few measurements (I will even cover shipping for them).

Whatever, guy. I'm not taking the guy's word as gospel. I'm not saying that I know for a fact that he had the prop because he SAID SO. it's been proven to me. So I'm saying: this guy had screen-used reference. For sure. But I'm not offering proof, I'm only offering my word that I've been given proof. Proof that I was asked not to distribute. So if my word doesn't convince you; oh well. You don't know me from Adam. Why should you believe me? It's not worth my time and energy to argue with you. But I will gleefully enjoy my Sonic while you're waiting on an announcement from QMx.

 

[GeneralFROSTY]

Re: QMx Sonic Screwdriver Thread

Oh, well that changes everything lol:lol. Any photos of it??? Any proof it is real???

Yet another valid question.
If CT claims to have a real one on hand and someone directly related to the production of the show says this is BS - I'd like to know the truth behind this because I do see a problem if/when Qmx releases a sonic and it looks different than what CT eventually puts out.

 

[jedibugs]

Yet another valid question.
If CT claims to have a real one on hand and someone directly related to the production of the show says this is BS - I'd like to know the truth behind this because I do see a problem if/when Qmx releases a sonic and it looks different than what CT eventually puts out.

It'll be just like with the 10... We'll all look at his vs. the licensed and compare them to stills and public reference (EG: DW exhibit photos, DK books, etc) and decide which one is correct and which one isn't.
Though, to be fair, I don't really see why they should look any different. I think that once QMx manages to get theirs out, it should be pretty damn accurate. After all, they at least have more prop-making experience than MFX, which is primarily a creature-effects shop.
I just don't think theirs will be out until some time after CT because he's got such a head start.
Also: I don't remember anyone involved in the production denying the possibility of CT having gotten ahold of one. I assume you mean Rubbertoe, but I must have missed that post amongst the various threads where this prop is discussed.

 

[franz bolo]

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I saw 4 of the sonics from qmx yesterday.

The guy who made them for the show was there and he made the originals. Got to play around with them too.

Matt's flips open with a wrist flick.

FB

 

[GeneralFROSTY]

Re: QMx Sonic Screwdriver Thread

phez more or less stated that no 11th sonic made it into private hands. This could be a whole other can of worms to open, in any case I would just like to see this prop made available and to the highest standards possible - weather that be from CT or Qmx.

 

[phez]

Re: QMx Sonic Screwdriver Thread

phez more or less stated that no 11th sonic made it into private hands. This could be a whole other can of worms to open, in any case I would just like to see this prop made available and to the highest standards possible - weather that be from CT or Qmx.

I have no special proof if it did or did not (and am making no claim to know for sure). I have been on the set of a production (not DrWho) before and the props are taken out of storage right before a scene and taken back from the actors right after the scenes. The property masters are very careful to keep track of the props at all times. For one of the primary hero props to disappear for a while and then come back would be very unlikely unless the BBC operates way differently than other studios.

Just apply the common sense test to this and ask yourself, there are four Sonics sitting side by side in the same box. Who in there right mind would steal one and send it to China to someone who is making unlicensed replicas (no doubt whatsoever a career ending move) and for what. Now add to that the fact that there is never any photos (for that mater any proof whatsoever) that any of this ever happened and just do the math.

If "look at the product" cuts it for you, great. That proves absolutely nothing of hands on access to the SU prop. People on this forum have been making much more complicated stuff from photo reference for years so using the argument that you had to have access to a screen used piece to make the replica (especially something like a sonic screwdriver, look at the Freeborn Yoda thread) just does not cut it.

What QMX and EFX are doing with molding original stuff and getting the actual prop makers to do there prototypes is exactly what we have been asking for and is a game changer in this hobby and I applaud them for it. They even use some of our own talent from here on the RPF sometimes, also something I think is very in tune with what we prop fanatics want. Doing it right might take a while but why smash them for it at every opportunity.

 

[phez]

Re: QMx Sonic Screwdriver Thread

Double post

 

[Asp9mm]

Re: QMx Sonic Screwdriver Thread

Those four sonics in the box were not the only Eleventh Doc sonics made. There are quite a few about (on display at the exhib (2) and with Smith himself). I know full well that inbetween production, access to the storage facilities is possible to employees. A few of us also know or suspect that displayed props have been swapped by nefarious individuals and replaced with replicas.

I'm pretty neutral now in the CT/MFX/QMX war, but I can confirm that CT has had access to quite a few costumes and props. They are no longer in his possession, but he certainly had them. Of that fact I am 100% certain. I'd also like to point out the fact that CT has never lied about his access to props, and he states openly that he never had the Tennant sonic in his hands before production started, and he also started fabricating the Eleventh sonic long before he had access to the original. As a testament to Ct's work, I have had a couple of the Chameleon Arch fobs in my hands on many occasions, and considering CT only got the details from screen caps and not the actual prop, it is amazingly 96-98% accurate. So whether he did have the sonic in his hands is a moot point anyway. But... he did, so I expect something special and have higher expectations with his, than I do of QMx's if it ever happens. On that score QMx wins out :-D