Lets talk all things Star Wars

[ThreadSketch]

Heh, since this weekend is May the Fourth [Be With You], what do y'all ascribe to for the following days - Revenge of the Fifth or Sixth? (I figure Sixth since it's closer to Sith but...)

Unless the Dark Side just gets two days in a row.

For the logos, if we're strictly talking fonts - I think I like ROTJ's sleek look the most.




I still prefer to think the subtitles of the ST says "The Force awakens the last Jedi from his nap."

 

[Mara Jade's Father]

It seems hard to claim the 5th since it is also Cinco De Mayo.

 

[Treadwell]

What's everyone's favorite logo?

 

[Psab keel]

I personally never really cared for the Prequel styled fonts. I much prefer the sequel trilogy fonts even if I don't care for the movies. The originals are just straight up iconic.

 

[BipeFlyer]

I like the original best. I really like this one too.

 

[Treadwell]

and there's these

 

[sbaxter]

I liked the SEs overall, but I agree with some things mentioned. I hated adding a yell as Luke falls in ESB, but I *think* they did remove it on a later release.

Yeah -- it's gone in the Blu-ray release. It didn't really bother me very much, but I don't miss it being gone either. There were only two changes they made that really bug me in any of the SE releases. The Han vs. Greedo scene was the worst because it just makes it seem that Han survived it only due to luck. Even more than that, I didn't think the problem it was supposed to solve was a real thing. Han doesn't fry poor Greedo just for kicks; he did it because he knew Greedo would kill him otherwise. It was self-defense, when you boil it down. It never made me think that Han enters the story as a man who just blasts anyone who annoys him. The other was the Han/Jabba scene. They have improved the CG Jabba, but that was never really the part that bothered me. It was just that the reason the scene with Greedo was shot was because the scene with Jabba wasn't going to work originally, and the Greedo scene was put in its place so convey the same story points, so including both scenes makes one of them redundant -- that is my problem with it.

SSB

 

[Mara Jade's Father]

Yeah -- it's gone in the Blu-ray release. It didn't really bother me very much, but I don't miss it being gone either. There were only two changes they made that really bug me in any of the SE releases. The Han vs. Greedo scene was the worst because it just makes it seem that Han survived it only due to luck. Even more than that, I didn't think the problem it was supposed to solve was a real thing. Han doesn't fry poor Greedo just for kicks; he did it because he knew Greedo would kill him otherwise. It was self-defense, when you boil it down. It never made me think that Han enters the story as a man who just blasts anyone who annoys him. The other was the Han/Jabba scene. They have improved the CG Jabba, but that was never really the part that bothered me. It was just that the reason the scene with Greedo was shot was because the scene with Jabba wasn't going to work originally, and the Greedo scene was put in its place so convey the same story points, so including both scenes makes one of them redundant -- that is my problem with it.

SSB

I have this little scene in my head. Greedo is bragging to another henchman that he is going to confront Solo and no matter what, he will kill him. But what he doesn't know is that Han overhears him and while Greedo is distracted, Han is able to steal Greedo's blaster and wedge the barrel agains something and bends it so it is warped to the right. He carefully replaces the blaster and takes off. Later when confronted, he can see the bent blaster barrel and notes it will harmlessly fire to his left side. But he will need to fire quickly in return before Greedo can correct for a second shot.

That's the only way I can resolve that scene. But I am like you, I don't think there was a need to change that scene. His life was in danger and firing first was the correct course. I've said it before that I prefer the SE. Not only that, I have a list of more changes I think they should make. My only objection is the Solo/Greedo scene.

 

[Inquisitor Peregrinus]

sbaxter, exactly -- if the Anchorhead scene was cut for narrative and pacing reasons, so, too, should the Jabba scene. It interrupts the throughline of the plot, and the progress forward stops dead for a few minutes of unneeded exposition.

 

[sbaxter]

I came across this picture this morning.
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It's always fun to look back and see a franchises logos. You get a sense of how it's evolved. There's been a lot of them, when you add the Special Editions, foreign releases, and different toy packaging.

What's everyone's favorite logo? I think I'm partial to the Prequel logos. When I was kid I can remember seeing them all over the place, and on everything you could possible imagine. It's amazing to think how much the Prequels affected me, even though I wouldn't get to see the films until years after they were all released.

I kind of like them all; I'm a graphic artist, so I do pay attention to such things.

One thing that really pleases me is they haven't (in any substantive way) changed the look and feel of the onscreen logo and the opening crawl in the actual saga films. I really like that consistency. It really bugged me in the James Bond films when they started messing around with the gun barrel opening in Casino Royale and the subsequent films just because it broke with decades of consistent tradition. It had evolved over the years, from the different poses Bond took to the shifting reflections on the metal beginning in Goldeneye, but the basics were always there. They finally put it back where it belongs for Spectre, but they made it faster-paced and therefore shorter for no discernible reason. I know things in films are, in general, faster-paced these days, and opening sequences for most TV series (that aren't The Orville, which is a shot for shot homage to Star Trek Voyager's opening) are typically much shorter these days (compare the original Magnum, PI opening credits to those in the Magnum PI reboot; they got the music more or less right, but it is over way too soon now), but a movie doesn't have the same concerns. What, did they think they needed to get through it three seconds sooner because people in the theater would complain, or get up and walk into another movie because of the scene dragging on too long? I'm glad it is back, but the damage is kinda done. There is now that stretch of movies that don't start the way all the others do. Also, they've now established a precedent of messing with it, so it probably would make it easier for someone to do it in another film and wreck it some more.

Qapla'

SSB

 

[sbaxter]

Best logo is just plain ol' Star Wars.

I do refer to the 1977 film in conversation as A New Hope, and in forum posts usually as ANH, but only so that everyone knows I'm talking about that specific film and not the franchise as a whole.

Hell, I remember being in line in 1980 hearing people ask for tickets to Star Wars 2.

I also remember people being momentarily confused in the initial showings of ESB when just the Star Wars logo zoomed back at the beginning; until the crawl began, some actually thought the theater had goofed and was running the previous film!

SSB

 

[sbaxter]

Rather than having the trilogy take place during the clone wars they had to create a TV series to delve into it and develop Anakin further as a character. People say all the time how Anakin is so much more relatable in the show. Isn't that a flaw in that the movies couldn't accomplish this?

I would say that it is more of a drawback to movies in general, rather than to Star Wars films specifically. Episodic TV can do so much more subtle work in regard to character development across six or seven seasons than a movie, even three movies, could ever hope to accomplish.

SSB

 

[sbaxter]

If we knew how or why Luke thought it was best to kill Ben vs. trying to turn him back then I might have bought it and I don't for one second think that Luke looking into his mind and seeing one possible future was enough to have him consider murder.

I would agree, except that I don't really think Luke did "consider murder" in any conscious way. What we saw was a momentary, instinctive reaction to what he saw, much like a typical viewer's reaction to a well-done unexpected "jump scare." I know it wasn't quite that brief, but I think the point still stands.

My very best friend in the world, whom I would literally trust with my life, once came within an inch of slugging me when I awakened him while he was sleeping on my couch. Over the 25-plus years since I have known him, he and I have never had a disagreement that came anywhere close to blows, nor even to an angry verbal clash. But that day, for just a moment, I thought he was really going to punch me. Not only did I have no earthly idea he might do that, if I had not been there myself but heard the story from someone else, I might very well think it was completely out of character for him and doubt the truth of the story.

SSB

 

[Halliwax]

Heh, since this weekend is May the Fourth [Be With You], what do y'all ascribe to for the following days - Revenge of the Fifth or Sixth? (I figure Sixth since it's closer to Sith but...)

Unless the Dark Side just gets two days in a row.

For the logos, if we're strictly talking fonts - I think I like ROTJ's sleek look the most.




I still prefer to think the subtitles of the ST says "The Force awakens the last Jedi from his nap."

I refer to May 5th as the day I lost my friend Louis... 3 years now. Miss ya buddy...

 

[Halliwax]

I like the original best. I really like this one too. View attachment 1015008

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Though this is my favorite logo out of them all... can anyone tell why?!

 

[Psab keel]

I would agree, except that I don't really think Luke did "consider murder" in any conscious way. What we saw was a momentary, instinctive reaction to what he saw, much like a typical viewer's reaction to a well-done unexpected "jump scare." I know it wasn't quite that brief, but I think the point still stands.

My very best friend in the world, whom I would literally trust with my life, once came within an inch of slugging me when I awakened him while he was sleeping on my couch. Over the 25-plus years since I have known him, he and I have never had a disagreement that came anywhere close to blows, nor even to an angry verbal clash. But that day, for just a moment, I thought he was really going to punch me. Not only did I have no earthly idea he might do that, if I had not been there myself but heard the story from someone else, I might very well think it was completely out of character for him and doubt the truth of the story.

SSB

Either you see it or you don't. I've stated my views on the movie on multiple occasions. I'm glad you like the movie. I hated it. But to each their own.

 

[BipeFlyer]

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Though this is my favorite logo out of them all... can anyone tell why?!
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I like that one too. I still have my Return of the Jedi motion picture soundtrack cassette tucked away with some of my other Star Wars collectibles from my youth.

 

[Bigdaddy]

I would agree, except that I don't really think Luke did "consider murder" in any conscious way. What we saw was a momentary, instinctive reaction to what he saw, much like a typical viewer's reaction to a well-done unexpected "jump scare." I know it wasn't quite that brief, but I think the point still stands.

My very best friend in the world, whom I would literally trust with my life, once came within an inch of slugging me when I awakened him while he was sleeping on my couch. Over the 25-plus years since I have known him, he and I have never had a disagreement that came anywhere close to blows, nor even to an angry verbal clash. But that day, for just a moment, I thought he was really going to punch me. Not only did I have no earthly idea he might do that, if I had not been there myself but heard the story from someone else, I might very well think it was completely out of character for him and doubt the truth of the story.

SSB

In the analogy you're using you are in Luke's position and your friend is in Ben's. So it doesn't really apply. In TLJ Luke wasn't startled from a sound sleep thinking he was being attacked. It certainly looked to me like he was wide awake and seriously considering killing his sleeping nephew.

 

[ThreadSketch]

I refer to May 5th as the day I lost my friend Louis... 3 years now. Miss ya buddy...

Oh no, I has a sad now. I'm sorry.

 

[Sluis Van Shipyards]

I do refer to the 1977 film in conversation as A New Hope, and in forum posts usually as ANH, but only so that everyone knows I'm talking about that specific film and not the franchise as a whole.
I also remember people being momentarily confused in the initial showings of ESB when just the Star Wars logo zoomed back at the beginning; until the crawl began, some actually thought the theater had goofed and was running the previous film!

SSB

I remember back in like 93 when I was into SW again, I found a BBS with a SW forum. I think it was like fido net or something. I had to ask what movie ANH was because I thought that maybe I somehow missed one. I only ever remembered the first movie as Star Wars.