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When rumors circled around Skywalker returning that’s what I figured they would do.
Since they did that with leia in the past
I figured it would be the adventures of him and lor San tekka traveling the galaxy looking for Jedi stuff
His cloak is off while aboard the Falcon as well.
What am I missing?
How Grogu was obsessed with the knob on the Razor Crest
LOL gotcha!
I think Fawnie's gonna take a stab at it.... Stay tuned
oh you better keep us posted!!!I think Fawnie's gonna take a stab at it.... Stay tuned
Luke is my favorite SW character. I have zero interest, now, in canon post ROTJ Luke Skywalker. We already know he's going to be an ***hat that doesn't get anything done. It's a bummer. EU Luke wasn't the best, but I guess that's my post ROTJ Luke now.
I loved thrawn, and dark empire luke..
Luke's costume in ROTJ is my absolute favorite Star Wars costume, ever. It's perfect in my opinion. I find his costume designs in Mando and Mando 2.0 (Fett) to be frankly, uninspired. To me they look like a fan film cosplay where a couple of teenagers threw whatever they had together to approximate his ROTJ look and the end result is meh. As much as I loathe the ST, I actually liked his costumes in those, even his hermit rags were a striking mix of materials and shapes that showed some variety to the Jedi look. Those costumes took the monk or samurai elements and played with them in interesting ways.
Generally speaking though one major gripe I have with the Star Wars costumes since the Prequels, despite how many cool looks there are there are SO FEW costume changes anymore per character and that drives me nuts. The exception being Padme in TPM who changed her ensemble to some ornate ceremonial garb for each scene and for no logical reason.
At least in the OT they changed their outfits to suit their environment/ scenario. If they were in disguise they wore the Stormtrooper armor. When they flew ships they wore flight suits. When they were in the snow they wore parkas and snowsuits. In the forest? Let's wear camo to blend in. It lent an athenticity to the plot where they would naturally wear what suited the story rather than have characters wear the same outfit the entire story, even if it was totally impractical. At least this, to me, would help sell the story better for the lead characters because we follow them closest. The rest of the cast isn't as important.
Generally speaking though one major gripe I have with the Star Wars costumes since the Prequels, despite how many cool looks there are there are SO FEW costume changes anymore per character and that drives me nuts. The exception being Padme in TPM who changed her ensemble to some ornate ceremonial garb for each scene and for no logical reason.
At least in the OT they changed their outfits to suit their environment/ scenario. If they were in disguise they wore the Stormtrooper armor. When they flew ships they wore flight suits. When they were in the snow they wore parkas and snowsuits. In the forest? Let's wear camo to blend in. It lent an athenticity to the plot where they would naturally wear what suited the story rather than have characters wear the same outfit the entire story, even if it was totally impractical. At least this, to me, would help sell the story better for the lead characters because we follow them closest. The rest of the cast isn't as important.
Heck, even Stormtroopers changed their clothes to fit the occasion.
It justified making variations on the design. Different troops with different armor to suit the needs of combat or environment. Even throughout history armor evolved through necessity. I know it's fiction and all, but again it sold the idea that a character would change their clothes to fit the occassion and who better to do that than the leads?
You like it with our with out the vest. I always liked that vest
I only hate that they shortened it to facilitate stunt work. It was originally supposed to be as long as Obi-Wan's in ANH. Which is the length I'm making mine. Black foundation layers (not an exact match for the clothes Luke has on, but they don't need to be), off-black sleeveless quasi-kimono and sash, dark brown cloak. It always struck me -- especially after George's "the black is more Jedi-like" comment to Mark in the documentary -- that if Luke was presenting himself to Jabba as a Jedi Knight, and wanted Jabba to recognize him as a Jedi Knight, he'd probably show up dressed in the garb of a Jedi Knight.
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I frankly don't think the costumes change much less now than they ever have.
Many will disagree with me but...as for stormtroopers, I admit the endless variations have always kinda bothered me. I personally feel like stormtroopers as seen in ANH were originally conceived as elite universal soldiers, outfitted to be able to fight anywhere, even in the vacuum of space and ranked above standard Imperial soldiers. Sure there were accessories that could be added but the base armor remained generally the same. I always though the original idea was that standard stormtrooper armor was multipurpose, adaptable and capable of being suited for any situation.
Of course ESB comes along and they decide to introduce the so-called snowtroopers, cold weather stormtroopers. Suddenly we now have troops that seemingly have specialized armor for cold combat that fill a niche that apparently regular stormtroopers can't. Now we see that "regular" stormtrooper armor is limited in some regards and isn't so universal. However, in my own headcanon, I much prefer the notion that snowtroopers are not in fact a variant of rank and file stormtroopers but rather are Imperial Marines. For the purposes of the Hoth battle, their skirted helmets were accessorized with a heated mask and they wore winter boots for snow combat. The armor as we see it is otherwise just what they look like in any circumstance, not just cold combat. They are separate from the stormtrooper corp and thus wear totally different armor. I could buy that if it was canon...which it isn't. Then of course RoTJ introduces the scout trooper although I don't really know what they offer that a standard stormtrooper couldn't do, besides look cooler of course. Obviously their armor was heavily influence by real world motocross gear. In the real world, I'm sure the costumes were more comfortable for the actors to wear but I imagine stormtrooper armor wasn't meant to actually be awkward in canon.
Besides all the variations that got introduced in the EU, the PT comes along and especially in ROTS, we see endless variations and customization of all kinds of stormtroopers (I guess called clonetroopers so we wouldn't forget they were clones?). Even in the Disney era, we get shoretroopers (Huh? Stormtroopers dedicated to...erm...fighting on shores?) and so called swamptroopers, although I think they were actually just standard Imperial soldiers and not technically stormtroopers.
Regardless, over the years it seems like we've gotten more and more highly specialized, niche stormtroopers variants for every possible biome and circumstance. I'm sure they sell toys and it is fun to see new designs but in the back of my mind, I think it takes away from what stormtroopers were potentially meant to be back at their conception. Nothing I can prove of course.
Going on a tangent but in RoTJ to an extent, and especially in the Disney era, when stormtroopers started to be depicted being knocked unconscious by melee weapons and in some cases, armor actually being shattered(?!) by sticks, I could only shake my head. Apparently the armor literally is worthless. Disney has also seen fit to establish that apparently stormtroopers are known even in the GFFA for being bad shots (Obi-wan's comments be damned) just because our heroes had plot armor in the OT and it was something of a joke among SW fans. In the first season of The Mandalorian, Mayfeld mentions he was a sniper not a stormtrooper, as a commentary on his ability to shoot, and we actually see two scouts trying to shoot a target at near pointblank range and still missing, to comic effect. With the way they are depicted, especially now, I can't imagine why they were ever feared or effective.
Many will disagree with me but...as for stormtroopers, I admit the endless variations have always kinda bothered me. I personally feel like stormtroopers as seen in ANH were originally conceived as elite universal soldiers, outfitted to be able to fight anywhere, even in the vacuum of space and ranked above standard Imperial soldiers. Sure there were accessories that could be added but the base armor remained generally the same. I always though the original idea was that standard stormtrooper armor was multipurpose, adaptable and capable of being suited for any situation.
Of course ESB comes along and they decide to introduce the so-called snowtroopers, cold weather stormtroopers. Suddenly we now have troops that seemingly have specialized armor for cold combat that fill a niche that apparently regular stormtroopers can't. Now we see that "regular" stormtrooper armor is limited in some regards and isn't so universal. However, in my own headcanon, I much prefer the notion that snowtroopers are not in fact a variant of rank and file stormtroopers but rather are Imperial Marines. For the purposes of the Hoth battle, their skirted helmets were accessorized with a heated mask and they wore winter boots for snow combat. The armor as we see it is otherwise just what they look like in any circumstance, not just cold combat. They are separate from the stormtrooper corp and thus wear totally different armor. I could buy that if it was canon...which it isn't. Then of course RoTJ introduces the scout trooper although I don't really know what they offer that a standard stormtrooper couldn't do, besides look cooler of course. Obviously their armor was heavily influence by real world motocross gear. In the real world, I'm sure the costumes were more comfortable for the actors to wear but I imagine stormtrooper armor wasn't meant to actually be awkward in canon.
Besides all the variations that got introduced in the EU, the PT comes along and especially in ROTS, we see endless variations and customization of all kinds of stormtroopers (I guess called clonetroopers so we wouldn't forget they were clones?). Even in the Disney era, we get shoretroopers (Huh? Stormtroopers dedicated to...erm...fighting on shores?) and so called swamptroopers, although I think they were actually just standard Imperial soldiers and not technically stormtroopers.
Regardless, over the years it seems like we've gotten more and more highly specialized, niche stormtroopers variants for every possible biome and circumstance. I'm sure they sell toys and it is fun to see new designs but in the back of my mind, I think it takes away from what stormtroopers were potentially meant to be back at their conception. Nothing I can prove of course.
Going on a tangent but in RoTJ to an extent, and especially in the Disney era, when stormtroopers started to be depicted being knocked unconscious by melee weapons and in some cases, armor actually being shattered(?!) by sticks, I could only shake my head. Apparently the armor literally is worthless. Disney has also seen fit to establish that apparently stormtroopers are known even in the GFFA for being bad shots (Obi-wan's comments be damned) just because our heroes had plot armor in the OT and it was something of a joke among SW fans. In the first season of The Mandalorian, Mayfeld mentions he was a sniper not a stormtrooper, as a commentary on his ability to shoot, and we actually see two scouts trying to shoot a target at near pointblank range and still missing, to comic effect. With the way they are depicted, especially now, I can't imagine why they were ever feared or effective.
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