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I feel like a crazy person but I may be in the process of doing a complete 180 and enjoying The Last Jedi. I’m not saying it’s objectively bad or anything like that, I just spent a lot of time actively disliking it only to realize now that I may have been wrong in my judgement.

Your a brave person to say that, I commend you! Whatever you do don't ever say that on YouTube, you'll get people telling you to commit suicide!

It might surprise people, since I defend TLJ so much. But I didn't start loving it. I enjoyed it, but I was very confused. It wasn't until I started watching it again, learning about the mythic origins of Star Wars, that I started to love it.
 
Debate time!

Did Vader kill Obi-Wan? Or did he become one with the Force right before Vader's blade struck him?
 
I think Vader did kill him, but Obi Wan was using the power that lets him retain his self in the Force. It sounds like you actually have to die, you can't just do it to yourself. Like "I'm done with this world, I'm going to the Force!" What I think is more interesting is Lucas saying that Obi Wan could have beat Vader in that duel, but chose not to in order to help Luke more easily.
 
I just looked in my original hardcover novelization and here is how it is described.
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Yesterday, the family and I went to see The Empire Strikes Back with the music played by the Colorado Symphony. It was such an amazing experience. The symphony was fantastic! At times, I forgot they were even there because they hit the timing and dynamics so well. Other times, they were a little louder than the original score, which provided a great opportunity to hear some nuances to the music I hadn’t noticed, even after all these years.

Sean
 
View attachment 1003136 Yesterday, the family and I went to see The Empire Strikes Back with the music played by the Colorado Symphony. It was such an amazing experience. The symphony was fantastic! At times, I forgot they were even there because they hit the timing and dynamics so well. Other times, they were a little louder than the original score, which provided a great opportunity to hear some nuances to the music I hadn’t noticed, even after all these years.

Sean

Last month the Jacksonville Symphony did ANH (ESB is on the slate for the 2019-20 season) and I felt the exact same way about the music and timing. It was a great experience.

Funny thing about the intermission for when I saw ANH. It was at the exact same spot where I had to flip the record over when listened to the story on LP as a kid. Yes kids... before streaming, discs, and even VHS, the only affordable way to revisit Star Wars when you wanted and no longer in theaters was to listen to it a record.
 
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Debate time!

Did Vader kill Obi-Wan? Or did he become one with the Force right before Vader's blade struck him?

I feel that Obi Wan surrendered himself body and soul to the Force before Vader's blade struck. If Vader's blade had struck, then there would be a body. Vader seemed surprised at the lack of a body using his foot to double check. This would have been a surprise to Vader as he most likely did not know anything about what Qui Gonn ability to communicate after death and at the time only Ben and Yoda would have known. It also would probably have been the first time (at least in recent Jedi history) a Jedi disappeared in this way.

I would also have to believe that in the case of Yoda and Luke, they utilized the last bit of their life to surrender to the Force before actual death.

I think over the years, especially for those of us who only knew the OT, we had made an assumption that Jedi just vanish when they die. Sort of like how vampires in the Buffy verse turn to ash when they die. Also back then, we did not know that Ben's ability to communicate with Luke was something that was rare. We assumed as a Jedi, when you die, it was a natural thing. However it would seem that in order to that, you would need some sort of training or skill prior... for the most part.

Qui Gonn is interesting... What was so special about him? I sort of feel he was at the time, the truest of Jedi, not the most powerful but the one who was the greatest follower in the Force and the Jedi Way and not entangled in the political agenda of the council which I believe was the primary factor of what caused the imbalance in the Force in the first place. I think he was strong enough that even after death, he was able to communicate with the living. Was it limited? Could he be seen as a ghost? I don't know.

Did Qui tap into a lost ability? Was it something that Jedi were able to do in the past but over generations became a lost ability due to imbalance? Also is this ability limited? In the old EU, Ben appeared at the beginning of the Thrawn Trilogy and spoke to Luke explaining that his communication would be his last as his abilities to appear to him were at an end. That would explain why you don't have 1000s of ancient Jedi ghosts wandering around.

Anakin's ghost appearance at the end of ROTJ is just odd (no matter what age he looks). He had no training or was probably even aware of the ability. I could only conclude that his appearance was assisted by Ben and/or Yoda as a one time thing to show Luke that he did succeed in returning Anakin from the dark side.
 
Last month the Jacksonville Symphony did ANH (ESB is on the slate for the 2019-20 season) and I felt the exact same way about the music and timing. It was a great experience.

Funny thing about the intermission for when I saw ANH. It was at the exact same spot where I had to flip the record over when listened to the story on LP as a kid. Yes kids... before streaming, discs, and even VHS, the only affordable way to revisit Star Wars when you wanted and no longer in theaters was to listen to it a record.

I remember those days.
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Anakin's ghost appearance at the end of ROTJ is just odd (no matter what age he looks). He had no training or was probably even aware of the ability. I could only conclude that his appearance was assisted by Ben and/or Yoda as a one time thing to show Luke that he did succeed in returning Anakin from the dark side.

It's also possible that Sidious had some information on that Light side Force power and Vader read up on it after Obi Wan vanished. I seem to remember reading something that Lucas said where he mentioned that it's something you have to prepare yourself to do before you die. It must not take very long because Obi Wan did it I think when he raised his lightsaber and closed his eyes, and Qui-Gon partially achieved it in an instant.
 
It's also possible that Sidious had some information on that Light side Force power and Vader read up on it after Obi Wan vanished. I seem to remember reading something that Lucas said where he mentioned that it's something you have to prepare yourself to do before you die. It must not take very long because Obi Wan did it I think when he raised his lightsaber and closed his eyes, and Qui-Gon partially achieved it in an instant.

Yes, I read that same thing too. I think it was from Lucas. That’s the actual basis of my opinion stated above. Qui did know death was approaching but I still believe he did not achieve his transition at that point or else his body would have disappeared too. Maybe some level of transition.

I also don’t think having info about it would mean anything. I don’t think it’s like a special thing you can do like tap your heels together. I would have to believe you would have to take years of special meditation and at the very least, be in total harmony and balance with the Force. Not something a Sith could do.
 
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