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Limited Run Dredd Lawgiver 2012 Full Electronics and Action
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It's more fun to make your own!
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In response to an excellent DM I just received, I would like to post their questions here and address them since it pretty much involves everyone on the run:
Q) Will there be an offer for repair. In case the Lawgiver is accidentally dropped.
A) Two things: One - This is the great thing about a modular print like this, you can swap out any broken piece easily, and since it's all open source anyone can just print you a new part. So even if I get hit by the proverbial beer truck, it can always be repaired. That being said If you were part of the run I can totally fix it for you, not for free but as cheap as I can manage (or free if it's really easy but I reserve that right). It really depends on what broke and how easy it is to fix. Example: if it's just one of the resin sights that's super easy, I can just mail you one and you can just swap it with one screw. But if you melt the frame by dropping it in a fire (extreme case) then it might take me many hours to make another one.
Q) Will there be an option for Judges to return their Lawgiver to get worn out parts replaced.
A) Since it's all high impact PLA I think the only thing that would wear would be the paint, just like anything painted would when
Q) Lastly What on the Lawgiver can a Judge do for simple maintenance or preventive maintenance to keep the Lawgiver in good working order.
This is getting it's own dedicated video, "The Dredd 2012 Lawgiver Ownership and Service Guide". It's going to be pretty fun so it'll take a bit to get done. It's in tandem with the build videos so one isn't waiting on the other but I'm still building sets and doing test shots so nothing to show yet. It will hit on everything you need to update the voice, maintain it, and field strip if needed. Let's just say we're going to do it 'in character'
If you have any differing opinions on this please let me know here or via DM, this run is outside of the scope of my usual direct sales so I'm open to feedback.
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enterprise0216
Sr Member
Props3D,
Thanks for taking time to answer those questions very much appreciate it. Looking forward to seeing the video/s whenever they are ready to go.
Thanks for taking time to answer those questions very much appreciate it. Looking forward to seeing the video/s whenever they are ready to go.
Primus Palus
New Member
It's more fun to make your own!
--------------- UNRELATED POST ---------------
In response to an excellent DM I just received, I would like to post their questions here and address them since it pretty much involves everyone on the run:
Q) Will there be an offer for repair. In case the Lawgiver is accidentally dropped.
A) Two things: One - This is the great thing about a modular print like this, you can swap out any broken piece easily, and since it's all open source anyone can just print you a new part. So even if I get hit by the proverbial beer truck, it can always be repaired. That being said If you were part of the run I can totally fix it for you, not for free but as cheap as I can manage (or free if it's really easy but I reserve that right). It really depends on what broke and how easy it is to fix. Example: if it's just one of the resin sights that's super easy, I can just mail you one and you can just swap it with one screw. But if you melt the frame by dropping it in a fire (extreme case) then it might take me many hours to make another one.
Q) Will there be an option for Judges to return their Lawgiver to get worn out parts replaced.
A) Since it's all high impact PLA I think the only thing that would wear would be the paint, just like anything painted would whenyou play with ituse it in an official capacity. So same as above, if you want me to do it I can, and I'll keep it as cheap as possible, in some cases that may be free since it may just take me a few min with an airbrush. In the video I'm making the Lawgiver it the exact same way so you can use that as a guide too, no trade secrets here
Q) Lastly What on the Lawgiver can a Judge do for simple maintenance or preventive maintenance to keep the Lawgiver in good working order.
This is getting it's own dedicated video, "The Dredd 2012 Lawgiver Ownership and Service Guide". It's going to be pretty fun so it'll take a bit to get done. It's in tandem with the build videos so one isn't waiting on the other but I'm still building sets and doing test shots so nothing to show yet. It will hit on everything you need to update the voice, maintain it, and field strip if needed. Let's just say we're going to do it 'in character'
If you have any differing opinions on this please let me know here or via DM, this run is outside of the scope of my usual direct sales so I'm open to feedback.
Very nice. As I mentioned in our direct message, if you or anyone else is willing to make an electronic voice recognition version of the 2012 Widowmaker... I would love to jump on that. Willing to pay well for it. I wish I could do this stuff and I would make my own. But I don't have that creative bone.
Grilledeggplant
New Member
I would love to purchase this law giver if there's anymore in stock. Also would love to be added on any rolling list if possible.
Think he is taking a vacation from builds after this run lol
enterprise0216
Sr Member
Knightmare is correct. Props3D already answered this question from 2 other members on thread post #191. Here is a screen grab below for you. However, feel free to go a few pages backs until you see post #191
Grilledeggplant
New Member
Apologies for the repeat mention. I was just excited to see this post as I'm currently working on getting my gear together for a convention event. I'm currently trying to piece together everything and would've loved this. I would also definitely give it a go on building this myself! I've prop built before but I understand where Props3D is coming from too, life happens and were all busy. But please keep me in mind if any new list develop
Since all the deliveries pending I've been getting a lot of DMs on various social platforms so here's the concise reasoning on why no more in this run:
(I'm just going to direct these inquiries to this message so forgive any reiteration and the long windedness)
1. I do these models for fun and the community, not as a job. Nor do I want it to be a job, they don't make as much as my day job by a long shot, or provide benefits for my kids, or the stability a family needs. If I priced these at what they would need to be sustainable they would run into the thousands, which isn't a viable price point. I did as many as I was prepared to do, I gave each one the attention and care they needed for me to be proud of them, same with BeakZ and Spidey74. We all made a decision when we started to keep the impact of this within what our lives could handle.
2. This is NOT my rights owned design! I remodeled the Lawgiver from the perspective of a fan who loves amazing designs and cool mechanisms. Spidey74 is actually the big Dredd fan (you'll see his incredible costume in the owner vid), and we geeked out over it last year and decided to see how many things we could cram into this while keeping to the mandate of 'make it accessible'. In the process, the original prop designer got involved and showed us hidden details and knowledge that we incorporated into the design. It turned out so far beyond expectation that we decided to do a limited run, and the designer gave us his blessing. Then BeakZ from Beakz Buildz and the Props 3D Discord got involved and did the metal machining you see on the barrels and triggers and took on some of the production. So after all that subverting this into a business producing these wouldn't fit within the spirit of why we're doing this or show respect the help and support we've received.
3. I've been designing and modeling professionally for years, mostly for video animations and various jobs. But I've really had no social or community presence outside of my little group. Last year was my first big outing, starting with a booth at Fan Expo Vancouver and then starting to post on the RPF. I was an educator for years and I've done a lot around that like hosting crazy Korean educational TV shows, I love showing people how to do things! 2022 was about getting set up. 2023 is about creating a YouTube channel and starting to release the models I've done along with 'How To' videos. Spidey74 is a brilliant coder and has taken over my hacky code and made it extensible and customizable so anyone can easily configure and implement, which he's hosting and maintaining on the props3d Github. I think we make an awesome team and the Lawgiver is our first big team-up so I REALLY want to get started on the videos. But I can't do the videos until the run is done, so every Lawgiver I add pushes the videos back by two weeks, which is why I have added zero since starting the run. I just boxed the last one for my part of the run last night, so I want to get going!
Here's the set progress, ignoring the 2 helmets at the top every 3D model here is a props3D original:
The Mando blaster has lights and sound, the safety is the power switch, this one is next. The E-11 here is the screen used on from Bucketheads EP2 when you see them rack the bolt in the promo. The E-11's bolt toggles the power, the battery is in the magazine, the scope lights up, the barrel has addressable LEDs down it for a really cool fire effect, the selector actually changes fire modes with lighting effects, stock folds out, etc. The Pulse rifle has a full to spec Thompson inside with working bolt and trigger and the shotgun can actually chamber and eject grenades. The R4 is autonomous, the Lightsabers are battle ready, the 5th Element stones are animated, etc, etc. All of these are 'coming soon' and have no really value until we can do videos for them.
So tl;dr: No, I'm not doing more for now, I may do more in the future but I'm REALLY itching to start making how-to videos and share them with all of you asap.
Bonus:
Here's me playing God in a spacesuit dancing the robot after making the girl the moon the boy the sun, despite us standing on the moon (the kids got there after escaping from the big bad wolf in a flying saucer). This was a show reenacting Goldilocks. Asian educational TV shows are wild:
(I'm just going to direct these inquiries to this message so forgive any reiteration and the long windedness)
1. I do these models for fun and the community, not as a job. Nor do I want it to be a job, they don't make as much as my day job by a long shot, or provide benefits for my kids, or the stability a family needs. If I priced these at what they would need to be sustainable they would run into the thousands, which isn't a viable price point. I did as many as I was prepared to do, I gave each one the attention and care they needed for me to be proud of them, same with BeakZ and Spidey74. We all made a decision when we started to keep the impact of this within what our lives could handle.
2. This is NOT my rights owned design! I remodeled the Lawgiver from the perspective of a fan who loves amazing designs and cool mechanisms. Spidey74 is actually the big Dredd fan (you'll see his incredible costume in the owner vid), and we geeked out over it last year and decided to see how many things we could cram into this while keeping to the mandate of 'make it accessible'. In the process, the original prop designer got involved and showed us hidden details and knowledge that we incorporated into the design. It turned out so far beyond expectation that we decided to do a limited run, and the designer gave us his blessing. Then BeakZ from Beakz Buildz and the Props 3D Discord got involved and did the metal machining you see on the barrels and triggers and took on some of the production. So after all that subverting this into a business producing these wouldn't fit within the spirit of why we're doing this or show respect the help and support we've received.
3. I've been designing and modeling professionally for years, mostly for video animations and various jobs. But I've really had no social or community presence outside of my little group. Last year was my first big outing, starting with a booth at Fan Expo Vancouver and then starting to post on the RPF. I was an educator for years and I've done a lot around that like hosting crazy Korean educational TV shows, I love showing people how to do things! 2022 was about getting set up. 2023 is about creating a YouTube channel and starting to release the models I've done along with 'How To' videos. Spidey74 is a brilliant coder and has taken over my hacky code and made it extensible and customizable so anyone can easily configure and implement, which he's hosting and maintaining on the props3d Github. I think we make an awesome team and the Lawgiver is our first big team-up so I REALLY want to get started on the videos. But I can't do the videos until the run is done, so every Lawgiver I add pushes the videos back by two weeks, which is why I have added zero since starting the run. I just boxed the last one for my part of the run last night, so I want to get going!
Here's the set progress, ignoring the 2 helmets at the top every 3D model here is a props3D original:
The Mando blaster has lights and sound, the safety is the power switch, this one is next. The E-11 here is the screen used on from Bucketheads EP2 when you see them rack the bolt in the promo. The E-11's bolt toggles the power, the battery is in the magazine, the scope lights up, the barrel has addressable LEDs down it for a really cool fire effect, the selector actually changes fire modes with lighting effects, stock folds out, etc. The Pulse rifle has a full to spec Thompson inside with working bolt and trigger and the shotgun can actually chamber and eject grenades. The R4 is autonomous, the Lightsabers are battle ready, the 5th Element stones are animated, etc, etc. All of these are 'coming soon' and have no really value until we can do videos for them.
So tl;dr: No, I'm not doing more for now, I may do more in the future but I'm REALLY itching to start making how-to videos and share them with all of you asap.
Bonus:
Here's me playing God in a spacesuit dancing the robot after making the girl the moon the boy the sun, despite us standing on the moon (the kids got there after escaping from the big bad wolf in a flying saucer). This was a show reenacting Goldilocks. Asian educational TV shows are wild:
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Can’t wait to see your future videos ! I will cherish the lawgiver as I’m sure all who was Lucky enough to be part of this run will . Thank you sir for making something truly memorable.
Primus Palus
New Member
I'm annoyed this forum only allows me to hit like once.
Although the holidays were busy, I’ve slowly been making progress. despite the whole family getting sick over Christmas (and I'm still not 100%).
I’ve got all the parts finished and ready for assembly.
Currently, I’m focused now on building the electronics for each lawgiver. I'm close to having a fully working kit as a template to follow.
It’s been very interesting coming back to the code and rebuilding the kit since I did the original one over a year ago. Feels like deja vu. There’s been some odd behaviours pop up, specifically with the audio component. This has lead me to doing some debugging and finding some interesting insights. We sourced all the components at the same time to eliminate variability. But each component can come with different ICs that may not operate as expected. For instance, Chris recently ran into a small glitch that was related to the boot loader on the Arduino, where the first playback would not work when powered by battery. I replicated the same glitch, so in my travels here’s what I learned.
First, I wanted to do some wire tracing on the components. I could see that the commands were being issued properly. So I took to the forums and started reviewing other open source code for the DF players. I discovered that some IC variants have a different packet frame so I tested that to learn that some chips are very forgiving and support both structures. It didn't solve the issue but it was helpful to explore and better understand the serial communication. The code now has support for both formats if needed.
Next, I started reading about the DF Player Pro which functions in exactly the same way as the DF Mini. It's is a nice alternative which has 128mb onboard memory with a 3w amp. Testing this component worked pretty well, so now the code base has support for both audio components. But initially it wouldn't start up with the OLED plugged in, which made no sense to me so I had to explore further.
I turned toward reviewing the entire Arduino sketch. It's pretty large and with all the libraries it uses 99% of the available 32k ram on the Arduino Nano. So I started reviewing some of the optimizations I made to move static data out of the RAM and into the Flash memory. The objective of these changes was to reclaim some RAM so it wasn't at the threshold of 100% which might make it difficult for others to get it to compile on their environments. I discovered that moving some of the String data into the Flash memory might not work properly with the OLED, although it had been always working just fine. So I made some updates to store the String data in Flash memory, but it's pulled into RAM when it's needed by the OLED to write to screen. This makes the code more robust and helps with preventing memory fragmentation.
Speaking of memory frag, I wanted to make sure the application code was optimal since the Nano runs on such a small amount of memory (32k) and it was compiling to nearly 100%. So I reviewed a few other areas. First up was the use of String objects and string manipulation. Using String objects can fragment memory very quickly because it creates a lot of temporary objects. So I made some changes to use static character buffers and standard clib functions to prevent memory fragmentation.
Last set of changes I made was to reclaim some program memory by reducing the overall sketch size. I did this by replacing the external libraries with something smaller. I added to the sketch my own implementations for handling serial comms to the audio and VR component. I only added the necessary features that were required for our application and left the rest. This help save nearly 10%-12% of memory needed by the sketch but more importantly gives way more control on how we can debug and troubleshoot any issues. Another benefit is that there are less steps to getting the code to compile since there are fewer libraries needed.
The upshot here is that nothing has changed functionally. This is the nature of building these types of projects where we continue to learn and improve the end product. And as usual, I'll provide more updates as I make progress.
I’ve got all the parts finished and ready for assembly.
Currently, I’m focused now on building the electronics for each lawgiver. I'm close to having a fully working kit as a template to follow.
It’s been very interesting coming back to the code and rebuilding the kit since I did the original one over a year ago. Feels like deja vu. There’s been some odd behaviours pop up, specifically with the audio component. This has lead me to doing some debugging and finding some interesting insights. We sourced all the components at the same time to eliminate variability. But each component can come with different ICs that may not operate as expected. For instance, Chris recently ran into a small glitch that was related to the boot loader on the Arduino, where the first playback would not work when powered by battery. I replicated the same glitch, so in my travels here’s what I learned.
First, I wanted to do some wire tracing on the components. I could see that the commands were being issued properly. So I took to the forums and started reviewing other open source code for the DF players. I discovered that some IC variants have a different packet frame so I tested that to learn that some chips are very forgiving and support both structures. It didn't solve the issue but it was helpful to explore and better understand the serial communication. The code now has support for both formats if needed.
Next, I started reading about the DF Player Pro which functions in exactly the same way as the DF Mini. It's is a nice alternative which has 128mb onboard memory with a 3w amp. Testing this component worked pretty well, so now the code base has support for both audio components. But initially it wouldn't start up with the OLED plugged in, which made no sense to me so I had to explore further.
I turned toward reviewing the entire Arduino sketch. It's pretty large and with all the libraries it uses 99% of the available 32k ram on the Arduino Nano. So I started reviewing some of the optimizations I made to move static data out of the RAM and into the Flash memory. The objective of these changes was to reclaim some RAM so it wasn't at the threshold of 100% which might make it difficult for others to get it to compile on their environments. I discovered that moving some of the String data into the Flash memory might not work properly with the OLED, although it had been always working just fine. So I made some updates to store the String data in Flash memory, but it's pulled into RAM when it's needed by the OLED to write to screen. This makes the code more robust and helps with preventing memory fragmentation.
Speaking of memory frag, I wanted to make sure the application code was optimal since the Nano runs on such a small amount of memory (32k) and it was compiling to nearly 100%. So I reviewed a few other areas. First up was the use of String objects and string manipulation. Using String objects can fragment memory very quickly because it creates a lot of temporary objects. So I made some changes to use static character buffers and standard clib functions to prevent memory fragmentation.
Last set of changes I made was to reclaim some program memory by reducing the overall sketch size. I did this by replacing the external libraries with something smaller. I added to the sketch my own implementations for handling serial comms to the audio and VR component. I only added the necessary features that were required for our application and left the rest. This help save nearly 10%-12% of memory needed by the sketch but more importantly gives way more control on how we can debug and troubleshoot any issues. Another benefit is that there are less steps to getting the code to compile since there are fewer libraries needed.
The upshot here is that nothing has changed functionally. This is the nature of building these types of projects where we continue to learn and improve the end product. And as usual, I'll provide more updates as I make progress.
Unfortunately one of the run arrived broken. Here's the pics, with the number removed in case that person doesn't want to say who they are, but if the do please feel free to post your experience.
On inspection of the pics I was sent, it looks like it was dropped top edge on concrete, which would smash almost anything. This is the first time there's been any reported shipping damage and I'm extremally sorry. I'm going to pay for shipping both ways and replace all the damaged parts from my personal one, I don't want anyone to have a repaired one brand new and it also means I can do a same day turnaround.
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Damage breakdown and my thoughts, just FYI:
It may look bad, but on inspection this is probably pretty easy to rectify on my end:
The cowl: All I really need to do is replace the mid-sight (laser sight) and reseat the spring, cowl itself is perfectly intact. It looks like the only part actually broken is the top mid sight, which is all the little bits you see. Resin is very strong but sharp impacts can be too much for any small part, I'll just glue a new one on and it'll be right as rain.
Rear slide: The rear slide is jammed open but I'm 99% sure the spring just jumped up on it's seating so that's a 2 second fix. The guide bars are steel so the only way it can jam without running a car over it is the spring seating, which would only be caused by a hard slam on the top.
The speaker: It's is also out of it's seating, I didn't glue the speakers in for serviceability, they just push back in place. So if you ever see a speaker out just take the top cowl off and reseat it, which you can do just by removing the rear sight screw, just remember to hold the rear sight in place so it doesn't scratch anything if it rotates. If you want you can use a drop of superglue or tape from the bottom of the speaker to make it more secure, but they're designed to be removable like everything else and will come loose with a hard bump.
On the off chance anyone else has shipping damage please DM me right away, we'll make it right for you.
On inspection of the pics I was sent, it looks like it was dropped top edge on concrete, which would smash almost anything. This is the first time there's been any reported shipping damage and I'm extremally sorry. I'm going to pay for shipping both ways and replace all the damaged parts from my personal one, I don't want anyone to have a repaired one brand new and it also means I can do a same day turnaround.
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Damage breakdown and my thoughts, just FYI:
It may look bad, but on inspection this is probably pretty easy to rectify on my end:
The cowl: All I really need to do is replace the mid-sight (laser sight) and reseat the spring, cowl itself is perfectly intact. It looks like the only part actually broken is the top mid sight, which is all the little bits you see. Resin is very strong but sharp impacts can be too much for any small part, I'll just glue a new one on and it'll be right as rain.
Rear slide: The rear slide is jammed open but I'm 99% sure the spring just jumped up on it's seating so that's a 2 second fix. The guide bars are steel so the only way it can jam without running a car over it is the spring seating, which would only be caused by a hard slam on the top.
The speaker: It's is also out of it's seating, I didn't glue the speakers in for serviceability, they just push back in place. So if you ever see a speaker out just take the top cowl off and reseat it, which you can do just by removing the rear sight screw, just remember to hold the rear sight in place so it doesn't scratch anything if it rotates. If you want you can use a drop of superglue or tape from the bottom of the speaker to make it more secure, but they're designed to be removable like everything else and will come loose with a hard bump.
On the off chance anyone else has shipping damage please DM me right away, we'll make it right for you.
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And a follow up note, I've had a few comments on the voice recognition not being accurate out of the box. I have addressed this before but I will do again right now in more detail:
This isn't a Google assistant or Amazon Alexa with cloud communication and a library of the entire world's biometric data but a local sound pattern recognition device.
This is a GOOD thing for several reasons:
My wife has a strong accent, her and our Alexa are mortal enemies. It doesn't understand anything she says and just ignores her there's no way to fix that, no matter how loud she screams at it. So if you have any sort of accent or speech inflection and I stuffed an Alexa in it, you would be hooped. Not so with the Lawgiver!
Out of the box I trained it with my voice, and my pitch. You can hear it in the videos above. That's what it's looking for. When you train it with YOUR voice it will recognize YOU, and be extremely accurate at that, no matter how you speak. This makes it more accurate than any phone or assistant when trained to you, and it doesn't care what language, accent, inflection, etc you have, just how you say it when you train it.
I said from the start that I wouldn't do the Voice Recognition training video, or any video on how to build one, until the run is done. Each one of these is a huge amount of work and we owe it to you to get the run out as fast as possible. There are detailed instructions on GitHub - Props3D/dredd-lawgiver if you want to give it a go now, but I suggest you wait, now we're at the end we're turning our attention to these little things, and Craig Spidey74 has been hard at work automating the voice training process to make it extremely easy. Here's a screenshot from a call we had last week about it. It's a bit mumbo jumbo but you don't really need to look at the code, just the lighter text area where he's doing the training on the left:
So the process went from the 10 step process detailed on Github to about 2 steps now, which is what I want in the video. I'm finalizing the set and starting filming this weekend while Craig is finishing the last 4 for shipping. It's all coming together at the end, like it should
This isn't a Google assistant or Amazon Alexa with cloud communication and a library of the entire world's biometric data but a local sound pattern recognition device.
This is a GOOD thing for several reasons:
My wife has a strong accent, her and our Alexa are mortal enemies. It doesn't understand anything she says and just ignores her there's no way to fix that, no matter how loud she screams at it. So if you have any sort of accent or speech inflection and I stuffed an Alexa in it, you would be hooped. Not so with the Lawgiver!
Out of the box I trained it with my voice, and my pitch. You can hear it in the videos above. That's what it's looking for. When you train it with YOUR voice it will recognize YOU, and be extremely accurate at that, no matter how you speak. This makes it more accurate than any phone or assistant when trained to you, and it doesn't care what language, accent, inflection, etc you have, just how you say it when you train it.
I said from the start that I wouldn't do the Voice Recognition training video, or any video on how to build one, until the run is done. Each one of these is a huge amount of work and we owe it to you to get the run out as fast as possible. There are detailed instructions on GitHub - Props3D/dredd-lawgiver if you want to give it a go now, but I suggest you wait, now we're at the end we're turning our attention to these little things, and Craig Spidey74 has been hard at work automating the voice training process to make it extremely easy. Here's a screenshot from a call we had last week about it. It's a bit mumbo jumbo but you don't really need to look at the code, just the lighter text area where he's doing the training on the left:
So the process went from the 10 step process detailed on Github to about 2 steps now, which is what I want in the video. I'm finalizing the set and starting filming this weekend while Craig is finishing the last 4 for shipping. It's all coming together at the end, like it should
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rolandblais
Well-Known Member
I received my Lawgiver yesterday, and it's basically a Museum Piece. I am extremely happy with how it turned out and Chris, my hat is off to you. Not only have you created a beautiful Prop Replica, but made it available to the community. Exemplary.
enterprise0216
Sr Member
I got mine today and to say I am speechless when opening the package is an understatement. I took a few pics to share mine from what I can thus far arrived undamaged. The Lawgiver shifted around a bit in the packaging but that is to be expected. Due to mail couriers handling the box and some of the employee see fragile sticker and and some of them just mishandle the package. The front and rear sights were slightly twisted / not aligned with the barrel. I can hear something loose at the rear above the slide. Something may have come loose. It doesn’t affect the function at all. My dogs are Not happy. It’s the Isocubes for them…LOL! Okay seriously I am blown away level of details and working trigger, rear slide, display, sound etc etc just INSANE. Huge thanks to Props3D, BeakZ and Spidey74 for one awesome project run. I cannot express my gratitude enough. Did I mention I can’t stop smiling LOL!!
enterprise0216
The sights are removable so you can just twist to align them then tighten them with a screwdriver/Alan key. Being misaligned is fine, but
it looks like this box was also the ball in a soccer match and a bit of paint came off the sights from the mishandling. What's with the postal service down there!?! I'll just mail you a new set tomorrow, you can keep the other ones as backups, just a quick paint touchup and they're as good as new.
In terms of the rattle, check the grill and see if a speaker came loose, as I said before I didn't glue them down for service and if it took a bump they can come out, they just press fit in place. You can do that together with the sights by removing the two sight screws (hold each sight in place as you remove them, resin is sharp and can scratch the paint), carefully take the rear cowl off, reseat the speakers, and repeat in reverse. It may also be the front lens if it got bumped in shipping, you can unscrew the 2 screws on the front cowl and slide the barrel out, though be very careful when doing so since the tolerances are very tight. You can then access the sleeve that holds the lens and push it in place, you can use a bit of extra double sided tape between the sleeve and barrel if you want to hold it firmer.
I can take a quick video of either process for you if you'd like or we can jump on a zoom call
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I'm really itching to get the videos done to show everyone how and why all the decisions were made. There's a lot of complications in the design for serviceability and upgradability, and I don't want features to be mistaken for defects. I could easily glue the sights down and glue the speakers in etc but then it limits the future upgradability and service options.
I was on a shoot last week to test the new camera setup and film some intros and had a huge camera issue, the SSD can't handle the sustained bitrate of prores422! So I had to order a much better SSD and an aluminum shell to dissipate the heat, I just finished installing it a few hours ago.
If the camera craps out during filming I have to literally start again with a new lawgiver, which also means I need 'backups', so I printed 3 separate Lawgivers for the video. I also need to do 4 perfect 'kits' before I film and I was short of parts, which also arrived today. This way I can make one first, then one in the video, and then have 2 extras a s a template and eventually do that 3rd LG. This will allow me to 'confirm' everything is correct. There's a lots of niggly things like: How much of each wire length? How much heat shrink? Its enough to drive a man mad!
I'm also very 'in for a penny, in for a pound' so I've been spending the waiting time updating the studio, which I'm pretty proud of:
And of course, writing scripts:
Anyway, ready to roll on the intro above, with luck I'll have some cut footage tomorrow. I'll share unlisted links as I go in the build thread, feedback appreciated, it's my first time trying to make a video of something on this scale.
The sights are removable so you can just twist to align them then tighten them with a screwdriver/Alan key. Being misaligned is fine, but
it looks like this box was also the ball in a soccer match and a bit of paint came off the sights from the mishandling. What's with the postal service down there!?! I'll just mail you a new set tomorrow, you can keep the other ones as backups, just a quick paint touchup and they're as good as new.
In terms of the rattle, check the grill and see if a speaker came loose, as I said before I didn't glue them down for service and if it took a bump they can come out, they just press fit in place. You can do that together with the sights by removing the two sight screws (hold each sight in place as you remove them, resin is sharp and can scratch the paint), carefully take the rear cowl off, reseat the speakers, and repeat in reverse. It may also be the front lens if it got bumped in shipping, you can unscrew the 2 screws on the front cowl and slide the barrel out, though be very careful when doing so since the tolerances are very tight. You can then access the sleeve that holds the lens and push it in place, you can use a bit of extra double sided tape between the sleeve and barrel if you want to hold it firmer.
I can take a quick video of either process for you if you'd like or we can jump on a zoom call
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I'm really itching to get the videos done to show everyone how and why all the decisions were made. There's a lot of complications in the design for serviceability and upgradability, and I don't want features to be mistaken for defects. I could easily glue the sights down and glue the speakers in etc but then it limits the future upgradability and service options.
I was on a shoot last week to test the new camera setup and film some intros and had a huge camera issue, the SSD can't handle the sustained bitrate of prores422! So I had to order a much better SSD and an aluminum shell to dissipate the heat, I just finished installing it a few hours ago.
If the camera craps out during filming I have to literally start again with a new lawgiver, which also means I need 'backups', so I printed 3 separate Lawgivers for the video. I also need to do 4 perfect 'kits' before I film and I was short of parts, which also arrived today. This way I can make one first, then one in the video, and then have 2 extras a s a template and eventually do that 3rd LG. This will allow me to 'confirm' everything is correct. There's a lots of niggly things like: How much of each wire length? How much heat shrink? Its enough to drive a man mad!
I'm also very 'in for a penny, in for a pound' so I've been spending the waiting time updating the studio, which I'm pretty proud of:
And of course, writing scripts:
Anyway, ready to roll on the intro above, with luck I'll have some cut footage tomorrow. I'll share unlisted links as I go in the build thread, feedback appreciated, it's my first time trying to make a video of something on this scale.
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enterprise0216
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Hi Prop3D,
All good and I figure the sites were loose and needed tightened I did not over it do i. Just gotta delicate. As you said a lot of decision making went into the design buIld process specially for accessing key components for servicing. Loose sound was the speaker as you said and it popped back in no issue. It’s a solid build no doubt no more loose sound. Thanks for the technical support much appreciate
All good and I figure the sites were loose and needed tightened I did not over it do i. Just gotta delicate. As you said a lot of decision making went into the design buIld process specially for accessing key components for servicing. Loose sound was the speaker as you said and it popped back in no issue. It’s a solid build no doubt no more loose sound. Thanks for the technical support much appreciate
There is rubbed paint due to mishandling, I'm sending you a new set of sights and you're not talking me out of itHi Prop3D,
All good and I figure the sites were loose and needed tightened I did not over it do i. Just gotta delicate. As you said a lot of decision making went into the design buIld process specially for accessing key components for servicing. Loose sound was the speaker as you said and it popped back in no issue. It’s a solid build no doubt no more loose sound. Thanks for the technical support much appreciate
