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Donald Glover was a great Lando. Of course Disney is going to waste that. I would expect no less from them.

I've always said that whole 'Solo' movie should have been a Lando movie. Donald Glover was a stronger recasting job than Alden E from the start. And the expectations around the movie would have been lower.
Yeah, I didn't care for the actor they cast as Han; didn't pull it off very well.
 
Yeah, I didn't care for the actor they cast as Han; didn't pull it off very well.

I thought he did a decent serviceable job but he wasn't stellar. Harrison was stellar. We would probably think Alden's job was fine if we didn't have Harrison to compare him to.

The movie showed us the character without Harrison and the OT boosting him. He turned out to be kind of a one-note bland hotshot (especially since the movie could only deal with him before ANH). That's what Harrison used to complain about when he played him.


I think Lando could have been a more interesting movie. By the end of the OT he had been on a helluva twisting road in life (scoundrel -> city politican -> freedom fighter). But we didn't have as much screen time with him. His personal life was still a blank slate. There was more latitude to develop him without stepping on OT canon & fan expectations.

And Lando wasn't even in the OT until halfway through it. They could have woven earlier stuff into the Lando movie. Maybe Cloud City was involved in supplying rebels who were holed up on Dantooine or Yavin. ("He's got no love for the Empire, I can tell you that.") Maybe Lando had his own dealings & beefs with Jabba the Hutt. Etc.
 
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I thought he did a decent serviceable job but he wasn't stellar. Harrison was stellar. We would probably think Alden's job was fine if we didn't have Harrison to compare him to.

The movie showed us the character without Harrison and the OT boosting him. He turned out to be kind of a one-note bland hotshot (especially since the movie could only deal with him before ANH). That's what Harrison used to complain about when he played him.


I think Lando could have been a more interesting movie. By the end of the OT he had been on a helluva twisting road in life (scoundrel -> city politican -> freedom fighter). But we didn't have as much screen time with him. His personal life was still a blank slate. There was more latitude to develop him without stepping on OT canon & fan expectations.

And Lando wasn't even in the OT until halfway through it. They could have woven earlier stuff into the Lando movie. Maybe Cloud City was involved in supplying rebels who were holed up on Dantooine or Yavin. ("He's got no love for the Empire, I can tell you that.") Maybe Lando had his own dealings & beefs with Jabba the Hutt. Etc.
Actually, I thought he was too smart for the role. Han isn't a genius, and the actor playing him in SOlo didn't seem to be able to play Han as the sort of meathead that he was in the trilogy.
 
Finally a chance to call Disney/Lucasfilm racist! DUH DUH DUUUUUH! This was one of the only things that might have turned out pretty decent.
 
Actually, I thought he was too smart for the role. Han isn't a genius, and the actor playing him in SOlo didn't seem to be able to play Han as the sort of meathead that he was in the trilogy.

Yes and no. Harrison-Han was fairly capable at rescuing Luke on Hoth, for example. And he ditched Vader's star destroyer without even having a hyerdrive, hiding from it on the back of its own tower.

Harrison-Han just seemed to be heavily affected by sheer luck (good and bad). That happens when the script is using a character as a utility rather than being the main focus. He's always failing or succeeding at stuff for a laugh.

I think the script differences with Alden-Han were necessary to get away with the fact that Alden wasn't the iconic lovable rogue we were used to, and he was the main character now. If he had bumbled through the whole 'Solo' movie like Harrison-Han bumbled through the OT, people would have complained. They would have said "That's not the old Han!" even though it was.


IMO writing the script for Alden-Han would have been a challenge. Harder than people give it credit for. Everybody knows exactly how (they expect) Han to act, and that's the problem. They expect all the trappings of a supporting character rather than a main character.

It's the same reason why everybody loved Hugh Jackman's Wolverine in the early X-Men movies. But the filmmakers could never bottle the same magic when they put the character in standalone movies.
 
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Yeah, I didn't care for the actor they cast as Han; didn't pull it off very well.

The actor somewhat shows that, in Hollywood, “who you know” matters more than anything:

Ehrenreich was discovered at a friend's bat mitzvah reception by Steven Spielberg, who watched a comedy video created by Ehrenreich and a friend, "which began in the present and eventually cut to 20 or 30 years later, with Mr. Ehrenreich, in a kimono, screaming to stop a wedding." Ehrenreich has described the comedic performance he gave in the movie as, "I ran around as a skinny little punk, trying on girls' clothes and eating dirt." He was then contacted by DreamWorks, a studio which Spielberg helped found, and met with its casting director.

Spielberg said of Ehrenreich:


[He] was in a bat mitzvah video that my daughter acted with him in for their best friend. They showed me the video and I loved it and I got him an agent. That's sort of how it all began ...
 
Yeah that Spielberg connection was well-known.

I still think Alden E was decent. Probably better than most of their options. But it was a pretty thankless job he was doing.

(Please nobody start bringing up Anthony Ingruber. James Bond actors don't get hired based on their Sean Connery impressions.)
 
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IDK, I actually like SOLO. Other than Rogue One, it's the only movie that looks and feels like it belongs in that universe. I think the problem was that people couldn't see past it not being Harrison Ford. There's NO way short of CGI age regression to do it other than using another actor. Over an entire movie, it would be cost prohibitive.
 
Yeah that Spielberg connection was well-known.

I still think Alden E was decent. Probably better than most of their options. But it was a pretty thankless job he was doing.

(Please nobody start bringing up Anthony Ingruber. James Bond actors don't get hired based on their Sean Connery impressions.)
Ehrenreich still adopted a lot of Ford's characteristics for the role (Ford's use of fingerpointing when he's displaying anger or trying to make a point, his speech pattern and inflection). So to say he didn't do a full-on impression ignores that Ford's mannerisms and acting style were aped to some degree by Alden. Also, no one seemed to mind that Glover was trying to do a Billy Dee Williams impression (quite the opposite, as his performance was very well received). I know some of those choices were made at the behest of the studio, but it's still how they performed their roles, and movie goers responded to it, either favorably or unfavorably.

I wasn't upset that Alden wasn't trying to do a Ford impression, it's that the character of Han Solo has been established by Ford, including his appearance as well as his mannerisms. To cast an actor that is pretty much Carrie Fisher's height, has a less commanding voice than Ford, in addition to having more "delicate" features (for lack of a better term), makes it a lot harder to believe that he's supposed to be the same character, only a bit younger than Ford in the original film.

For a different example, River Phoenix played the young Indiana Jones in "The Last Crusade," and I wouldn't say he looks that much like a young Ford, but he managed to capture more of the character so that it felt more believable that he was a younger incarnation of Indy. He also didn't have to carry an entire movie.

For the record, I liked the Solo film (more on subsequent viewings than when I originally saw it), and thought Ehrenreich did a decent job, but he still never quite felt like a young Han Solo to me. As an exampke of another actor that I could see in the role, I think Adam Driver could've done a good job as Han, if he hadn't already been Ben Solo. He doesn't look or sound like Ford, but shares some characteristics with him, plus being an outstanding actor. There's a lot of other actors out there, so to say Ehrenreich was one of the best choices for the role feels like a vast overstatement.
 
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I'm not against actors trying to ape the mannerisms of the old one (within reason), especially in their first outing trying to replace an icon. That's harmless bridging. The important thing is that the actor is basically chosen because they can nail the role.

People always look at the replacement actor and ask "Does he look like the old guy?"
They should be asking "If this new guy had auditioned for the original movie decades ago, would he have been considered?"


Alden didn't look & sound like Ford but IMO he didn't really need to. He needed to come off as young Han Solo and I think he did that passably well.

Donald Glover only resembles Billy Dee Williams in the broad strokes. (Race, size, age.) But Glover has the charisma of a leading man and he nailed the mojo of Lando - that's the important stuff.
 
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There were alot of problems with the Solo movie that I think would have been compounded upon with Lando which wouldnt not have been good imo.

A big problem with Solo was that it was designed as a trilogy movie in mind but not marketed that way. The Solo movie doesnt really go anywhere and seemed like a pure fan-service movie poorly done without really exploring Han as a character. He is a lovable, heart-broken rogue and we see how he met Chewy, got his name, got the Falcon, and did the kessel run. They also added unnecessary things like Lando being robo-sexual and the robot's AI being in the Falcon (which honestly brings up some poor implications that shouldnt be introduced imo). The fact that we dont end with Han as the jaded smuggler we see in ANH and get the teaser drop of an alive Maul that doesnt go anywhere doesnt help either (could have at least used Maul as an excuse to bring him back as Kylo's master in the ST for example instead of somehow Palpatine returned. Not great either though imo).

So Im honestly not sure how well a Lando series would have worked. Glover is also apparently quite busy and doesnt need Star Wars arguably. Not surprised another Star Wars project was unceremoniously announced and dropped. Never bothered to list all the announced and cancelled projects but I feel its almost a coinflip whether an announced Star Wars project is actually happening or not.

Recently, I have been wondering how many modern audiences have actually watched the OT. I think they would be considered "old" movies with "dated" CGI that doesnt appeal to the modern crowd but there are so many wrong things being touted as "fact" like Yoda and Obi Wan wanted Luke to kill his father, stormtroopers are useless, R2D2 and C3PO are gay. Im starting to think these memes made by fans making light-hearted fun of the OT are being taken as fact by modern audiences who never seen the films and have consumed them through cultural osmosis and theory videos.
 
The last age group that all saw the OT was the kids who grew up with the PT in the early 2000s. They went home and watched the OT to finish the story. So the cutoff is about 30yo today. For kids younger than that, the MCU was their cool franchise.

I don't think anybody liked Lando's robo-Falcon-girlfriend in 'Solo'. The idea crashed & burned from day one. Like, worse than Jar-Jar Binks.


Yes, Donald Glover doesn't need SW now.

Who (in high demand) does? The franchise is dying fast. Disney's stuff has been reliably bad. If you did test screenings with random people off a street corner, the last several years of SW content would rate worse than the last several Terminator movies.
 
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So I'm not sure if this is a miscommunication or no one really knows what's going on at Lucasfilm, but I thought we knew from around the beginning of the year that this wasn't going to be a series and it was going to be a movie headed by the Glover brothers. The article makes it sound like this is new news. So is the movie dead as well, or just the series?
 
Yep, last news was it was going to be a movie

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