Lets talk all things Star Wars

[HeartBlade]

So here's some fun BTS info for Star Wars Underworld.

https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsEU/comments/11orveu

Imagine what would have been if Lucasfilm could have been an independent production company....

I dont want to wax poetry that Lucasfilm would have been amazing/perfect had they not been acquired by Disney since Lucas was struggling with his new films not taking off but I do think Lucasfilm would have survived even if it remained independent.

It was still a leader in film technology and getting unique shots and Lucas did have the inspiration of going into long-form storytelling through tv shows with underground. Clones wars had good, interesting stories that were definitely overlooked because it was a cartoon. A live-action tv show could have put Lucasfilm on the map as an amazing tv show production studio and would 100% be courted by various streaming services to make exclusive or time-exclusive content for them.

 

[Joek3rr]

I dont want to wax poetry that Lucasfilm would have been amazing/perfect had they not been acquired by Disney since Lucas was struggling with his new films not taking off but I do think Lucasfilm would have survived even if it remained independent.

It was still a leader in film technology and getting unique shots and Lucas did have the inspiration of going into long-form storytelling through tv shows with underground. Clones wars had good, interesting stories that were definitely overlooked because it was a cartoon. A live-action tv show could have put Lucasfilm on the map as an amazing tv show production studio and would 100% be courted by various streaming services to make exclusive or time-exclusive content for them.

There's definitely no way it would have been perfect or amazing. There would have still been a continuity reset. After The Clone Wars ignored the continuity of the EU and the films. And you can bet that there would have been controversial content that divided the fan base.

But to have Lucasfilm remain independent. That alone would have been nice to see. It saddens me to think of George Lucas. One of those young film makers who bucked the old studio system, only to turn around and sell his company, to the biggest studio in the world. Disney is monstrosity that needs to be nocked down a couple pegs.

 

[blewis17]

Lucas and Gillard: ROTS Lightsaber duels

 

[Joek3rr]

Here's something I recently discovered. In Revenge of the Sith there are two different models for the Eta-2. One with long cannons, and one with short cannons.

 

[JoeG]

Is it really intended to be 2 separate models or is it just bad perspective \ cgi issue?

 

[Treadwell]

I was suspecting one was just in the middle of a recoil, but the barrels themselves seem to be a different design.
Real world answer is probably a minor running revision to the CG model during production. But knowing the official LFL keepers of lore, I'm sure they've come up with some cockimamey in-story explanation instead of just ignoring it as they should.

 

[Joek3rr]

Is it really intended to be 2 separate models or is it just bad perspective \ cgi issue?

I've noticed that the short barreled version is more prevalent in the film. But the full size ship has long barrels, as does the studio scale concept model.

 

[Joek3rr]

I was suspecting one was just in the middle of a recoil, but the barrels themselves seem to be a different design.
Real world answer is probably a minor running revision to the CG model during production. But knowing the official LFL keepers of lore, I'm sure they've come up with some cockimamey in-story explanation instead of just ignoring it as they should.

I'm actually not aware of any in-universe lore, yet....

 

[ghostryder]

Steven Knight to Write New ‘Star Wars’ Movie After Damon Lindelof, Justin Britt-Gibson Exit (EXCLUSIVE)

Steven Knight has replaced Damon Lindelof and Justin Britt-Gibson as the writer of a new “Star Wars” film, to be directed by Sharmeen Obaid-Chinoy.

variety.com

 

[Sluis Van Shipyards]

Here's something I recently discovered. In Revenge of the Sith there are two different models for the Eta-2. One with long cannons, and one with short cannons.View attachment 1681869

The first one was cold. Let's leave it alone!

 

[Treadwell]

I have seen zero of Knight's work so I have no opinion...

 

[HeartBlade]

The first one was cold. Let's leave it alone!

Space is very cold. First one is a grower and the second a shower.

Luckily, in space, no one can see you.

 

[Captain Dunsel]

Something I’ve never figured out…

To ensure human survival in space, in a non-Star Wars galaxy, requires a pressurized suit, etc.

But to ensure human survival in space (within an asteroid), in the Star Wars galaxy, requires only street clothes and a loose-fitting mask.

Well, or just the “Will of the Force”…

 

[Sluis Van Shipyards]

Something I’ve never figured out…

To ensure human survival in space, in a non-Star Wars galaxy, requires a pressurized suit, etc.

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But to ensure human survival in space (within an asteroid), in the Star Wars galaxy, requires only street clothes and a loose-fitting mask.

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Well, or just the “Will of the Force”…

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If I recall, I read something that the asteroid had some atmosphere inside. If it had gases trapped inside it could heat up and release some of it to provide an atmosphere.

 

[Captain Dunsel]

If I recall, I read something that the asteroid had some atmosphere inside. If it had gases trapped inside it could heat up and release some of it to provide an atmosphere.

Hmmmmmm….

I was leaning more towards the blanket “it’s the Will of the Force” explanation.

 

[blewis17]

I have seen zero of Knight's work so I have no opinion...

...but this is the internet, where you must have and share your opinion on EVERY subject, despite your lack of knowledge about that subject.

 

[Treadwell]

"your target is a small thermal exhaust port, right below the main port."

WTH is this "main port"?

 

[ghostryder]

I know it's old, but still find this interesting...

George Lucas Felt Upset and Betrayed When Disney Wouldn't Use His Ideas For the New Star Wars Trilogy

Maybe it's for the best, though.

www.esquire.com

At some point in the process, George told me that he had completed outlines for three new movies. He agreed to send us three copies of the outlines: one for me; one for [Walt Disney Company Senior Executive Vice President, General Counsel and Secretary] Alan Braverman; and one for [Co-Chairman and Chief Creative Officer, Walt Disney Studios] Alan Horn, who’d just been hired to run our studio. Alan Horn and I read George’s outlines and decided we needed to buy them, though we made clear in the purchase agreement that we would not be contractually obligated to adhere to the plot lines he’d laid out.

He knew that I was going to stand firm on the question of creative control, but it wasn’t an easy thing for him to accept. And so he reluctantly agreed to be available to consult with us at our request. I promised that we would be open to his ideas (this was not a hard promise to make; of course we would be open to George Lucas’ ideas), but like the outlines, we would be under no obligation.

"Later, Iger, Lucas, screenwriter Michael Arndt, and Lucasfilm President Kathleen Kennedy had a meeting at Skywalker Ranch to “talk about their ideas for the film.”"

George immediately got upset as they began to describe the plot and it dawned on him that we weren’t using one of the stories he submitted during the negotiations...The truth was, Kathy, [The Force Awakens writer-director] J.J. [Abrams], Alan, and I had discussed the direction in which the saga should go, and we all agreed that it wasn’t what George had outlined. George knew we weren’t contractually bound to anything, but he thought that our buying the story treatments was a tacit promise that we’d follow them, and he was disappointed that his story was being discarded,” Iger continues. “I’d been so careful since our first conversation not to mislead him in any way, and I didn’t think I had now, but I could have handled it better. I should have prepared him for the meeting with J.J. and Michael and told him about our conversations, that we felt it was better to go in another direction. I could have talked through this with him and possibly avoided angering him by not surprising him ... Now, in the first meeting with him about the future of Star Wars, George felt betrayed, and while this whole process would never have been easy for him, we’d gotten off to an unnecessarily rocky start.

 

[Iskelderon]

The bit about the sequel ideas has always been a double-edged sword.
What Lucas had in mind sounded too much like expanding the good setup in Rebels into the territory of the Midichlorian train wreck and we all know what Disney's plan (or the lack of one) was. It's more like having to decide which way they wanted to ram it into the ground.
Only upside would've been that Lucas' version would come with an actual arc, rather than three movies that all did a U-turn and threw at least half of the previous movie's efforts in the trash.

 

[batguy]

The prequels always existed in George's mind in the creative sense. I don't think the sequels ever really did. That's based on a lot of his comments & actions over the years.

Look at the old EU material. He always let other authors screw around with the storyline after ROTJ. He never let them mess with the decades leading up to ANH. That's telling.


Would George's sequel outlines have worked out better than the sequels Disney made? Yeah, probably. But that's a low bar. I'm saying his sequels came entirely from the modern-day George Lucas. The 1970s George Lucas was not involved. Even if they did get made in the future I would keep my expectations firmly in check.