Lets talk all things Star Wars

[Sluis Van Shipyards]

Yeah, in a fb group someone was asking what all the helmet symbols meant, and someone had an in-universe answer, which is fine, but all I could think was "the prop guy thought a circle-swirl thing would look cool right there".

In one of moffeaton's RPF videos he mentioned people being hung up on the exact colors of the filming models. People try to color match the models now which are most likely faded and not the exact color when they were filmed. He said he mentioned that to one of the original ILM guys (Lorne Peterson?) and they pretty much said to paint it however you think it should look. They weren't that precious about the meaning of things or colors the way we obsess over them.

 

[Psab keel]

Same with the props. I think of the V2 during the production of ROTJ vs how it looks today in Brandon Alinger's collection.

 

[Joek3rr]

Same with the props. I think of the V2 during the production of ROTJ vs how it looks today in Brandon Alinger's collection.

Uh huh. It bothers me just a bit that more people don't try to emulate the way it looks in the film. Just a tiny bit, though.

 

[Ron]

I used to revere the V3's paint scheme. When I learned it was done post production and not actually that way on-screen, it was kind of a bummer. It mostly killed my enthusiasm for it as a prop replica.

 

[ScourgiousJinx]

These are all reasons why when fans scoff at other fans for having an idealized version of a prop vs the most screen accurate it's always slightly amusing and screams childhood memories of "my bike is better than yours!" I'm all for screen accurate, have many that are as close as possible. but also have a bunch of sabers that are idealized. It's all in personal preference.

I saw a Luke ROTJ MOM that had been weathered and painted as if it was a few thousand years older, had been well used by many Jedi and altered slightly several times over the centuries. Not entirely accurate but what a cool idea. I'm tempted to do something like this with one of my MOM Lukes or a V2 that I don't particularly care for.

 

[Joek3rr]

These are all reasons why when fans scoff at other fans for having an idealized version of a prop vs the most screen accurate it's always slightly amusing and screams childhood memories of "my bike is better than yours!" I'm all for screen accurate, have many that are as close as possible. but also have a bunch of sabers that are idealized. It's all in personal preference.

I saw a Luke ROTJ MOM that had been weathered and painted as if it was a few thousand years older, had been well used by many Jedi and altered slightly several times over the centuries. Not entirely accurate but what a cool idea. I'm tempted to do something like this with one of my MOM Lukes or a V2 that I don't particularly care for.

I definitely love both screen accurate, and also idealized replicas. There's a time and place for both.

 

[Halliwax]

Uh huh. It bothers me just a bit that more people don't try to emulate the way it looks in the film. Just a tiny bit, though.

Cough cough…

 

[Sluis Van Shipyards]

I don't really care about screen accurate as far as I'm more for having a replica of Han's Blaster, not the Han Solo Blaster prop. I've seen people here replicate blank spots where the detail parts obviously fell off in the last 39 years or so (Mer Sonn Blaster). I don't get it. That's not even replicating the prop, that's replicating the prop stored in the Archives.

 

[Psab keel]

I certainly respect the dedication to replicate every scratch, dent, warp, etc of certain props, but I do I prefer a mix of idealized items along with accurate ones. Lineage pieces are cool, but that's far beyond my budget or interest. Where I tend to draw the line for accuracy with costumes or props is if it's going to make the item useable or not. For example, a thin neck saber may have a thicker neck to make it dueling worthy. I only have a handful of items that are display only. I take the approach that a prop should be able to be handled and used as a prop, not just an expensive decoration. I take very good care of the pieces of my collection, but I also try to remember not to be too precious with them either. Props and costumes should serve the function they were designed for, even if it's a replica.

 

[CB2001]

An analysis of The Mandalorian, from its influences, it’s analysis on mythology and it’s breakdown of Mando‘s journey as a character. I definitely recommend checking it out.

 

[Eruonen]

An analysis of The Mandalorian, from its influences, it’s analysis on mythology and it’s breakdown of Mando‘s journey as a character. I definitely recommend checking it out.

I need to find some time to watch this. His essays on TCW were amazing.

 

[Halliwax]

I certainly respect the dedication to replicate every scratch, dent, warp, etc of certain props, but I do I prefer a mix of idealized items along with accurate ones. Lineage pieces are cool, but that's far beyond my budget or interest. Where I tend to draw the line for accuracy with costumes or props is if it's going to make the item useable or not. For example, a thin neck saber may have a thicker neck to make it dueling worthy. I only have a handful of items that are display only. I take the approach that a prop should be able to be handled and used as a prop, not just an expensive decoration. I take very good care of the pieces of my collection, but I also try to remember not to be too precious with them either. Props and costumes should serve the function they were designed for, even if it's a replica.

This is actually my concern right now with wannawanga’s dv6 kit

The way the vader stunt is today.. it’s in such hard shape if I replicated it and put it in my display case, people coming over would think I’m a hack..

It’s that reason why I think I’m going to idealize it.. keep it cleaner then what it is today

There is a point where it’s art.. but the shape it’s in today is just neglect…

 

[Psab keel]

I hear you Halliwax. Replication is a balancing act between what we know of a prop from the time of production and the condition said prop is in today. Which, for my personal collection is sort of a mixture of both. Like I said above, I very much respect and admire the dedication you and the other amazing artists here take to replicate each detail.

Some of the props current condition is in, like you said, either neglect, or disintegration depending on the materials used. It's ironic that fans will use premium materials, careful measuring, and agonize over the smallest detail, only to weather a prop down to make all these new materials look old and used. It's also ironic that the props used in the films were slapped together by a rushed production, with little regard other than finishing the movie, where we tend to obsess over these things. There is an element of self awareness that I think is lost on a lot of us at times.

 

[ghostryder]

 

[JoeG]

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Is this one titled "Going To The RPF Prop Party"?

 

[blewis17]

New Question: Why didn't Han just pay off Jabba the Hutt?

At the end of the original Star Wars, when the rebel pilots are running to their spacecraft, Luke chides Han for not staying and helping. Han and Chewie are loading up the "reward" for freeing Princess Leia; I would guess much more than the additional 15,000 Obi-Wan promised Han back at the Cantina. Han mentions to Luke he has debt(s) to pay off with the reward (remember that Han originally asked for 10,000, then Obi-Wan promised 2,000 up front plus 15,000 extra when they reached Alderaan).

So... why didn't he? And certainly, AFTER the Battle of Yavin IV, when Han received his medal and he decided to hang around and assist the Rebellion, why would NOT the Rebellion pay off Han's debt to Jabba for him? (And yes, there is the throwaway line in TESB where Han mentions the bounty hunter he ran into on Ord Mantell and the debt he was leaving to go pay).

 

[Treadwell]

Something always got in the way. There are numerous (and conflicting) stories in the old EU about him about to go do so, and something happening to prevent it. In at least one of them, his payment got stolen and so he had to find a way to amass more first.

 

[Psab keel]

It seems implied that his involvement with the Rebellion took precedence and he kept putting it off. I imagine setting up a new base at Hoth wasn't exactly a quick process either. Though Jabba confronting Han face to face in the SE does seems rather silly in retrospect when you consider he put a bounty on Solo and then freely negotiated with Han to repay him? Usually if you're going to put a price on someone's head you're past the point of bargaining.

If Jabba was serious he would have taken the Falcon then and there or taken Solo in himself.

 

[Treadwell]

There was also the undercurrent of deep down he wanted to do the noble thing and continue to help the Rebels (not to mention woo a princess) so he kept finding reasons to put it off.

 

[Halliwax]

New Question: Why didn't Han just pay off Jabba the Hutt?

At the end of the original Star Wars, when the rebel pilots are running to their spacecraft, Luke chides Han for not staying and helping. Han and Chewie are loading up the "reward" for freeing Princess Leia; I would guess much more than the additional 15,000 Obi-Wan promised Han back at the Cantina. Han mentions to Luke he has debt(s) to pay off with the reward (remember that Han originally asked for 10,000, then Obi-Wan promised 2,000 up front plus 15,000 extra when they reached Alderaan).

So... why didn't he? And certainly, AFTER the Battle of Yavin IV, when Han received his medal and he decided to hang around and assist the Rebellion, why would NOT the Rebellion pay off Han's debt to Jabba for him? (And yes, there is the throwaway line in TESB where Han mentions the bounty hunter he ran into on Ord Mantell and the debt he was leaving to go pay).

i always took it as Han making poor life choices.. instead of paying off debt, he rather drink his day away and chase chicks