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Trevorrow Tie-Fighter:

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Looks like it operates like the ship Spock used to transport the Red Matter in JJ's first Trek movie.
 
I watched R1 over the weekend, and, wow, was the empire stupid.

-Lets store all our plans, essentially in hard copy, on one planet
-Lets stick them in a giant column where you have to manually grab a physical hard drive with a remote control and bring it to you...
-...at which point you have to find somewhere to plug it in to access it's contents.
-not to mention, you just need to break the glass and you could blast away tons of drives worth of data, but hey, it has a giant vault door!
-Anyone can seemingly climb to the very top of the tower where there's a convenient station there for you to plug in your drive and can email it wherever you like!
-If you need to adjust the dish, there's a giant plank extending way over the edge, just because!
-Why is a master communications switch outside, not really near anything, requiring no shred of security to access?

Seemed to me a well, in ANH, Tarkin didn't believe they found a flaw in the station, yet, he blows up the whole place to keep them from getting the plans.
 
cboath said:
I watched R1 over the weekend, and, wow, was the empire stupid.

-Lets store all our plans, essentially in hard copy, on one planet
-Lets stick them in a giant column where you have to manually grab a physical hard drive with a remote control and bring it to you...
-...at which point you have to find somewhere to plug it in to access it's contents.
-not to mention, you just need to break the glass and you could blast away tons of drives worth of data, but hey, it has a giant vault door!
-Anyone can seemingly climb to the very top of the tower where there's a convenient station there for you to plug in your drive and can email it wherever you like!
-If you need to adjust the dish, there's a giant plank extending way over the edge, just because!
-Why is a master communications switch outside, not really near anything, requiring no shred of security to access?

Seemed to me a well, in ANH, Tarkin didn't believe they found a flaw in the station, yet, he blows up the whole place to keep them from getting the plans.
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Alternative being? Store them on the Imperial network? Or put them on multiple planets?
 
Rogue One is overrated. You watch, as time goes on people will start to really see how awful the Disney Era stuff really is.
 
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Joek3rr said:
Alternative being? Store them on the Imperial network? Or put them on multiple planets?
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You clearly don't work in IT :)

The way it was explained, that was basically the only backup. ALL imperial backups are apparently blown to hell now. You never maintain just 1 backup because too many things can go wrong - though, admittedly, having the planet blown up never crossed my mind - there'd be bigger issues to deal with at that point :)

Yet...somehow, there had to be another set of plans and someone a billion times smarter than Erso worked it. From no plans left, to completely redesigned and built in roughly 4 years! :)
 
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Well, let's face it. If you really want to nit-pick stupid plans, the OT is rife with them. None of it holds up under that kind of scrutiny.
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I consider nitpicking, looking for things that are wrong. These jumped right out at me watching it.

I still like R1. Best of the Disney era, though, that's a bit of a low bar. Nothing in the OT or prequels jumped out as being that obvious to me, but whatever.

But if you wanna get really picky i guess Starkiller base just doesn't work. The thing would need to be closer to a sun than mercury is to ours to suck it dry - and you'd burn everything off that sucker pdq - and there'd definitely wouldn't be snow :)
 
I get some of the complaints, but I'll believe the people who made Rogue One had actually seen the OT. I don't believe anyone on the Sequels did. It feels like SW.
 
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You can nit pick all you want, whether new or old. I just find it interesting that in order to defend the new material some fans need to constantly pick apart the old ones.
 
Psab keel said:
You can nit pick all you want, whether new or old. I just find it interesting that in order to defend the new material some fans need to constantly pick apart the old ones.
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Because the nitpicking always seems to be about the new movies, not the old. Nobody scrutinizes the OT's story or plots half as much as they do the new movies. Nobody talks about how half-baked Han's rescue from Jabba was. Nobody complains that ESB is ruined because the time framing makes no sense. And even if they do, these things get hand waved and justified. The truth is the OT seems to get a pass for anything, while everything else simply doesn't.
 
The reason the minor flaws of the old movies are often explained away is because they are just that, minor, and aren't so glaring that they ruin the story being told. The criticisms of the new films are not nitpicks. Addressing major problems with the narrative or continuity of the new films in context to the old (this is a series after all) is the basis on which fans like me build my stance. That's not nitpicking. That's simply pointing out the lackluster writing, from which everything else trickles down.

I saw that you necroposted The Last Jedi thread to point out an observation about it. More power to you and Joek3rr for loving that movie and to any fan for enjoying the ST. I just wanted better for this story and I think they really dropped the ball.
 
Psab keel said:
The reason the minor flaws of the old movies are often explained away is because they are just that, minor, and aren't so glaring that they ruin the story being told. The criticisms of the new films are not nitpicks. Addressing major problems with the narrative or continuity of the new films in context to the old (this is a series after all) is the basis on which fans like me build my stance. That's not nitpicking. That's simply pointing out the lackluster writing, from which everything else trickles down.

I saw that you necroposted The Last Jedi thread to point out an observation about it. More power to you and Joek3rr for loving that movie and to any fan for enjoying the ST. I just wanted better for this story and I think they really dropped the ball.
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But it this case, being Rogue One, it's different. Sure we can nit pick how the Imperials act in that movie. But at the same time are we going to ignore that in the ANH, the Imperials aren't much smarter? I mean you'd think someone would have have cut our heroes off instead of just chasing them. Don't they have security cameras and other kinds of sensors? And no back up systems for the tractor beams? No warning systems to tell them the power is down?

Those are, in my opinion some valid nit picks. But they are only nit picks. And I realize that if the Imperials were really efficient, our heroes wouldn't have stood a chance.

And you know I'm sure there are some valid objective criticisms for the new films. But most are either subjective criticisms, or just the "Jar Jar Effect" at play.
 
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