Lets talk all things Star Wars

[CT1138]

Prose in SW is very cheap and comicy. It's intended that way. It's meant to sound like some sappy daytime soap opera. As Harrison Ford once said, "George, you can type this **** but you sure as Hell can't say it." The dialogue in Star Wars is crap, and always has been. It comes with the territory of being a soap opera in space. The laser sword fights might be cool, and the spaceships go pew pew, but at the end of the day even the most iconic line sounds like it could have come out of General Hospital.

 

[Psab keel]

I concede that the dialog is not very strong. Memorable? Sometimes. Strong? No. I'm not sure if the dialog is meant to be sappy soap opera type stuff, but I suppose it could come across that way.

Star Wars has always been driven by the visuals anyway and the dialog has always been secondary.

But those lines were bad. Even for Star Wars. Like cringe inducingly bad. As bad as Anakin and Padme's word barf as they are sitting on the balcony in ROTS. Even when I liked the prequels I cringed in the theater listening to those lines. It's made for some funny jokes though!

 

[Joek3rr]

I concede that the dialog is not very strong. Memorable, sometimes. Strong? No. I'm not sure if the dialog is meant to be sappy soap opera type stuff, but I suppose it could come across that way.

But those lines were bad. Even for Star Wars. Like cringe inducingly bad.

They're meant to prophecies, probably written down by some old Jedi after meditating. lol Think of how Star Trek has techno mumbo jumbo, well Star Wars has religious mumbo jumbo.

 

[Psab keel]

Or written by a twelve year old.

 

[sztriki]

‘When the kyber that is not kyber shines forth, the time of prophecy will be at hand.’

What I'm wondering about is where did the Jedi get the notion that the Chosen One would destroy the Sith?

George Lucas changed his mind midway, that’s where. The prophecy was referred to in TPM already and in the same scene they pretty much discredited the existence of the Sith.

 

[Psab keel]

That's why doing multiple drafts of a script are important.

 

[d_jedi1]

I remember when Star Wars was cool & Star Trek was nerdy

J

(shrug) I'm not sure where you grew up but in my hometown, they were BOTH lambasted as Nerdy.
nerd for life!

 

[Joek3rr]

(shrug) I'm not sure where you grew up but in my hometown, they were BOTH lambasted as Nerdy.
nerd for life!

Same here. To be honest, I don't think Star Wars was ever been generally accepted as "cool" before the Big Sale. From what I've seen, Disney has made it cool to be a Star Wars fan. I only get weird looks from my cousins when I wear my Star Wars shirts. It's really amazing. Just a couple of years ago, I found out my aunt was kinda nerdy! She's loves Star Trek and Star Wars! I had no idea. She's never talked about before, probably for fear she'd be made fun of. The rest of the family are real hiking, hunting, fishing, outdoor types, and don't understand our love for these things. They think we're "weird and nerdy."

 

[d_jedi1]

I graduated HS in 97.
Before the 2009 films, I had no idea that so many of my high-school classmates were closet trekkies.
AFTER that movie came out, they were all willing to talk about Trek and not only knew surface level stuff but minutae.
You mean that you ******** held back and MOCKED me and my group of friends in HS for watching Trek.. meanwhile you were in every bit as deep as WE WERE?!
We could have been discussing it as equals!!
Anyway, we're all cool now but it was disappointing to learn that they'd not only held back but actively mocked... while they were closeted fans.

 

[DARTH ANIBAL]

I don't get that at all. Why hide it? I've always been loud and proud about all my geekiness, and I was still fairly popular in high school.

 

[Jaitea]

(shrug) I'm not sure where you grew up but in my hometown, they were BOTH lambasted as Nerdy.
nerd for life!

I was 9 in 78 (had to wait till Jan 78 before I saw in Uk)....back then there was Space:1999, Star Trek, Doctor Who etc....all considered a bit nerdy....but Star Wars came along and everyone went to see it....the nerds & the tough kids....that lasted through all of the OT......I remember in the 80’s one of the hardest guys in my science class asking the teacher about magnetically shields (trash compactor)

It’s exactly like how EVERYONE is into the Marvel films

It was the Prequels & EU that made it nerdy

J

 

[Bigdaddy]

I never got hassled about being a SW fan, a bit for reading all the time (we didn't have TV for my first 3 years in HS) and my habit of wearing glasses with no lenses (it was the 80s man!). Being big for my age probably helped keep the bullies at bay.

 

[Laspector]

I got hassled a LOT for anything even remotely related to "that space nonsense!"

 

[d_jedi1]

See, I'm not 100% sure about the prequels and EU because, like I mentioned, I graduated two years before Episode 1.
The Special Editions released around the time of my high school graduation.

 

[Jaitea]

Back when I was a kid, there was Walrus Man, Hammerhead, Snow Speeders, Imperial Walkers & Chicken Walkers,.....now you get corrected by "I think you'll find..." guys

Star Wars was accessible, relatable,.....for everyone,....the closest we got back to that was TFA

Now, I'm not so sure,....I don't think there's as much excitement, my two kids don't want to see any more SW,....I'll go on my own,...probably

Both of mine & I have seen all Marvel films together on opening night since Ragnarok,....

J

 

[Joek3rr]

 

[Halliwax]

I got hassled a LOT for anything even remotely related to "that space nonsense!"

Your not alone man...

 

[ThreadSketch]

I have a...complicated relationship with Star Wars when it comes to my mother. I fell off the fandom deep end when I was 12, and I was the epitome of a selfish spoiled brat - I didn't care about how difficult it was for her as an impoverished widow, all I wanted was her wallet so that I could blow it on Waldenbooks getting EU novels and comics and guidebooks every weekend. Even when she got back into the workforce once I was in high school, I continued just spending all of her hard-earned money on my fandom crap, and she indulged me because I was her only child, I had virtually no friends, and my health sucked.

When I ran off to a too-expensive college with a small trust fund I didn't deserve, I didn't become any more mature; I kept spending money like water and partying my fangirl heart out, collecting pricey SW coffee table books, prop replicas and costumes, and even buying Mark Hamill some flowers. (Another long story.) Now that I'm older and way more exhausted and downtrodden, I don't blame my mother for being bitter about my fandom obsession. It was stupid of me to dive into it to the point where I lacked the wisdom to concern myself over building a decent life first, then enjoying myself. Star Wars is a lifelong reminder of how badly I screwed myself over, and it makes both of us struggle to this day. If I'd been more financially responsible, she wouldn't be suffering as much as she is now, because I'm her primary caretaker - she's up **** creek with me.

She knows how much I love SW and she tolerates it up to a point, she can joke about it with me and she finds a few things cute (mainly the droids and Chewie). But boy, she will never let me live down the Hamill flowers to this day.

Sometimes I wish I'd never gotten obsessed with SW, but I can't help it - it's who I am. I have an obsessive nature, I'm bound to fixate on something, if not that. I mean, better this than drugs and alcohol, etc., she gets that. But I even tried to leave fandom behind for about 4 years and it just...crept back in. I guess it's here to stay for good. It's a weed that can't be uprooted. I love SW and I'll never be able to not love it.

 

[Psab keel]

There's nothing wrong with loving a story like this, but I'm sorry it had such a detrimental effect on your life and your mother's life. Part of it may just be growing up. I mean we all have things in our lives that we regret in the sense that we are too selfish to see beyond our own desires as kids. That extends into our teen years as well and often it gets worse at that time. Though hopefully, and you obviously have, grown out of that selfishness and can see how it has impacted your mother. Some people go through their whole lives and NEVER have that self awareness to realize that their choices impact others, whether for good or ill.

On a positive note you and your mom are still in each other's lives. Even if it makes things difficult sometimes, the fact that you can laugh about some things is certainly a sign that time can heal all wounds. Plus if you are an only child, I have no doubt that your mother loves you very much and the fact you are taking care of her means you must love her a great deal too.

None of us are perfect. I know I'm certainly not!

If you love Star Wars, love it! I too have to temper my desire to buy/ make everything Star Wars when it comes to costumes and props, but the reality is that I only have so much time to work on things or money to spend and that keeps me grounded. It also helps to remind myself that I could easily have more stuff if I really wanted to, but in the end would it make me any happier? No.

As long as you keep that self awareness and stay positive, I think you can have a healthy fandom that gives you satisfaction and also doesn't cause problems for you in the future.

 

[patrickivan]

I was 9 in 78 (had to wait till Jan 78 before I saw in Uk)....back then there was Space:1999, Star Trek, Doctor Who etc....all considered a bit nerdy....but Star Wars came along and everyone went to see it....the nerds & the tough kids....that lasted through all of the OT......I remember in the 80’s one of the hardest guys in my science class asking the teacher about magnetically shields (trash compactor)

It’s exactly like how EVERYONE is into the Marvel films

It was the Prequels & EU that made it nerdy

J

What? Blake's 7 didn't make your list?