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Mara Jade's Father
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BTW, if anyone is interested. I have a little Star Wars facebook page. I use it to separate my Star Wars enthusiasm from my regular fb page. It's geared toward rebel/resistance general info and passing on the general Star Wars news. If you are interested, check it out.... Dewback Wing
Mara Jade's Father
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Tonight’s Star Wars Day dinner... Death Star Waffles with breaded Bantha strips flavored with Endor tree sap.
^ +1 I've liked your stuff for ages, across many platforms. I recommend Mara Jade's Father's thoughts on Star Wars. Hey, MJF, this look familiar?
DiggsBarklightr
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May the 4th be with you all. Watching tv, nothing to see here...move along.
Mara Jade's Father
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Yep. Thats one of my imperial wing pin. I did the original design way back around 2002 or 2003. I still very proud of the way they turned out.
Mara Jade's Father
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Star Wars Day dessert: blue bantha milk frosties.
ThreadSketch
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Got all my groceries today in Mom's beaded X-wing jacket. Got her one compliment from a Wal-Mart employee - mission accomplished. 
BipeFlyer
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Me, too -- well, I mean, not "proud, but yeah, they're gorgeous and I knew as soon as I saw them I needed one (later got one for a friend, too). I've seen other interpretations of Imperial flight wings over the years, but yours is far and away the best, IMO.
BipeFlyer
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That's hilarious!The odds of this happening to a family in star Wars shirts are less than successfully navigating an asteroid field! I'm still geeking out over it!
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Joek3rr
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But that's just it. Vader doesn't threaten to kill her. He simply suggests that she may turn to the Dark Side. "If you will not turn to the Dark Side, then perhaps she will." "NEVER!!!" Its not like he has vision of everything he loves being destroyed. Like he has with Ben.
I don't think a lot of people get this. But Luke's willingness to run off and "help" his friends. Isn't presented as a virtue as much as a vice. It seems counterintuitive. But every time Luke tries to "help" his friends, it brings him closer to the Dark Side. Look at ESB, he goes to "help" his friends, but he gets distracted by his anger towards Vader. In the end his friends are the ones that help him. In ROTJ he's using the Force to choke, yikes! He tries split the Emperor in half. And he nearly kills his father. In TLJ he draws his lightsaber on his sleeping nephew.
This theme of saving your loved ones no matter what it costs your soul, is the focus of the PT. Look at what Anakin tells Palpatine. "I will do whatever ever you ask.......Just help me save Padmé's life." Anakin ignores what Yoda tells him. "The fear of loss is a path to the Dark Side." "I wont let these visions come true, Master Yoda."......"Attachment leads to jealousy. The shadow of greed that is." "What must I do Master Yoda?" "Train yourself to let go....of everything you fear to lose."
Which brings to the real meat and potatoes of Anakin and Luke. As you probably already know. Star Wars was heavily influenced by the works of Joseph Campbell. He says something that pertains to Anakin and Luke. This is an excerpt from the 'Power of Myth' with Bill Moyers.
"I will participate in the game. It’s a wonderful, wonderful opera, except that it hurts. And that wonderful Irish saying, you know, “Is this a private fight, or can anybody get into it?” This is the way life is, and the hero is the one who can participate in it decently, in the way of nature, not in the way of personal rancor, revenge or anything of the kind." - Joseph Campbell
You see here is the problem with Luke and Anakin. They act out of personal rancor and revenge. Their wants drive them. It's a very fine line that must be walked. The helping of their loved ones isn't done out a simple compassionate love for life, but ultimately out selfish possessive love(lust). This is very clear with Anakin. Less so with Luke, but that fact that Luke acts on his anger and hate shows that this is the case. But look at what Joseph says makes the hero. "...and the hero is the one who can participate in it decently, in the way of nature(I think we could easily replace nature with the Force here)..." This is what the whole climax of TLJ is about. Luke goes from two extremes. First it's "helping" you friends no matter what, by diving into the thick of it no matter how dirty your hands get. To "helping" your friends by staying out of it completely, because he feels he's causing more harm then good. But in the end he finds the balance between the two. He finds a way to participate decently. He's learned how to be there, while not actually being there. He's learned how to fight Ben, without actually fighting Ben. He's unable to harm Ben, and Ben is unable to harm Luke. Luke is the true hero as he has learned how to participate decently in the way of the Force.
Joek3rr
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This year my girlfriend and her brother made mini pizzas with pepperoni cut to look like the Alliance starbird. She made a pot pie that had a porg face on the front. And a apple pie that looked like the Death Star. And to top off she came up with own concoction for Thala-siren milk.
Unfortunately she didn't like how her pies turned out, so she wouldn't let me take pictures of them.
Unfortunately she didn't like how her pies turned out, so she wouldn't let me take pictures of them.
You put way more thought into connecting the film's than George, Rian or JJ ever have. On that I applaud you but while these movies were made with some cohesiveness in mind they weren't to the extent you're suggesting so to think there is some grand plan to all of it gives any of them far more credit than they deserve.
The fact that the special editions exist and George made changes to the OT with every release including the blurays in 2011 until he sold his company (2012) is proof that he simply kept changing his mind about his work rather than having a grand plan from the beginning. He may have had the broad strokes but he wrote on the fly more than you want to believe and it would have been more honest for George to admit he changed his mind rather than claim it was his original vision.
Which version was the original vision because it can't be all of them? Constant sourcing George's ideas as evidence for your arguments is not always the best for your defense because he is so fickle with his answers.
I still have to applaud your willingness to try and see a "larger world" even if it's just a fan's hope.
The fact that the special editions exist and George made changes to the OT with every release including the blurays in 2011 until he sold his company (2012) is proof that he simply kept changing his mind about his work rather than having a grand plan from the beginning. He may have had the broad strokes but he wrote on the fly more than you want to believe and it would have been more honest for George to admit he changed his mind rather than claim it was his original vision.
Which version was the original vision because it can't be all of them? Constant sourcing George's ideas as evidence for your arguments is not always the best for your defense because he is so fickle with his answers.
I still have to applaud your willingness to try and see a "larger world" even if it's just a fan's hope.
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Reading this makes me want pizza.. haven’t had a slice in over a year.... damn it
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