Lets talk all things Star Wars

[CopperRevan]

So, i just found out that Ewen McGregor got his star on the walk of fame...upon which Hayden Christensen took to the mic, complaining why he wasn't granted his by the Council...(I'm completely joking)

 

[greenmachines]

Now you've taken the imagery and provoked me down a path that digs deeper into the message and the story...lol. It is much deeper than meets the eye and it's a silent film, which by nature, forces your mind to think and all i can say is...Very prophetic film of our world today on so many different levels and clearly a callback to Revelation chapter 17. (the woman that rides the beast). One thing films lack today is 'Intrigue'. As these themes circle around in my mind i can't help thinking that films of yesteryear reflected the thoughts of the generation yet, in my view, looked ways ahead, whereas films of today, which also reflect its own generation, sort of stagnate in a swamp of despondency. To properly wrap my thought up on this subject, it makes total sense as (talking about AI) that the reason for such despondency is that, as a society, the technology has replaced the heart and soul of a person and a people and no wonder the lack of vision. Where lack of vision is, the people perish.

As "Metropolis" points to,or is predictive of, society becomes so enthralled by a technological image, preceded by apathy and a lack of moral foundation beyond 'self', that calls to them like a siren to worship this image and to exalt it, thereby enslaving themselves to it. In other words, when you've arrived at the pinnacle of the imagery (AI) it is still not enough to please people, it must be ascribed to something tangible.( which is proven through many addictions). So, because mankind can't really create because he was created, for he can only re-create what already exists, the pinnacle of his re-creation would be a technologically built person with AI imagery. For one man/machine to have all known information at its disposal for immediate use and to have its' creators (Mankind) bow down to it, it would be the ultimate pinnacle of mankinds fall, as what started in his heart has now been revealed "in the flesh" and he now worships the creation of his own hands. A societal Mystery Tower of Babel, if you will, to exalt 'self' above all and worship mankinds greatest achievement as man declares himself to be the ultimate authority in the universe. Any who dare oppsose this is deemed an immediate threat and labeled as "evil" and the natural result of this is death as the persecutors bask in their drunkenness, believing themselves to be the ultimate good.

You must have something physical in order to understand something spiritually and just as there was a physical tower of Babel back in Genesis chapter 11, there is a spiritual or "Mystery" tower of babel predicted in Revelation chapter 17. ( These scriptual references were just swirling in my head and are being used to support my thoughts on this)

The thing that blows my mind on this is that Fritz Lang was supposedly an atheist but believed religion to be useful for teaching ethics. If Metropolis was any inspiration at all to George Lucas, it becomes very indicative of Anakin Skywalkers fall and the overrall deception by Palpatine. Keeping in mind, Metropolis being in the 1920's, appeared before the rise of Adolph Hitler and WW2, all of which themes are incorporated into the Star Wars universe. Lucas, of course, has openly stated his religious themes and inspirations that were woven in as well. The expression of thought or theme by both Lang and Lucas still hinges on good and evil, not ambiguity, and provokes the audience to contemplation not conformity. One of the biggest mistakes movies make(not just today) is instead of provoking thought, they try to tell you how to think or are just plain thoughtless anyways.

In the huuuge pile of interviews and documentaries about George and the making of Star Wars there are bread crumbs and mentions of influence. But usually it only gives a false trail. I think this movie (Metropolis) and this music (The Planets) are from the right period to have a profound impact and would be two of the major sources that just feel right when asking why someone would have been inspired, any romantic, to write Star Wars or it's equivalent. Certainly not the only influences and absolutely not plagiarized but definitely a huge chunk of the pie chart. I believe English theatre, another thing mentioned earlier in this thread, had a large part in the way the scenes unfold. WWII is an undeniable influence.

 

[greenmachines]

So, i just found out that Ewen McGregor got his star on the walk of fame...upon which Hayden Christensen took to the mic, complaining why he wasn't granted his by the Council...(Completely joking)

That was a perfectly timed joke by Hayden. That is pure gold.

 

[CopperRevan]

That was a perfectly timed joke by Hayden. That is pure gold.

That was my joke...not Haydens...lol. That was the first thing i thought of when i saw the picture. Had Hayden of actually said that, yes, it would have been pure gold.

 

[greenmachines]

That was my joke...not Haydens...lol. That was the first thing i thought of when i saw the picture. Had Hayden of actually said that, yes, it would have been pure gold.

Then you definitely should have been at the mic, that would be historical/hysterical.

 

[CopperRevan]

Then you definitely should have been at the mic, that would be historical/hysterical.

Thank you...Thank you...yet i sit here on the RPF unpaid to shell out all my material for freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! lol

 

[greenmachines]

Thank you...Thank you...yet i sit here on the RPF unpaid to shell out all my material for freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! lol

I sense you feel "overlooked" by the council....

 

[CopperRevan]

I sense you feel "overlooked" by the council....

"Don't worry Hayden...I will always have the high ground"...ouch!! No, in all seriousness, those two actors are class acts and are highly loved by their audience. I was very surprised the Kenobi show was chosen over a Darth Vader movie starring them both. I'm not sure you know this or not but Hayden actually said that Ewen was "Star Wars Gold". Crazy, your wording about pure gold. lol

 

[Psab keel]

You two are killing me.

Why arent the two of you writing your own comedy series?? Seriously!

 

[CopperRevan]

You two are killing me.

Why arent the two of you writing your own comedy series?? Seriously!

As long as Disney keeps trying to pump out stuff, I'll have all the material I'll ever need...lol. Hmmm.....you know, The CopperRevan Green machines has a nice ring to it....If you wanted to attend a monster truck rally or tag team wrestling event...lol

 

[Psab keel]

I love it! Lol

 

[pengbuzz]

I sense you feel "overlooked" by the council....

"Overlooked by the council"?

I got overlooked by the entire order!

 

[greenmachines]

"Overlooked by the council"?

I got overlooked by the entire order!

My wife has a super power of invisibility. She is overlooked by people all the time. They run into her. They attempt to take her chair and she is still in it. Waiters will get everyone's order but hers. She tells her friends about it and they laugh and mock her and then they go out to eat and pop, it happens. Her friends will say to the waiter, "I think you missed someone." The waiter looks at his pad, looks at everyone at the table and says, "No I think I have them ". "No, you didn't get heeeerrrrrs." The friend is exaggerating the big sweeping arm motion while launching themselves at my wife and finally touching her with an outstretched finger. No joke, the waiter looks down the arm, across the hand, to my wife and then slowly makes eye contact. The look is "Holy cat piles Batman, she IS THERE!!". Apologies follow but they will then not bring her meal, her drink, and finally refills, without being told to by another guest.

I honestly think I would keep that little skill to my bad self and not tell my friends or anyone else. Imagine the stuff you could get away with.

 

[pengbuzz]

My wife has a super power of invisibility. She is overlooked by people all the time. They run into her. They attempt to take her chair and she is still in it. Waiters will get everyone's order but hers. She tells her friends about it and they laugh and mock her and then they go out to eat and pop, it happens. Her friends will say to the waiter, "I think you missed someone." The waiter looks at his pad, looks at everyone at the table and says, "No I think I have them ". "No, you didn't get heeeerrrrrs." The friend is exaggerating the big sweeping arm motion while launching themselves at my wife and finally touching her with an outstretched finger. No joke, the waiter looks down the arm, across the hand, to my wife and then slowly makes eye contact. The look is "Holy cat piles Batman, she IS THERE!!". Apologies follow but they will then not bring her meal, her drink, and finally refills, without being told to by another guest.

I honestly think I would keep that little skill to my bad self and not tell my friends or anyone else. Imagine the stuff you could get away with.

I would, except it tanked my entire artistic career.

So, i just found out that Ewen McGregor got his star on the walk of fame...upon which Hayden Christensen took to the mic, complaining why he wasn't granted his by the Council...(I'm completely joking)

BTW: anyone notice that Hayden is beginning to resemble:

Spoiler

Mel Gibson?

 

[greenmachines]

I would, except it tanked my entire artistic career.


BTW: anyone notice that Hayden is beginning to resemble:

Spoiler

Mel Gibson?

He does.

 

[blewis17]

So, i just found out that Ewen McGregor got his star on the walk of fame...upon which Hayden Christensen took to the mic, complaining why he wasn't granted his by the Council...(I'm completely joking)

The oddest part is, having a star on The Walk of Fame in Hollywood, while an "accomplishment".... certain areas are a skeezy, weird/dirty environment. Kind of like having an honorary plaque for your career mounted on the wall outside the men's toilet.

Walk of shame? Survey describes Hollywood Walk of Fame as ‘grubby' and ‘unsafe'

 

[CopperRevan]

The oddest part is, having a star on The Walk of Fame in Hollywood, while an "accomplishment".... certain areas are a skeezy, weird/dirty environment. Kind of like having an honorary plaque for your career mounted on the wall outside the men's toilet.

Walk of shame? Survey describes Hollywood Walk of Fame as ‘grubby' and ‘unsafe'

So...you're describing the actual physical place right? Could it be an appropriate metaphor? You're not talking about Hollywood in general?

Not to mention, you get walked on the rest of your life...lol. To me, it was a bad idea from the start. Now i'm going to have to research this...lol.

Maybe they should have named it Main Street Mos Eisley. Could Lucas have been referring to Hollywood when he came up with the concept of Mos Eisley? I seriously don't know...just a thought stirred in my mind.

 

[Psab keel]

I've been there. They make it look glamorous on television and in the movies, but the actual area is a total dump. A lot of the strip looks like a Hot Topic store, just with more trash on the streets.

If you go north to Pasadena there are some nicer areas.

 

[Astyanax]

Yep, all true. Wish they'd clean up the area too.

What's true also is that the honored celebrities have to pay for their own star! It's still an honor to be chosen, but not a free one!

 

[CopperRevan]

Yep, all true. Wish they'd clean up the area too.

What's true also is that the honored celebrities have to pay for their own star! It's still an honor to be chosen, but not a free one!

I wonder how many then have refused to have a star there then...not because of not being able to afford it, of course, but just because they don't want one.