Excellent point. At the same time, in the same scene, Han used one to blast the control console and nothing much happened. Yay inconsistency.
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Axlotl
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I wanna blast 'em in half.
Bigdaddy
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That's a great article, considering the point is to argue against the use of JEDI as an acronym for the stated goals. The break down of Vader's breathing and the racial disparities are hilarious!WTH?
Why the Term 'JEDI' Is Problematic for Describing Programs That Promote Justice, Equity, Diversity and Inclusion
They’re meant to be heroes within the Star Wars universe, but the Jedi are inappropriate symbols for justice workwww.scientificamerican.com
Mother of idiots is always pregnant. Scientific proven fact.
From the end of the article:
If you are, like some of the authors of this piece, a longtime fan of Star Wars (or Disney) and have found yourself defensively bristling while reading the paragraphs above, take a moment to consider that response. We suggest that such a reaction reveals how easily Star Wars and JEDI can introduce distractions and confuse conversations. How ready are we to prioritize the cultural dreamscape of the Jedi over the real-world project of social justice? Investing in the term JEDI positions us to apologize for, or explain away, the stereotypes and politics associated with Star Wars and Disney. How eager are we to fight Star Wars’ battles, when that time and energy could be better spent fighting for social justice?
I concur.
Some of the old EU books have talked about that. I think one was talking about how a Jedi couldn't block shots from an AT-ST or E-Web cannon because the kinetic energy would knock even a Jedi back. The Jedi could certainly intercept it, but he'd be thrown back by the impact. It doesn't stop the video games, but someone was thinking about it.
Yeah, the movies show so much inconsistency in the damage from blaster shots . . . it pretty much requires some kind of variable voltage knob on the guns to explain it.
And while we're at it, we still need to figure out how the spaceships & explosions can make audible noise in space.
And while we're at it, we still need to figure out how the spaceships & explosions can make audible noise in space.
HeartBlade
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That article is so ill-informed and dumb, I seriously feel I and everyone else who has laid eyes on that article is now dumber because of it. I award it no points and may Yoda have mercy on its soul.That's a great article, considering the point is to argue against the use of JEDI as an acronym for the stated goals. The break down of Vader's breathing and the racial disparities are hilarious!
From the end of the article:
If you are, like some of the authors of this piece, a longtime fan of Star Wars (or Disney) and have found yourself defensively bristling while reading the paragraphs above, take a moment to consider that response. We suggest that such a reaction reveals how easily Star Wars and JEDI can introduce distractions and confuse conversations. How ready are we to prioritize the cultural dreamscape of the Jedi over the real-world project of social justice? Investing in the term JEDI positions us to apologize for, or explain away, the stereotypes and politics associated with Star Wars and Disney. How eager are we to fight Star Wars’ battles, when that time and energy could be better spent fighting for social justice?
I concur.
But seriously, I cant believe several authors thought this was a good topic worth writing and then get so much wrong.
Riceball
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From what I can recall, most of the time whenever a blaster bolt hits a solid surface it doesn't really do a whole heck of a lot. A little sparking and some smoke and that's pretty much it. When you look at the surface after it was hit there's just a scorch mark but no dents or dings. So, to me, blasters always seemed to have very poor penetration and a .22LR gives most blasters a run for penetration capability.
Well they could easily have the same concepts as gods and heaven/hell. It's just easier for the audience than if they made up a SW version. I would rather them adopt some of the EU swear words. A couple were goofy, but a few worked. It's been a couple years since I read the books, so I can't come up with any right now.
harrisonp
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I think if bugs me because there’s an overall “casualness” to the dialogue in The Mandalorian and the Sequel Films, it lacks the fantasy epic feeling the OT had and ends up seeming more Marvel-esque. There’s specific dialogue in Mando that grates on me every time, one example being Brian Posehns character saying “whole entire planet”. Honestly it seems like whenever any of the comedians are featured it breaks my immersion a bit.
Corellians, at least, have a concept of Hell, per ESB. Not going to get into more speculation than that, because theological discussion.
One of the only times I’m “earthly” connected to the original trilogy..
In ep8 rey is trying to convince luke to train her and she says “the first order will take over everything in weeks” first time we heard time described like that and it just felt too earthy to me..
harrisonp
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Finn also says Starkiller base is powered by “The Sun” and not, “a nearby sun/star” which throws me into Earth brain too. TROS uses hours to describe when Palpatine will attack too. I dislike both of these things
TROS I watched once lol
Bigdaddy
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I don't think it got much "wrong" since so much depends on subjective interpretation of the fiction. I imagine my simplification of Twilight would seem "wrong" to people that are emotionally invested in that story. Though it appears to be about a young ladies choice between bestiality and necrophilia, it's likely more nuanced than that.
The point of the article isn't to breakdown SW, it's to determine whether or not the term JEDI should be applied to real world issues outside of Disney's franchise.
HeartBlade
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in comparison, Firefly did an amazing job by building in-universe slang with “shiny” and using Chinese to curse (also helps get past the censors). Does create an authentic feel.
The article beings with the assertion jedi are white male saviors using phallic symbols (lightsabers), forgetting that many prominent jedi (Mace Windu, Yoda) are not white or (Ashoka, Yaddle) female, let alone human. The jedi are exclusionary in that you need the force to join the organization as a prerequisite and then intense training, something that is unfortunately the basis for any organization.
The alien as nonwhite is true except the OT is a fight against space Nazis which makes aliens part of the good guys. Blaming Star Wars for centering around white men is also silly given the time period the films were made and Hollywood’s attitude. This should be a point held against Hollywood in general as opposed to Star Wars specifically. Also faulting Star Wars for its cultural appropriation by the military industrial complex to sell their ideas isnt the fault of Star Wars but an indicator of its success, that its presence in the cultural subconcious is so strong that it is the best meme to bring up when discussion space defense.
The point of the article isn't to breakdown SW, it's to determine whether or not the term JEDI should be applied.
The argument presented misses a bigger and more interesting point which is the role (and possible drawbacks) of ulitizing popular culture to promote social issues. Although there is a clear benefit (attention grabbing, easy association with justice with positive connotations, etc) there are also potential drawbacks (muddying the message with is touched on, separation between cultural influence and corporate ownership and the resulting implications).
The problem with the article is it gets objective facts wrong from the first sentence which undermines the argument it is trying to make: that the term jedi should not be adopted in the social justice movement.
The article beings with the assertion jedi are white male saviors using phallic symbols (lightsabers), forgetting that many prominent jedi (Mace Windu, Yoda) are not white or (Ashoka, Yaddle) female, let alone human. The jedi are exclusionary in that you need the force to join the organization as a prerequisite and then intense training, something that is unfortunately the basis for any organization.
The alien as nonwhite is true except the OT is a fight against space Nazis which makes aliens part of the good guys. Blaming Star Wars for centering around white men is also silly given the time period the films were made and Hollywood’s attitude. This should be a point held against Hollywood in general as opposed to Star Wars specifically. Also faulting Star Wars for its cultural appropriation by the military industrial complex to sell their ideas isnt the fault of Star Wars but an indicator of its success, that its presence in the cultural subconcious is so strong that it is the best meme to bring up when discussion space defense.
The point of the article isn't to breakdown SW, it's to determine whether or not the term JEDI should be applied.
The argument presented misses a bigger and more interesting point which is the role (and possible drawbacks) of ulitizing popular culture to promote social issues. Although there is a clear benefit (attention grabbing, easy association with justice with positive connotations, etc) there are also potential drawbacks (muddying the message with is touched on, separation between cultural influence and corporate ownership and the resulting implications).
Solo4114
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Meh. The alternative is something like "centon" like the old BSG show, which sounds corny and forced to me. I mean, I accept it on old school BSG because the whole thing was corny and forced and that was kind of its charm. But I don't think that inventing new words to describe units of time or excising earthly slang because it's earthly and not "By all the gods!" or whatever just seems...you know, forced.
Religion has never been a big feature of Star Wars outside of attitudes towards the Force and 3PO being a god to the Ewoks. I think you could introduce it as an aspect of some specific culture (a la the Ewoks, or some other set of attitudes), but it'd be jarring at this point to hear, say, Ithorians talk about their concept of God or some pantheon of gods. (Yeah, yeah, I know, they'd probably be more focused on the natural spirit of their homeworld or something, but what about the guys who moved off-planet?)
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