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Agreed. While one of the familial revelations works for the most part in the OT, even as a kid, after Vader's reveal, I rose my eyebrow at Leia also being Luke's sister. Just more of what I complained about in a previous post about the beginning of making the SW Galaxy smaller. But to be fair, most of ROTJ were bad decisions(brother and sister, Ewoks, etc), since Lucas' head had gotten so big and want to control so much, it's no wonder he didn't want to do any more movies and just wanted to wrap it all up, albeit messily.
 
Not in this case. That's some of the more valid revisionism criticism for Star Wars. Vader and Anakin were originally separate people. Combining them created issues that wouldn't have existed if it had actually been planned out that way before the cameras ever rolled in 1976. Ditto Luke and Leia -- who were different ages -- suddenly having to be twins, since there now wasn't time for Luke's sister to be introduced and developed.

The Prequels just continued that, with what now had to happen -- an in such a limited run-time -- to get us to the state of affairs we saw at the beginning of the film now known as "A New Hope" (more revisionism required by changing plans on the fly).
I completely agree, it's just not relevant to the point being discussed.
 
Wait, wait, wait. You guys are burying the lede here! What is THIS?!

I'm assuming 1 set of 9 here is the movies on Bluray. Another set of 9 is the special features, but what's the third set?! :eek: Also what's this art book here?!

One set standard Blu Ray and the other 4k
 
If only they started out with stuff like this and THEN built up to NEW, non OT character linked movies and just leaving them behind.

Oh wait, they’re only going 200 years back so that means they’ll get to use Yoda....probably more “leaping Kermit” AOTC Yoda too.

They’re not going to get a fair shake or a new “ground zero” until they leave the OT in the distant past or future for SW movies.
 
If only they started out with stuff like this and THEN built up to NEW, non OT character linked movies and just leaving them behind.

Oh wait, they’re only going 200 years back so that means they’ll get to use Yoda....probably more “leaping Kermit” AOTC Yoda too.

They’re not going to get a fair shake or a new “ground zero” until they leave the OT in the distant past or future for SW movies.
As of right now, there's no movies. It's books and comics, and maybe a game in 2021. But I understand it, this meant to be sandbox, for all book writers to play in, seperate from any films.
 
If only they started out with stuff like this and THEN built up to NEW, non OT character linked movies and just leaving them behind.

Oh wait, they’re only going 200 years back so that means they’ll get to use Yoda....probably more “leaping Kermit” AOTC Yoda too.

They’re not going to get a fair shake or a new “ground zero” until they leave the OT in the distant past or future for SW movies.
Yeah here it is from the link.
"This period on the Star Wars timeline will not overlap any of the filmed features or series currently planned for production, giving creators and partners a vast amount of room to tell Star Wars stories with new adventures and original characters."
 
But it is. Granted it's been made one story somewhat retroactively, but it's still one story.
But why isn't it one story? All 3 trilogies deal with the same things, fear, loss, hate, unconditional love. All three have someone from the Skywalker bloodline as a central character(s). All 3 trilogies constitute one story. Just because you don't like one or two of said trilogies, or think them to be unnecessary doesn't change that fact, that they are apart of the larger saga.
By that logic then The Empire Strikes Back, and Return of the Jedi are not apart the story. As the only commonality they have is the marketing seeking to convince people that the stories conceived after the original were always a part of the whole........
You mean how Vader is revealed to be Luke's father retroactively changing what Obi-Wan told Luke. Or Leia being revealed to be Luke's sister, retroactively changing their relationship.
Not in this case. That's some of the more valid revisionism criticism for Star Wars. Vader and Anakin were originally separate people. Combining them created issues that wouldn't have existed if it had actually been planned out that way before the cameras ever rolled in 1976. Ditto Luke and Leia -- who were different ages -- suddenly having to be twins, since there now wasn't time for Luke's sister to be introduced and developed.

The Prequels just continued that, with what now had to happen -- and in such a limited run-time -- to get us to the state of affairs we saw at the beginning of the film now known as "A New Hope" (more revisionism required by changing plans on the fly).

"It's true. All of it."
 
So basically, they are just rebooting the EU?

I never cared for it back then, don't really think I'll care about it now.
 
"What is next for Star Wars"..... What should be NEXT is what is going forward from Rise of Skywalker. I really don't have any interest going further and further back in time. Things need to progress. What happens next should be what is next.

I'm curious to see what develops and hope it's great. We desperately need new great characters and rich storytelling. I'm more a movie guy, but there might be something worth reading here and there.
 
I decided to try the new books and decided James Luceno's Tarkin and Catalyst would be safe because I liked his older books. I was wrong. I'm really slogging through Catalyst, it's bad. Like Crystal Star bad, which is the gold standard of bad for SW novels. So no idea if I will try any other new SW books.
 
So basically, they are just rebooting the EU?

No. There's no such thing as the EU anymore. The thing about the old EU was that it was only canon so long as GL didn't put anything in the films that contradicted it. Everything since 2012 is canon. Whether it be film, tv, novel, comic, or what have you.
 
A lot of stuff from the EU has found its way into new canon. The same will be the case for this new phase. It looks really cool to me. Excited.
 
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It’s happening:


The downfall of Darth Kennedy is next.

Everything is proceeding as I have foreseen....
i heard about that earlier. his reasoning behind it is kinda interesting though.
 
By that logic then The Empire Strikes Back, and Return of the Jedi are not apart the story. As the only commonality they have is the marketing seeking to convince people that the stories conceived after the original were always a part of the whole........

Well. Lucas has said he wrote enough for the whole trilogy but could only film the first 3rd thus creating the need for a trilogy. I'm not saying he had all the detail like Vader being the father or Like and Leia being twins. But my point was the OT was planned as a trilogy since the first film. He wanted to make more. And the PT was planned as well too.
 
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