TheSt.LouisKid
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I hear I'm gonna get one....but I have to wait for Xmas. :unsure
DST WOK PHASER... Who got theirs?!?
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The TMP pics show what I think is a distinctive feature of the prop: the "rim" around the Dilithium Crystal (power button) is HIGH, with a prominent gap or trench between rim and the clear button in the middle.
On the WOK phaser in the Seattle museum, that rim is low just as in the DST, but that item is a "stunt" phaser that's been "heroized" or so is myunderstanding. I do like TMP look tho but if the upcoming DST exclusive repaint just re-uses the WOK mold, the rim will be low again. :unsure
DST is sure to use the same mold as their TWOK. Other than the control panel, electronics, and paint, everything should be identical. This is just an add-on to the production of the TWOK phaser, after all.
I doubt we'll be seeing a truly faithful replica of the original TMP hero from anyone anytime soon.
Actually the TMP control panel is different other than just the colors... where the WOK has got those two white lines (like an "equals" sign), the TMP has got two little brass buttons. Plus there are other differences.
Plenty of things for eFX to get right in their replica. :lol
Plenty of things for eFX to get right in their replica. :lol
The TMP pics show what I think is a distinctive feature of the prop: the "rim" around the Dilithium Crystal (power button) is HIGH, with a prominent gap or trench between rim and the clear button in the middle.
On the WOK phaser in the Seattle museum, that rim is low just as in the DST, but that item is a "stunt" phaser that's been "heroized" or so is myunderstanding. I do like TMP look tho but if the upcoming DST exclusive repaint just re-uses the WOK mold, the rim will be low again. :unsure
I believe the DST TMP does have the right control panel, with the two dots instead of the lines. It's the body that is the same.
I do hope that EFX does do a TMP replica as well as a TWOK replica. As long as they actually make both accurate and different.
WinstonWolf359
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If you notice the prop on the right side seems to be a hero, but also seems to have the lower "collar" around the dilithium crystal like the TWOK.
[/QUOTE]If you notice the prop on the right side seems to be a hero, but also seems to have the lower "collar" around the dilithium crystal like the TWOK.
Hmm. Like the wrist comms, there seem to be wide variances from prop to prop on TMP. There were no two wrist comms that were alike. so the same might have been true of the phasers as well.
I do note the lower "rim" on the phaser on the right, now that you point it out. 
The gap is pretty wide though, on both phasers.
A minor point, it does not detract at all from my enjoyment of the DST phaser. It's sort of on a par with the fact that the DST's body edges are really sharp, while the props seem more rounded. Or that the DST has so many screws in the side. :lol
It's just so much fun to play with though.
The gap is pretty wide though, on both phasers.
A minor point, it does not detract at all from my enjoyment of the DST phaser. It's sort of on a par with the fact that the DST's body edges are really sharp, while the props seem more rounded. Or that the DST has so many screws in the side. :lol
It's just so much fun to play with though.
Ordered a roll of Prismatic Holographic tape from these folks to correct the sides on my WOK Phaser.
http://www.identi-tape.com/deco-prismatic.html
The silver looks to be correct, I'll post when it arrives and let everyone know.
http://www.identi-tape.com/deco-prismatic.html
The silver looks to be correct, I'll post when it arrives and let everyone know.
I'll be sanding the edges on the TMP version when it comes out. Of course will have to do a repaint, but had planned that anyway. I also got my holo tape in the mail yesterday from Zodou. The phaser looks so much better with the correct tape on it. Thanks go out to Zodou!:cool
The plugs in the P2 seem to be glued in or are a tighter fit than the ones in the P1. I can't get them out without damage to them. As soon as I find something to make replacements I'll pop them out and open the P2. Hopefully the switch can be replacedor modded and weight added to the grip. I'll have that all done by the weekend.
The plugs in the P2 seem to be glued in or are a tighter fit than the ones in the P1. I can't get them out without damage to them. As soon as I find something to make replacements I'll pop them out and open the P2. Hopefully the switch can be replacedor modded and weight added to the grip. I'll have that all done by the weekend.
Having worked at Brick price movie miniatures (Who made the props) It is a good bet the phasers were different phaser to phaser--it was a small shop and I am sure they rolled a lot of freelancers in to get the work done (STTMP- wrist communicators, phasers, tricorders) in time for the production schedule 30 plus years ago. (Wow- it has been that long..)
Hmm. Like the wrist comms, there seem to be wide variances from prop to prop on TMP. There were no two wrist comms that were alike. so the same might have been true of the phasers as well.[/quote]
Hmm. Like the wrist comms, there seem to be wide variances from prop to prop on TMP. There were no two wrist comms that were alike. so the same might have been true of the phasers as well.[/quote]
Here is a new video if anyone is interested.
There is a big difference between the gaps in the two phasers as well, though. Pauleysolo's post confirms that there were probably a wide variance from prop to prop.
There is a big difference between the gaps in the two phasers as well, though. Pauleysolo's post confirms that there were probably a wide variance from prop to prop.
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Which one did you order? The first one or the Micro?
The first one, not the micro.
Just catching up on the last 6 pages. There's a lot more to these "old " things than I had thought. Just at random,(forgive any repeating on answers I might have missed)
Anybody ever build that sketch version of the "wrist brace" for this? I remember seeing that in Starlog waaaaay back when and thinking it was much better that Kirk's old clunky phaser rifle.
Never knew that about the old South Bends being based off prototypes. I suppose that makes them a "replica onto themselves". Now that I think about it, their "Modular Enterprise" toy was based off the first model for that movie as well. "I never made the connection."
Those first brick Price skectches are hideous, makes the new movie ones look elegant now! Glad they went with what they did.
Notice the black color at the base of TMP version? (Going by memory here, Playmates made it real obvious) Could it be read as a clip like power pack? Carrying on the original concept, foreshadowing the Assault Phaser, and making a real cool feature for any future versions.
Looking at the photos of the "Belt Clip with tape trigger", that clip extends into the PI area and the "seam" looks scribed. I'm assuming there were NEVER ANY fully functional (PI comes off...etc.) heores made? All photos I've ever seen are one unit with lights. Movies it was used in barely used the big one. The DST is the first?
Looking at the "purple" version. Notice how the weathering shows thru grey. I hate to admit I stopped watching EVERY episode of Trek about the time NG stopped. As someone pointed out, this had to be a repaint for some alien BG stuff, whats with the black foam? I didn't see any captures from that NG episode....Ohhh....The one where Picard and Wesley are marooned with "Alan Carter" (that was a personal conundrum for me anyhow...It's late, I''m overworked and the time changed...can't recall the name.) The one where it was wrapped in leather. Was that a WOK "blinky light" version, or what?
OK I'll stop with the randomness. Please forgive.
Saw that $19 deal and mine should be here by Sat. I thought ONE would suffice, but after seeing the photos for the TMP version, I might have to spring for that as well, the control panel just seems so...colorful.
Thanks!
Later,
JW Foust
Anybody ever build that sketch version of the "wrist brace" for this? I remember seeing that in Starlog waaaaay back when and thinking it was much better that Kirk's old clunky phaser rifle.
Never knew that about the old South Bends being based off prototypes. I suppose that makes them a "replica onto themselves". Now that I think about it, their "Modular Enterprise" toy was based off the first model for that movie as well. "I never made the connection."
Those first brick Price skectches are hideous, makes the new movie ones look elegant now! Glad they went with what they did.
Notice the black color at the base of TMP version? (Going by memory here, Playmates made it real obvious) Could it be read as a clip like power pack? Carrying on the original concept, foreshadowing the Assault Phaser, and making a real cool feature for any future versions.
Looking at the photos of the "Belt Clip with tape trigger", that clip extends into the PI area and the "seam" looks scribed. I'm assuming there were NEVER ANY fully functional (PI comes off...etc.) heores made? All photos I've ever seen are one unit with lights. Movies it was used in barely used the big one. The DST is the first?
Looking at the "purple" version. Notice how the weathering shows thru grey. I hate to admit I stopped watching EVERY episode of Trek about the time NG stopped. As someone pointed out, this had to be a repaint for some alien BG stuff, whats with the black foam? I didn't see any captures from that NG episode....Ohhh....The one where Picard and Wesley are marooned with "Alan Carter" (that was a personal conundrum for me anyhow...It's late, I''m overworked and the time changed...can't recall the name.) The one where it was wrapped in leather. Was that a WOK "blinky light" version, or what?
OK I'll stop with the randomness. Please forgive.
Saw that $19 deal and mine should be here by Sat. I thought ONE would suffice, but after seeing the photos for the TMP version, I might have to spring for that as well, the control panel just seems so...colorful.
Thanks!
Later,
JW Foust
The TNG episode with Nick Tate was "Final Mission", and they used castings of the Trek III phaser with leather wrapped handles
One of these ends up in the "shrine wall" in Kirk's "Nexus" cabin, in "Generations", but may not have been seen in the film itself. There's a photo in "Art of Star Trek" though I think.
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There's a WOK phaser (and a Trek III phaser) on the weapons wall in TNG "Too Short a Season"
Prior to DST I have never seen a picture of a TMP/WOK phaser with the p1 separated. However the cleavage on the prop now in Paul Allen's museum is very deep, so I'd be curious about that one.
The black bit at the base of the grip of the TMP phaser in those prop shots is a "buttplate"... the HMS/Rodd phaser kit includes a bit of styrene for that and instructions to paint it black for TMP and grip color for WOK (you can see the buttplate in the Paul Allen museum shot above)
The working TMP prop with the lights in the "scotch tape" photos seems to have TWO clips... one is a thin wire and the other is a bent strip of what could be brass. It's the bent strip that is attached to the p1 area (and seriously glued or molded into there... the plastic seems deformed!). I wonder though if the "thin wire" clip might have been attached FIRST, found to be inadequate, and then the thicker bent strip was added later.
One of these ends up in the "shrine wall" in Kirk's "Nexus" cabin, in "Generations", but may not have been seen in the film itself. There's a photo in "Art of Star Trek" though I think.
auction photo
There's a WOK phaser (and a Trek III phaser) on the weapons wall in TNG "Too Short a Season"
Prior to DST I have never seen a picture of a TMP/WOK phaser with the p1 separated. However the cleavage on the prop now in Paul Allen's museum is very deep, so I'd be curious about that one.
The black bit at the base of the grip of the TMP phaser in those prop shots is a "buttplate"... the HMS/Rodd phaser kit includes a bit of styrene for that and instructions to paint it black for TMP and grip color for WOK (you can see the buttplate in the Paul Allen museum shot above)
The working TMP prop with the lights in the "scotch tape" photos seems to have TWO clips... one is a thin wire and the other is a bent strip of what could be brass. It's the bent strip that is attached to the p1 area (and seriously glued or molded into there... the plastic seems deformed!). I wonder though if the "thin wire" clip might have been attached FIRST, found to be inadequate, and then the thicker bent strip was added later.
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Karl,
YOU DO RULE! AS ALWAYS!
RE Closeup of last one W the hangers...there was a further closeup (forgive, I'm still on dial up) of the hanger that the join looks obviously scribed....The Museum shot IS the only one I've seen with that...GAP. EM's were always one piece, were they not? and whats with that hole just rear of the control panel, above the reflective strip?
And I think I have a Marco catalog from the late 80's with a 2 piece, the fit ain't right. Just like in the museum photo! Nothing on screen ever had that gap. That you could ever see ON SCREEN anyway?
I was way off on the "Final Mission" stuff...Sorry all, Sorry!
Regards,
JF
YOU DO RULE! AS ALWAYS!
RE Closeup of last one W the hangers...there was a further closeup (forgive, I'm still on dial up) of the hanger that the join looks obviously scribed....The Museum shot IS the only one I've seen with that...GAP. EM's were always one piece, were they not? and whats with that hole just rear of the control panel, above the reflective strip?
And I think I have a Marco catalog from the late 80's with a 2 piece, the fit ain't right. Just like in the museum photo! Nothing on screen ever had that gap. That you could ever see ON SCREEN anyway?
I was way off on the "Final Mission" stuff...Sorry all, Sorry!
Regards,
JF
Here's an enlargement of the Profiles catalog pic of the Allen WOK phaser.
I'd guess that if the phaser is a working one, the hole might be for inserting a toothpick to switch the electronics on and off.
It's said that the WOK hero is a TMP vacformed "dummy" prop, so I wonder if the deep gap might be from the phaser having been cut open, for installing the electronics?
Here's an enlargement of the separation line on the TMP prop. If anybody has better shots of these props, please post.
Incidentally these two photos seem to strongly suggest that the TMP and WOK phasers are actually the same color. What is up with that. :lol
I'd guess that if the phaser is a working one, the hole might be for inserting a toothpick to switch the electronics on and off.
It's said that the WOK hero is a TMP vacformed "dummy" prop, so I wonder if the deep gap might be from the phaser having been cut open, for installing the electronics?
Here's an enlargement of the separation line on the TMP prop. If anybody has better shots of these props, please post.
Incidentally these two photos seem to strongly suggest that the TMP and WOK phasers are actually the same color. What is up with that. :lol
Poring through WOK on DVD to try to catch glimpses of the working props... it seems that when Kirk and party beam over to the Regula Spacelab, Kirk calls "Phasers on Stun" and presses the lowest setting on his prop... the lowest light lights up. The status lights up top is/are already lit when he takes the phaser out of his pocket. (apparently the props have a direct relationship between switch pressed and setting lighting up... requiring four switches. The DST toy has just the one switch which cycles among the settings).
Deforest Kelley on the other hand, presses the HIGHEST setting, and all four of his lights start chasing (actually chasing, not the 1-2-3-4-all lit thing that the DST does...)
Later, down on the Regula planetoid, when David Marcus and the survivors attack Kirk and party, you can see Kelley at far right... holding his weapon backwards. :rolleyes
Deforest Kelley on the other hand, presses the HIGHEST setting, and all four of his lights start chasing (actually chasing, not the 1-2-3-4-all lit thing that the DST does...)
Later, down on the Regula planetoid, when David Marcus and the survivors attack Kirk and party, you can see Kelley at far right... holding his weapon backwards. :rolleyes
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phasersonthrill
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Later, down on the Regula planetoid, when David Marcus and the survivors attack Kirk and party, you can see Kelley at far right... holding his weapon backwards. :rolleyes
Well the phasers do sit in their holsters business side up and you have to flip them around when drawing, like Shatner does when they first beam down, Perhaps Kelley couldn't do it as quickly or adeptly and was caught in middraw.
Deforest also held phasers backwards in TOS... I think it's in Catspaw where you can see him holding one backwards as they approach Sylvia and Korob's castle.
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