Dewy and Anakin Starkiller's Accurate Qui-Gon Jinn Lightsaber Design
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That was exactly my interpretation, but because of the way the clip was edited it is not 100% clear they are referring to the QGJ saber. I tend to think they were.
My MR LE is 290mm
Correction, more precisely 292mm
Correction, more precisely 292mm
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Agreed.
I have some of the pictures MR took for reference when they were measuring the various prequel sabers. The QGJ sabers they had for reference were a bladed resin stunt and resin belt hanger that was completely beat up and warped. It's possible they had access to the hero at some other point, but I think that's unlikely given some of the inaccuracies of their replica (mostly the pommel).
It's funny you mention the pommel. I was just comparing my MR to another replica I have and was surprised how different the pommels are. Like reeeeally different...
We had the same problem with using resin casts of the Luke Hero resulting in undersized replicas. It’s always bothered me that primary reference for most replicas has been resin casts. This run is incredibly exciting because I think it’s the first time we’re going to see complete accuracy to the hero prop as it was during filming
I sold mine, however I do have the Saberz Project Q and the One Replicas version. If that would help?? Not sure if that's infringement on their designs but I'm fresh out of my MR QG.
I definitely don't want to take any measurements from other RPF hilts. The MR measurement was just for reference and I got what I need.
AnubisGuard
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For whatever its worth, my old Larbel Q -- scaled, so far as I know, entirely off of the visual dictionary pic with the Covertech knob as reference -- is 295mm long.
Let me tell you, in a lot of ways this hilt is more challenging to model than the Obi TPM. The Obi saber has a lot more details, but that means that as I rotate my model between views and overlay against reference images I have more points of reference. Additionally, a lot of the Obi saber features are very geometric whereas the Qui-Gon has a lot of organic shapes. All that being said, I’m getting really good alignment with reference images.
It looks great!!
celtic1138
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It could be argued that regardless of full saber length, the actual usable grip length of the Qui Gon saber makes it fit the statement. While the Obi-Wan Saber may likely be slightly shorter anyway, the pommel at the end shortens how much of the grip is really comfortable to use.
I’ve always had the impression that the statement was more about how proportionate it would look as a belt-hanger, due to Neeson’s height.
I totally agree with not wanting to referencing other replicas.
However at least on O1 and Q1, you can see them photographed right next to their screen-used counterparts, and that the lengths match.
I get ~282-283mm for both hilts. To be more precise, O1 is 282.4mm, and Q1 is 283.0mm. Of course, it's possible that there's a little shrinkage from hero to cast saber. But I'd be very surprised to see a 17mm difference. I know that my Qui-Gon reference hilt is from early production, as it features an M8 thru-rod; they played with both M8 and M10, eventually settling on the latter. Only Qui-Gon hilts ever got M8 rods, as they were also used as practice and development hilts. Every other hilt in Episode I and Episode II got M10 rods.
Note, in the angled shot of the sabers sitting in the foam, you're drawing a line where the Obi-Wan's pommel disappears. However, that would basically cut off the last rounded element.
Again, for what it's worth, here's Saberz Q1 next to the original prop. And while I did remove the background and add the drop shadow and captions, the photo is otherwise unaltered. The sabers were shot together, at the same time, in the same photograph. I took it from high above, as perfectly perpendicularly as I could, at almost 200mm focal length to reduce distortion effects. Again, I measure 283mm exactly. Certainly you could argue some OTHER examples might be different, or that the hero prop is different, but there's no way I was 17mm off measuring this particular prop ;-)
Same story for this photo - the sabers were shot at the same time, in the same photograph, in the same conditions (200mm focal length, as perpendicular as possible, etc). Background removed and drop shadows added, but otherwise an unaltered photograph. 282.4mm for O1.
My deepest apologies if this makes your quest for sanity more difficult. I am not trying to criticize your work or you models, for which you know I have the utmost respect. Just, this is where I landed. I hope it's helpful in some way.
My deepest apologies if this makes your quest for sanity more difficult. I am not trying to criticize your work or you models, for which you know I have the utmost respect. Just, this is where I landed. I hope it's helpful in some way.
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