Custom Tennant Sonic Build

[Rassilon]

Look this has been fun but I have to go and do some work, as I would like to go and see how my transmitters are going in the CNC, this has been very entertaining for my workers.
And as well for me, as we have a wide screen set up for them to comment on out in the shop floor.

I do think this should be on the Jerry Springer show, what ya think me and CT on the Jerry Springer show, now that would be good. Can someone set that up?.

 

[LeAngeSolitaire]

I’m not offering them to you, or anyone like you.

The petulance of that response answers my question.

 

[LeAngeSolitaire]

Look this has been fun but I have to go and do some work

Time for school is it?

 

[mooneye63]

Apart from the obvious copying of CT's excellent work & editing of past post by Rassilon1 in attempt to change history, the thing that I find quite incredible about this thread, is the members who are chomping at the bit to buy this Sonic now its no longer going to be a personal project. Nothing wrong in that I hear you cry, especially if you want to buy from someone who has been banned from another site before for recasting someone else's hard work, but wait! Hold on... I remember people calling CT out when he was making his Sonic during the time when MFX were license holders. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't there an outcry saying it was wrong for CT to produce his product as it was not authorized by the BBC & therefore he was effectively stealing business from Gortons project.

Er right... Well, if that was your argument, & if that was the set of principle that you stuck by in all of those posts, why aren't you saying the same about Rassilon's Sonic? QMx has the license at the moment, so surely by the same token, you should be shouting the same thing & steering clear of this project too? But no. Why? Because Rassilon is finally giving you the excuse you need to get your hands on a 10th Dr sonic.
OK, so as all your past protests & so called principles fly out the window, remember this. Just like all those who went off & sneakily bought a CT Sonic off a 3rd party thinking their skewed principles were intact, you, like them, will still benefiting from the CT's engineering skills when you buy this re-casted piece.

So go on then, tell me if you can, why is buying from Rassilon now so different?

 

[LeAngeSolitaire]

Apart from the obvious copying of CT's excellent work & editing of past post by Rassilon1 in attempt to change history, the thing that I find quite incredible about this thread, is the members who are chomping at the bit to buy this Sonic now its no longer going to be a personal project. Nothing wrong in that I hear you cry, especially if you want to buy from someone who has been banned from another site before for recasting someone else's hard work, but wait! Hold on... I remember people calling CT out when he was making his Sonic during the time when MFX were license holders. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't there an outcry saying it was wrong for CT to produce his product as it was not authorized by the BBC & therefore he was effectively stealing business from Gortons project.

Er right... Well, if that was your argument, & if that was the set of principle that you stuck by in all of those posts, why aren't you saying the same about Rassilon's Sonic? QMx has the license at the moment, so surely by the same token, you should be shouting the same thing & steering clear of this project too? But no. Why? Because Rassilon is finally giving you the excuse you need to get your hands on a 10th Dr sonic.
OK, so as all your past protests & so called principles fly out the window, remember this. Just like all those who went off & sneakily bought a CT Sonic off a 3rd party thinking their skewed principles were intact, you, like them, will still benefiting from the CT's engineering skills when you buy this re-casted piece.

So go on then, tell me if you can, why is buying from Rassilon now so different?

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[DrConstantine]

who cares, i mean really, how is any of this new. Others have tried to make this sonic, and the "Bull Dog" as rassilon the first calls him, post on his twitter mocking the individual who is trying to build this. The builders thread rolls on untill the person seems to be a threat, then he posts on his precious little blog insulting the individual. sure it was funny at first then there was the qmx fiasco, and now this.

Are there simmilarities yes, as for the end cap you can say the same for this one

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The Jack Harkness version


we are all here to learn, so everyone shut the frak up and please please let this thread resume

 

[LeAngeSolitaire]

who cares, i mean really, how is any of this new. Others have tried to make this sonic, and the "Bull Dog" as rassilon the first calls him, post on his twitter mocking the individual who is trying to build this. The builders thread rolls on untill the person seems to be a threat, then he posts on his precious little blog insulting the individual. sure it was funny at first then there was the qmx fiasco, and now this.

Are there simmilarities yes, as for the end cap you can say the same for this one

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The Jack Harkness version


we are all here to learn, so everyone shut the frak up and please please let this thread resume

Those were all done by Designworks on behalf of the licencees.

 

[Rassilon]

There can only be one, isn’t that right LeAngeSolitaire

 

[LeAngeSolitaire]

There can only be one, isn’t that right LeAngeSolitaire

One what? :confused

 

[DrConstantine]

yes, but the end cap looks similar, how do we not know that this is where rassilons design came from?

 

[LeAngeSolitaire]

yes, but the end cap looks similar, how do we not know that this is where rassilons design came from?

I doubt it. Those toys look like a totally different lineage. They are a straighter cone shape and lack the curvature seen in the props or the CT.

 

[DrConstantine]

not on the one that came with the vortex manipulator

 

[LeAngeSolitaire]

not on the one that came with the vortex manipulator

Which one is that?

 

[greatwazoo42]

Which one is that?

That would be the one that came with the vortex manipulator, duh! :lol

 

[Anakin Starkiller]

Here's a quick comparison pic of the Aztec, CT and Rassilon1's original blueprint end knobs.

This pics actually shows things from CT's sonic cap that do not match on Rasilon's. First off on Rassilon's design, the teeth are definatley longer than on CT's design. The nub on the end of Rassilon's cap is shorter than on CT's cap. And Rassilon's sonic cap is made to slide much farther onto the aluminum connector piece than the CT cap. I can't see that CT and Rassilon's end caps are any more similar than CT's and the Aztec end cap or Rassilon's and the Aztec cap. The teeth on the Aztec cap in this picture seem to match the teeth in Rassilon's design, but not CT's and the end nub on the Aztec cap seems about the same lenth of the end nub on CT's cap, but not Rassilon's. And the curve of the CT and Rassilon sonic does look somewhat similar. But then again curve on the Aztec sonic would look about the same if it wasn't being elongated by being shown at a different angle from the other two. From this pic there are things on each cap that mach the other two and things that don't.

I've studied the various Tennant sonics a lot for my own projects and I can tell you that there was a some variation in the different caps used on the S1, Aztec, and S4 props. Even between the two season 4 props shown on Nick Robatto's webcite, the end caps look slightly different because they were hand machined and finished. I don't see from any of the comparison's posted so far that Rassilon's design is any more similar to CT's sonic in terms of the Emitter head and Sonic cap than it is to any of the screen used pieces.

Dan

 

[Organic Mechanic]

...has been banned from another site before for recasting someone else's hard work...

Which site was this exactly? I only know of the gentleman being banned from Tardis Builders, and that was for posting his supposedly 'personal project' 3-4 sonic. When it became obvious that he was selling them, the TOS came into play. No member of that site sells any unlicensed replicas (at least none that they are allowed to post there). Plain and simple.

If you are NOT speaking of that site, then I apologize. Otherwise, let's not cast any more undeserved aspersions on the guy.

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Rass, sorry I never got back to you with my plans. The night we were discussing them, I "let the smoke out" of that computer and lost everything, including my models, in the process. (Back ups, back ups, back ups!)

 

[Anakin Starkiller]

I'd like to know this too. This is the first I've ever heard of this...

 

[phez]

Here's a quick comparison pic of the Aztec, CT and Rassilon1's original blueprint end knobs.

Let's put the actual machined part the is part of the kit (I know it looks nothing like the BullDog so it does not not support the recasting accusation but let's be reasonable here). Quite simply the prongs match up with the Aztec and are not even close to the incorrect short BullDog version. The BulDog end cap is bulbous and does not look like the original, the Rassilon1 is not exact but it is longer, different and closer than the BullDog period.

The builders thread rolls on until the person seems to be a threat, then he posts on his precious little blog insulting the individual.

I think the part of the story that is missing is where is the proxy threats and intimidation are used to scare other board members and worst of all the actual industry professionals that we could all learn something from.

You and your little group of terrorists drove off Neil Gorton (an award winning FX specialist that actually works on DrWho) and Kenney Palkoy (QMX and prop maker from Warehouse13). Both were nice people who were friendly and excited to talk about there projects with there fans (and most of us wanted to listen). Just reiterating this so that anyone new to the thread can understand the loss of real talent to this community that your trash talking has caused so far.

I think johnny5676 speaks for a lot of us that are fed up with your ****.
The people who are following this thread see you guys for exactly what you are, the attack dogs for a banned member that will do whatever is necessary to derail any thread working on a Sonic Screwdriver. Take your recasting allegations to mods or leave the thread. You are not going to do that as you know your proof is bull**** and will not hold up to scrutiny. If you do not like the project do not buy a kit (keep paying 400.00 dollars for Sonics that are so far off from screen used by all of your own admissions (not mine) that you can apparently tell someone is copying it instead of using photos of an original) You are trying to trash a guys reputation with pic's that do not even close to prove you point.

Looks a lot like that top toy in the photo might have recast the BullDog. His end cap looks a lot closer to that than the Rassalon1 does, maybe you better go and investigate that lol

It does not looks like the person doing the project is going let you pull your usual crap (along with all of the people who are actually here to watch and learn and not fill the thread up with trash) so go away.

 

[LeAngeSolitaire]

I'm no one's attack dog Phez and without meaning to sound like I'm being inflammatory, but most people who are impartial can already see what's going on, and it's not looking great for your Australian friend. Just because you are blind to the obvious doesn't mean to say others are.

 

[phez]

but most people who are impartial can already see what's going on

Your right, they can, and anyone can look at the comparison pics and tell the difference between those end caps. You guys are playing to your own crowd and that is it.


I am impartial, I can make my own own Sonic's and do not need to buy one from either party (can you say the same?). I am just calling what I see here and what I saw in the other threads exactly like it is. I do not know Rassalon1 and we are not friends, but seeing someone who is doing there own drawings and CNC files trashed to protect the sales of someone who is not a member of this board is just sad. If you believe your fooling anyone with this then please continue. If a CT Sonic was in any way referenced in the start of this project it looks like it is not there in the machined parts.