The Mandalorian (TV series)

Sometimes I forget you need to spell things out. This was an evolution of sail barge Luke. He was calm, cool, collected, and in charge. If you want to get picky, this was a version of Qui Gon and Obi Wan hacking up battle droids in the prequels. No matter how powerful a droid is, it should pale in comparison to a Jedi Master - which is what we saw. If you largely blaster and flame proof, even the best fighter is going to have a problem. A Jedi Master? No.

Forgive me (us) if we wanted to see a Luke at the height of his power at some point. In the OT we got a hero who finally understood and graduated at the end, but wasn't at the height of his power. We finally saw that. We (most of us anyhow) liked/loved it. Sorry if my short handing it into 'badass' offended you. I didn't want to spell it out if precise detail after just watching it and being so psyched.
 
You miss the point per usual. It's hyperbole more than anything else. It's not that Luke has to be a kick ass warrior at all. It's Luke doing what's RIGHT. no equivocation or other BS they dumped on us in TLJ. Luke got a call that someone with force ability send out a help signal (for lack of a better term) and his response was to get out there, find him, and help him. Not turn his back and say 'screw that guy, he's on his own'.

Luke might give up on himself at some point, but he would never gives up on others.
And Luke never gave up on others. He never ever said 'screw that guy, he's on his own.' What Luke does come to say is; 'I'm sorry I can't get involved. Because every time I do my emotions get the better of me and I end up making things worse.'
 
This will ruffle some feathers…but, honestly? I don’t really see a difference between Favreau & Filoni and JJ Abrams. They’re all fans before storytellers. Favreau and Filoni are just more attuned to what the majority of the fan base want. Either way, I think it’s detrimental to the end product. Yes, I do think Favreau is more competent (by far) than Abrams, but it’s all fan stuff, not substance.
 
You turn the biggest evil loose on the galaxy in 30 years and run off an hide - you're giving up on you, your nephew, your sister, your best fried (han), the new republic, and the whole galaxy more or less. You are pretty much the only one with a chance of stopping him.
 
Wait a minute, is this the Let’s Talk All Things Star Wars thread, or is this The Mandalorian thread?

I thought I clicked on The Mandalorian thread but I am reading the same arguments from that thread regarding The Sequel Trilogy, etc.

Let me hit the “back” button and double check...
 
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I’m honored. It seems like you’re a nobody on this thread unless joek3rr contradicts you.

Anyway you didn’t read my statement carefully. See below. I didn’t say anything about whether the event was true within the context of the movie. Note that the scene does appear in the movie. However the context you read into my post seems like you replied in a rushed fashion, so apologies in advance if I seem harsh.

“ it was nice to see him looking cool rather than as a scary looking old man with eyeliner in the last Jedi.”

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One of those didn't happen.....
 
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When we see Mando stood with his helmet off on the bridge of Gideons cruiser it became quite hideously apparant just apparantly how few scenes Pedro Pascal is actually shooting on set. Compare his body and the fit of his armour to almost any other scene in the episode and you'll see that the two thinner stuntmen (the shooter and fighter) are in the armour for the vast majority of the episode. Pedro on the other hand fills the costume out quite a bit and it looks almost like it doesn't fit him.

I know that the role was shared between the 3 of them, with Pedro being the public 'face' of Mando, but looking at this it seems he really does bugger all on set work and it's 99% audio.

Edit - I'd add a pics to back this up but cap-that hasn't got Ep 8 up yet.
 
You turn the biggest evil loose on the galaxy in 30 years and run off an hide - you're giving up on you, your nephew, your sister, your best fried (han), the new republic, and the whole galaxy more or less. You are pretty much the only one with a chance of stopping him.
Don't reply, don't reply, don't reply............ugh I hate myself....


I mean that's kinda the point. Luke feels responsible for all that and he kinda doesn't trust himself to get involved. I mean does Luke really want to pull an Obi-Wan and leave his pupil for dead somewhere?
 
When we see Mando stood with his helmet off on the bridge of Gideons cruiser it became quite hideously apparant just apparantly how few scenes Pedro Pascal is actually shooting on set. Compare his body and the fit of his armour to almost any other scene in the episode and you'll see that the two thinner stuntmen (the shooter and fighter) are in the armour for the vast majority of the episode. Pedro on the other hand fills the costume out quite a bit and it looks almost like it doesn't fit him.

I know that the role was shared between the 3 of them, with Pedro being the public 'face' of Mando, but looking at this it seems he really does bugger all on set work and it's 99% audio.
Sounds like the perfect job to me :)
 
Well this thread is predictably evolving into another "this is why you're wrong" fest. Think i'll check out before I get sucked into that again.

Wait a minute, is this the Let’s Talk All Things Star Wars thread, or is this The Mandalorian thread?

I thought I clicked on The Mandalorian thread but I am reading the same arguments from that thread regarding The Sequel Trilogy, etc.

Let me hit the “back” button and double check...

I’m honored. It seems like you’re a nobody on this thread unless joek3rr contradicts you.

Anyway you didn’t read my statement carefully. See below. I didn’t say anything about whether the event was true within the context of the movie. But that scene does appear in the movie. However the context you read into my post seems like you replied in a rushed fashion, so apologies in advance if I seem harsh.

“ it was nice to see him looking cool rather than as a scary looking old man with eyeliner in the last Jedi.”

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Which is why his apology is meaningless. I'm out. It was fun while it lasted.
 
When we see Mando stood with his helmet off on the bridge of Gideons cruiser it became quite hideously apparant just apparantly how few scenes Pedro Pascal is actually shooting on set. Compare his body and the fit of his armour to almost any other scene in the episode and you'll see that the two thinner stuntmen (the shooter and fighter) are in the armour for the vast majority of the episode. Pedro on the other hand fills the costume out quite a bit and it looks almost like it doesn't fit him.

I know that the role was shared between the 3 of them, with Pedro being the public 'face' of Mando, but looking at this it seems he really does bugger all on set work and it's 99% audio.

Edit - I'd add a pics to back this up but cap-that hasn't got Ep 8 up yet.
I can’t help but think of Prowse as Vader, or Bulloch as Fett, or even something like the later Friday the 13th films when it started to all be the same stuntman wearing the costume across multiple films. The physical portrayal of the character really gets solidified when as few people put on the suit as possible. Bulloch’s performance made Boba Fett. Sure it was a cool costume, but his take on “Clint Eastwood, but in space” is what sets apart his scenes from, say, the Special Edition scenes, or even from Morrison as Fett. I really didn’t mind him as Jango Fett. He was a different character. But as Boba…not quite the same. The physicality isn’t there. Same with Mando. It’s all too convenient to have a show where the main character has shown his face a total of three times across two seasons. Easy to shoot multiple episodes at once, if no characters cross over between the scenes in question. But I think it pulls away from the show, even just a little. If that were my only critique, I’d be more than happy to sweep it under the rug.
 
I think some people, whether they will admit it or not, just fall into the "Nothing will ever please me!" category. Then of course the same old typical words and phrases are thrown out--"fan service, lazy writing, don't care about the characters, etc. For me, those words carry no weight. They are so over-used they are now cliche'.....Whenever I see that stuff, it's an immediate "scroll-on" moment.

Not talking to anyone specific....
 
Have to say i loved it. I don't care what anyone says, i Loved Luke! To me that was Favreau saying 'THIS is Luke, you @#$%#*es' - not that bastardization shown in E8. I was hoping for Kyle, but i flipped when I saw the xwing. I don't think anyone has to worry about Luke dominating squat. The effect was pretty damn good for TV. As noted, this isn't 250M budget movie, it was maybe a 5-10M budget episode and they had a fraction of the time to do it as a full feature. Cost combined with outcome means you might get one more appearance if/when Grogu leaves the school, but that's about it. You're more likely to get a 'Master Skywalker asked me to bring him back to you...' from some unknown student.

As for Grogu going with him. I'm surprised how many people think it means 1.) he's gone for good, and 2.) he dies when the temple is destroyed. I mean, come on, it doesn't happen for what? 10-12 years in the timeline? Who says Grogu stays the whole time. Luke says he's a danger until he learns to control his powers. Maybe he gets a handle on it and leaves. Maybe Din's called to the training ground for something and Grogu says 'i'm out'. Lots can happen. As for the knob...i think we'll see that go back to him next season. He'll be sitting around someone where looking at the knob and it'll get yanked out of his hand. Plus, as noted, I'd wager Grogu counts for about 75% of the show's licensing/sales as well. You don't write out the golden goose.

I like the cross over with the Tie's being released and the BSG launch tube look. Surprised no one mentioned that that launch sequence seemed to come largely from the Tie-Fighter game - at least as I recall (been a while).

Thank you Jon Favreau. If that's the last we ever see of Luke, I can rest much easier knowing he went out the total badass we knew he was.

You articulated my thoughts exactly!

When the x-wing flew in, I thought - nah, couldn’t be...

Then the cloaked figure walking down the hall...

Then the green lightsaber!

Holy ****, it’s Luke!

and then R2...

My kids looked at me - Daddy, why are you crying...?

Looking forward to season 3!

Sean
 
Every aspect of entertainment, whether it’s a movie, TV, song, stage play, radio or book, is fan service.

If there is no audience, there is no need to produce it.

I really used to get bummed out when I got a critical review on a new book of mine when it was published. I felt that “they didn’t understand” what I was trying to do. When in reality, not everyone is going to like every character that I create. And that’s ok.

No bad reviews have ever hurt my sales! I also get many more positive reviews then negative ones.

In the end, these are my characters and I will do with them as I please. If you like it, I am happy. If not, well, thanks for buying the book anyway.

So, all entertainment is fan service but yet we must decide how to play with our characters.
 
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