The Mandalorian (TV series)

Also, where is that one dude who was POSITIVE that the figure who was walking up to Fennec was Mando?

....Check mate, pal.

Could have been a lot of us. The spur sound effects meant it was likely Fett (the spur sound effects came from him in the OT) or Mando (who also has the spur sound effects)

After todays new episode, I'm feeling sorry for everyone who is paying $400 for the Haslab Razor Crest......

My buddy has the lego set, and I'm really hoping he's already built it, so this isn't nagging him the whole time he's putting it together...


So, that aside, I'll leave my thoughts.

1. The Boba Fett we're getting in this show does not appear to be in line with the Boba Fett from the EU. He simply isn't.
2. I don't really give a **** that he isn't **shrugs**.
3. Most everything we have about Fett being the way he is, was from EU comics and games, and those have been waiting for the headsman's axe to come down for a while now. They would be the next best thing to cannon until they weren't, and now they aren't.
4. The "new" Fett we're seeing can fit into history following the few times we see him on screen in the OT, so I'm good with him.
 
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I swear I clinched up when I thought someone in an iconic ship was about to get blown out of the sky.

Now I'm wondering, if they might die later in the season, then someone else inherits that ship?

I ended up cancelling my HasLab Razor Crest on the last day, just because I had a nagging feeling about it. While I feel 'The Tragedy' referred to the destruction, I kinda smiled to myself when it went boom.
 
What exactly does SW "mean or should be" to you?

You realize this is a matter of opinion, right? Your opinion will not match up with another's. My husband has been a giant SW fan for 35 years and he is absolutely loving this show. I got into SW during the Prequels (I know, I know...it was because I was his Padme for his Anakin costume...I was more into high fantasy and space horror as a kid), and I am loving this show. And I don't care, I loved the Force animals in Rebels, sue me.

I don't think some SW fans know exactly what they want. I don't honestly care if another character comes in for one or two episodes and "over shadows"....they're not going to be there for long. Mando is still the core of the story, even if he's back ground radiation for a while.

As soon as the baby showed up in the first episode, you should have had an inkling as to where this was going to go. He's Yoda's species, he's a jedi, the Empire still exists as do the sequels.

I think some people want some non-existent high brow form of SW that never existed. Or it did....when the originals came out because they were the first. After that, everything has tendrils of connection woven through. It is inevitability.

It's like if y'all read the Hobbit before reading LotR and you got ticked off because Gandalf and Bilbo showed up and you wanted new characters. IT'S THE SAME WORLD. Yes the SW world is larger, but the human brain is finite; one can only create something so far. Even in the old EU books, the Skywalkers were constantly turning up. Vader was a pivotal point. I don't know what you're expecting here. I don't even think you do.
The amount of time you've been a fan is irrelevant to your personal tastes. I see this point being raised time and again as if we suddenly have to prove our loyalty to the fandom which is absurd. You like what you like. You don't have to justify it. Equally if something doesn't work for you there is no need to defend it if you choose not to.

I don't for one second buy this idea that some fans are never happy or that they don't know what they want. It's very clear what HMSwolfe is saying because it's the same thing I've said for the last few pages. Just because you disagree doesn't rob it of merit.

The Mandalorian works best when it steers clear of known characters. That is its greatest strength because it has the potential for growth. If it relies too heavily on what we already know then it could lose viewers that only gave it a chance because it promised to be different. I don't know what's so hard to understand about this and frankly kind of annoying to have to explain over and over. The fact that a fan like me is watching the show AT ALL is a testament to my willingness to be open to new material. For the last 5 years all I've been fed from Lucasfilm is recycled garbage and this show was a chance for them to make something fresh. I just hope they don't squander what goodwill fans like me have left for this franchise by doing the same thing the ST directors did and that is a real possibility, whether you want to acknowledge it or not.

I find it strange that any sort of critique or dislike for even the smallest detail is often met with claims of heresy against the brand. If we are going to have a sincere discussion then let's at least be honest about the shows strengths and weaknesses before we start burning one another at the stake. This isn't the middle ages. There are no witches here.



After todays new episode, I'm feeling sorry for everyone who is paying $400 for the Haslab Razor Crest......
I feel sorry for anyone compelled to pay that much for a Hasbro toy that could easily cost less than half that price if Hasbro released it at retail. Pulse is a rip off.
 
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The amount of time you've been a fan is irrelevant to your personal tastes. I see this point being raised time and again as if we suddenly have to prove our loyalty to the fandom which is absurd. You like what you like. You don't have to justify it. Equally if something doesn't work for you there is no need to defend it if you choose not to.

I don't for one second buy this idea that some fans are never happy or that they don't know what they want. It's very clear what HMSwolfe is saying because it's the same thing I've said for the last few pages. Just because you disagree doesn't rob it of merit.

The Mandalorian works best when it steers clear of known characters. That is its greatest strength because it has the potential for growth. If it relies too heavily on what we already know then it could lose viewers that only gave it a chance because it promised to be different. I don't know what's so hard to understand about this and frankly kind of annoying to have to explain over and over. The fact that a fan like me is watching the show AT ALL is a testament to my willingness to be open to new material. For the last 5 years all I've been fed from Lucasfilm is recycled garbage and this show was a chance for them to make something good. I just hope they don't squander what goodwill fans like me have left for this franchise by doing the same thing the ST directors did and that is a real possibility, whether you want to acknowledge it or not.

I find it strange that any sort of critique or dislike for even the smallest detail is often met with claims of heresy against the brand. If we are going to have a sincere discussion then let's at least be honest about the shows strengths and weaknesses before we start burning one another at the stake. This isn't the middle ages. There are no witches here.

Because there seems to be a deep disservice against anyone who likes CW or Rebels, and they seem to be treated as "newer" fans. Which ever way you want to view it, that's how I view it. And that's how I explain myself. I bring the length of time being a fan, because it shows how different one's views could be and how people like the series in separate ways. As I was introduced to it differently than my husband, thus your experience with a piece of material can be altered by how long you've been with it; how long it's taken to digest and how much you know. Which characters and stories are your favorites....it all varies due to which piece you enjoyed more. Those who tend to have been with the source material longer tend to have stronger opinions, than those who are new. (And that has been brought up before. I'm not the only one making this observation.)

I don't think the Mando works as good without known characters. And as soon as Boba showed up, I knew certain fans were going to be giddy with delight over him, but hate on Filoni's characters...and it has already happened today with several people I know personally.

I never said to not critique it, but all anyone wants to critique is Filoni's contributions. He single handedly saved the Prequels with CW. He came up with an amazing character in Ahsoka Tano.

Without him, The Mandalorian it's self would not have seen the light of day.

I find the constant loving of known characters like Boba coming back, but not one's who haven't been in the series since the 70's, to be stupid.

Who said I was burning anyone at the stake? Though many fans want to burn Filoni at the stake for creating characters and bringing them into to another one of his creations.

I will critique the hell out of Mando if they bring back in Luke. If you want to go there, then yes, the Skywalker Saga IS played out. Hence why I love Bo-Katan, Ahsoka, Ezra and the Mando cast...they have nothing to do with the Skywalkers. So you got me there.

I don't see the reasoning to say that they are leaning heavily on Bo or Ahsoka, when they appeared for one episode each and will likely not return. I think it's BS to mock people cheering for these characters returning, as they are epic pieces of the story to others. If you're going to go after them, go after Cobb, Cara, Grief and now Fennec and Boba. Hell, even Baby Yoda...throw him out too, huh?

Do you just want Din walking around blasting dudes completely alone? That seems super boring. He's not that strong of a character, he needs a bit of a step ladder in the form of a supporting cast.

If you're going to critique something, know that you are opening your self up for criticism in return. That's the way it works.
 
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I knew about 10 minutes in this was the Robert Rodriguez episode, maybe because a lot of it felt like Spy Kids :lol:.

I personally wasn’t blown away by the execution of the episode, I was just glad to see some theories get followed up on. I’m glad we have confirmation about Boba and Jango (eat it Almec!) as well as resolving the plot line with Fennec.

I understand where people are coming from when they note the shift in this season, and honestly I think that Star Wars is beyond ever being a “pure” experience again. It is too big and the plot lines too tightly woven for creatives to truly step away from the familiar. That concession in place it comes down to the way in which the creatives utilize that familiarity, and for me they’re doing a decent job even with the callbacks.

As far as callbacks go I think when viewed objectively they shouldn’t be as big of a deal as some are making them. If TCW/Rebels didn’t exist there would be no “ugh references” it would just be “wonder who Grand Admiral Thrawn is, how did Ahsoka survive all this time”. The “uninitiated” viewers in this thread who haven’t watched those shows aren’t really uninitiated like a general audience is.

All of THAT said, the argument that Mando is getting sidelined is totally valid as the past 3 episodes have had him absent for long stretches of screen time while other characters blast their way through the scenery.
 
I knew about 10 minutes in this was the Robert Rodriguez episode, maybe because a lot of it felt like Spy Kids :lol:.

I personally wasn’t blown away by the execution of the episode, I was just glad to see some theories get followed up on. I’m glad we have confirmation about Boba and Jango (eat it Almec!) as well as resolving the plot line with Fennec.

I understand where people are coming from when they note the shift in this season, and honestly I think that Star Wars is beyond ever being a “pure” experience again. It is too big and the plot lines too tightly woven for creatives to truly step away from the familiar. That concession in place it comes down to the way in which the creatives utilize that familiarity, and for me they’re doing a decent job even with the callbacks.

As far as callbacks go I think when viewed objectively they shouldn’t be as big of a deal as some are making them. If TCW/Rebels didn’t exist there would be no “ugh references” it would just be “wonder who Grand Admiral Thrawn is, how did Ahsoka survive all this time”. The “uninitiated” viewers in this thread who haven’t watched those shows aren’t really uninitiated like a general audience is.

All of THAT said, the argument that Mando is getting sidelined is totally valid as the past 3 episodes have had him absent for long stretches of screen time while other characters blast their way through the scenery.

I totally agree he is being side stepped, but as I edited my post above, Din isn't exactly a fully flushed out, well rounded character. What will make him well rounded is a supporting cast. Friends and foes who will drive his story.

I personally think it makes for a better ride with more characters thrown in. Keeps things interesting.

But I am a fan of the Silmarillion, so I guess a ton of characters might not be everyone's cup of tea...
 
Because there seems to be a deep disservice against anyone who likes CW or Rebels, and they seem to be treated as "newer" fans. Which ever way you want to view it, that's how I view it. And that's how I explain myself. I bring the length of time being a fan, because it shows how different one's views could be and how people like the series in separate ways. As I was introduced to it differently than my husband, thus your experience with a piece of material can be altered by how long you've been with it; how long it's taken to digest and how much you know. Those who tend to have been with the source material longer tend to have stronger opinions, than those who are new. (And that has been brought up before. I'm not the only one making this observation.)

I don't think the Mando works as good without known characters. And as soon as Boba showed up, I knew certain fans were going to be giddy with delight over him, but hate on Filoni's characters...and it has already happened today with several people I know personally.

I never said to not critique it, but all anyone wants to critique is Filoni's contributions. He single handedly saved the Prequels with CW. He came up with an amazing character in Ahsoka Tano.

Without him, The Mandalorian it's self would not have seen the light of day.

I find the constant loving of known characters like Boba coming back, but not one's who haven't been in the series since the 70's, to be stupid.

Who said I was burning anyone at the stake? Though many fans want to burn Filoni at the stake for creating characters and bringing them into to another one of his creations.

I will critique the hell out of Mando if they bring back in Luke. If you want to go there, then yes, the Skywalker Saga IS played out. Hence why I love Bo-Katan, Ahsoka, Ezra and the Mando cast...they have nothing to do with the Skywalkers. So you got me there.

I don't see the reasoning to say that they are leaning heavily on Bo or Ahsoka, when they appeared for one episode each and will likely not return. I think it's BS to mock people cheering for these characters returning, as they are epic pieces of the story to others. If you're going to go after them, go after Cobb, Cara, Grief and now Fennec and Boba. Hell, even Baby Yoda...throw him out too, huh?

Do you just want Din walking around blasting a dudes completely alone? That seems super boring. He's not that strong of a character, he needs a bit of a step ladder in the form of a supporting cast.

If you're going to critique something, know that you are opening your self up for criticism in return. That's the way it works.
As I've said earlier in the discussion I want them to stay away from as much of the OT, PT, ST, Clone Wars, Rebels, etc as possible. I'm interested in the new characters the Mandalorian created. If they are allowed to develop further I might one day love them. If this show has any real legs to stand on then it will take the chance and rely on new material without having to constantly rely on the old.

I'm not mocking you for loving Clone Wars or Rebels. I think you're conflating my frustration with those characters appearance as some sort of personal attack which its not. I've been very consistent in my view of the show so it's not like I'm saying anything I haven't been saying for the last few months.
 
As I've said earlier in the discussion I want them to stay away from as much of the OT, PT, ST, Clone Wars, Rebels, etc as possible. I'm interested in the new characters the Mandalorian created. If they are allowed to develop further I might one day love them. If this show has any real legs to stand on then it will take the chance and rely on new material without having to constantly rely on the old.

I'm not mocking you for loving Clone Wars or Rebels. I think you're conflating my frustration with those characters appearance as some sort of personal attack which its not.

My response was to HMS and a few others...they seem to be mocking CW/Rebels, so I did not mean to come at you for that. Sorry for the confusion there.

I totally understand where you are coming from. I think Mando can still stand on it's own, but not without a solid set up. The jury is still way out there as to how this all could end up.

Are they leaning too heavily on nostalgia? Not all the time, but I think nostalgia is a little book off to the corner that they peak at from time to time. Today was one of those times. If they push it further than what they are currently doing, then I might lean a little more into your corner. Right now I think it's a fun ride.

Rebels and CW are still pretty new, if you ask me. And I've seen the argument that they're done, yet Rebels ended on a cliff hanger. I honestly think they're just using Mando as a back door to future spin offs.

But I can stand with you on one thing: I don't personally care for the Kenobi series pitch. So I totally get where you're coming from.


...(Mainly because he's a gd hypocrite....Korkie Kryze...LIES. That's his son. For shame.)
 
If I were to summarize my hope for this show into one sentence it would be..

As much as possible, let it be it's own thing.

Thus far the cameos we've had worked. I just found them distracting. If this show ends up being nothing more than that as it goes on, then it will be a wasted opportunity in my opinion. I think the ensemble they've created in Din, Grief, Cara, Grogu, etc to be interesting enough that I want to know more about them and I hope they give us more to go on as the series continues.
 
And now for something silly...I can't be the only one:

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I'm hoping that Mando's quest for BY's family ends in this next episode, I'm hoping that he takes the kid to the sacred temple & tries to get him to reach out to the Force, The kid tries to do something, but we don't know what he does or if he was successful because Gideon arrives & with his advanced troopers he kidnaps the child

Next episode is Mando getting help from the friends he has acquired as they attempt to rescue the kid

Last episode could be them not doing so well & at the last minute either Luke, Mace or (hopefully not another shoehorned Filoni character,) Ezra steps in to lend a hand

Boba could be another possibility

???

J

Not too far off the mark

J
 
Boba was raised as a Mandalorian he just turned to a general life of bounty hunting once Jango died. I’m curious if he’ll be granted “True Mandalorian” status at some point for his actions helping Mando. He’s basically upholding his duty by creed in helping to rescue the child.
 
Honestly?

Boba and Mando team up with the Nite Owls to take back Mandalore. Boom: The Mandalorian...s...

Will it happen? Probably not, but man do I hope so.
 
Now everyone will want a gaffi stick. Lol. Some cool action in this one. Though there were a lot of times that just screamed Boba Fett fan film. It was cool to look at and done well, but again, distracting.

I like that they are advancing Grogu's story and personality. He's just so damn adorable. I would have liked to see a bit more of a reaction from Din seeing his little buddy get captured. It would have had more of an emotional punch.
 
When Din kept walking away from Grogu it reminded me of waiting for something in the microwave that might boil over. STOP WALKING AWAY just because you can’t get it out right this second, but stay near by in case you need to intervene. Eventually it’s going to end and then the poor kid is just stuck on that rock.

A lot of the drama in this one was manufactured by Din being dumb. He hesitates to leave Grogu in the safety of the classroom on Nevarro but leaves him totally unguarded on the top of this open henge?
 
Which is why his lack of reaction made Grogu's capture feel kind of empty. Even if Din had expressed frustration with himself, as any parent would for making a mistake like that. I mean at this point he's clearly attached and risked his life and ship to save the kid on many occasions.
 
And WHERE IS YOUR JET PACK, YOU MORON?!

Just..WHAT. I get it helped the tension along, but man. Din has a lot of growing up to do before he becomes a full time dad.

I just imagine his reaction to Bubs being taken under the helmet:

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The Razor Crest blowing up after he spent all his credits on getting it fixed:
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