The Mandalorian (TV series)

Except that none of these elements that you find so egregious are essential knowledge to follow Mando's story, or even to the plot of each episode.

Bo-Katan: All you need to know is shes another Mandalorian who knows a Jedi and is trying to save Mandalore. She sets Mando on his next path. All of this is told to you in the episode.

Ahsoka: All you need to know is shes a Jedi, shes looking for some knowledge, was around for a long time, and sends Mando on his next path. Knowing who Thrawn is or not doesnt change Mando's story or what the episode is really about, if anything it may make a general audience go " Oooo, who's that?". All of this is told to you in the episode.

Darksaber: We know Bo-Katan wants it, and its something she needs to liberate Mandalore, and Gideon stole it at some point. I have no doubt more of its backstory will be given later. All of this is told to you in the episode.

Fett's armor, R5D4, etc: This is all stuff the general audeince member will gloss over and not even notice, and not noticing it doesnt affect the story either. Cobb found some Mando armor in a sandcrawler, cool, probably some guy who died somewhere. You're literally shown where he got it, there's nothing missing for the general audience to follow the story..


I think Filoni and Favreau are both being careful to make sure the general audience has all of the information they need in a given episode to know why who is doing what, or what they need to know to follow along. They're not newbs.
 
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Look, I could be totally wrong & I really hope I am, I love this show, its the best thing that has happened since Disney bought the franchise, I have total faith in Jon Favreau

I guess we can hope that the tiny bits that I notice don't escalate & grow into something that I think could taint the show

J
 
The issue is that these elements have somewhat over shadowed the main story. They worked but could be viewed by many fans to be distracting. If this type of thing continues and shifts focus to the cameo characters, which it certainly could, it could see viewership drop off. That's the concern. So far it hasn't happened but that potential is there and it's a gamble.

The overall point being that the show needs to focus on Mando and groot and Carl weathers and all the new characters they created. No one tuned into this show to see Clone Wars 2.0.
 
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The issue is that these elements have somewhat over shadowed the main story. They worked but could be viewed by many fans to be distracting. If this type of thing continues and shifts focus to the cameo characters, which it certainly could, it could see viewership drop off. That's the concern. So far it hasn't happened but that potential is there and it's a gamble.

The overall point being that the show needs to focus on Mando and groot and Carl weathers and all the new characters they created. No one tuned into this show to see Clone Wars 2.0.
I don't see how this would overshadow the main story when all evidence has been to the contrary so far. And for fans of the show who haven't watched Rebel or Clone Wars previously, there's nothing to these characters that would ruin their enjoyment of the show for not knowing where they came from. It would be no different than if Bo-Katan was, instead, some random Mando, and Ahsoka is (yet) another surviving Jedi. It doesn't affect the story in any meaningful way but what it does do is give fans of The Clone Wars, and Rebels a little something extra to enjoy.
 
Yes their appearance did overshadow the main story in a sense because all the fans have talked about this season is who showed up. So far we had Boba Fett/ Rex (not sure which it was supposed to be), Bo Katan, Ahsoka Tano, and now they name dropped Grand Admiral Thrawn. It's not that it's been bad, but it is distracting if you're not a Clone Wars or Rebels fan.

All I'm saying is that there is a risk that the story could lose focus if Filoni and Favreau aren't careful.
 
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I’ll also argue that mismatched Mando is better than Shiny Mando. Season 2 is definitely taking less of a western approach (episode 1 notwithstanding) for a more action oriented sci-fi angle.

The mismatched armor follows the old EU Mando (well the RC novel versions anyway) where you could wear parts of your relatives' armor to remember them. So for example, one character later on had all kinds of different colors because he had armor from his uncles, grandparents, etc.


I don't really have a problem with them bringing in other characters as long as it's not like the character of the week and it's done for a planned out story arc. We don't just need characters dropped in as easter eggs or stereotypes (we're in Mos Eisley, hey look there's a Hammerhead in the cantina!).
 
Yeah I'm pretty tired of the backwater planet Tatooinne (which was supposed to be inconsequential) being the center of this universe.
 
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I’m tired of Tatooine too, even hate the idea of Anakin being from there, but it does make some sense that Mando is so familiar with it, having been Jabba’s base of operations and a lot of trade in the outer rim passing through there.

I think too much stock is put into Luke’s “if there’s a bright center of the universe you’re on the planet that’s farthest from” and people think of it as a flyover planet when really Luke just lives a sheltered farm life on a crime planet.

All of that said, please no more Tatooine in this show or any of the ancillary stuff. It makes me not even care about the Kenobi series because I know it’ll just be more Tatooine
 
I love the planet visually and it's such an iconic location but they really need to move on from it. I also don't want to see a Kenobi series. As much as I loved Ewan as Obi-Wan, they haven't done much good for the legacy characters so I'd much rather they left him alone. Plus it will be more Tatooinne.
 
I love the planet visually and it's such an iconic location but they really need to move on from it. I also don't want to see a Kenobi series. As much as I loved Ewan as Obi-Wan, they haven't done much good for the legacy characters so I'd much rather they left him alone. Plus it will be more Tatooinne.
I really don’t think you could even tell a good story about any Jedi character, because all they’ve done since the prequels is double down on the whole “no attachments/no humanity” aspect that those movies introduced, rather than acknowledge that prequel Jedi were the worst form of Jedi. Ewan McGregor is a fantastic actor and really, really well cast as young Obi-Wan, even if he was squandered, but they’d have to work pretty hard to actually tell some kind of story with him as the main character at this point.
 
Quite a few interesting developments this week... It does make me wonder how this season is going to end.

Will wait for others to view before commenting with spoilers. There was one character who perhaps talked a bit too much for my liking.

This was the Robert Rodriguez-directed episode - I haven't seen enough of his recent work to have picked up on any particular stylistic directorial choices.
 
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Quite a few interesting developments this week... It does make me wonder how this season is going to end.

Will wait for others to view before commenting with spoilers.

This was the Robert Rodriguez-directed episode haven't seen enough of his recent work to have picked up on any particular stylistic directorial choices.
Yep. They manage to top last weeks episode each time! Crazy good!
 
Sigh... While I obviously wanna love this episode... and I do... I still gotta be that guy..
Well sadly Mando is nothing if not consistent... The man's a complete idiot, and it's amazing he's not dead yet.
Why didn't Din grab his Jetpack?? At least Boba was smart enough to grab all his **** before running into battle... Mando just panicked and ran for the kid like a goddamn goofball... But seriously why didn't he ever call it on his gauntlet like we saw him do in Chapter 10??.. or while he was watching the Dark Troopers fly away? He literally just.. forgot about it... and his literal plot armor had to save his dumb ass yet again until he was up ***** creek and had to be bailed out be a competent Bounty Hunter... Ok rant over..
Boy can I not keep the smile off my face seeing Slave I again though. Just yes :love:..
 
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I really love how Filoni and Favreau set things up. I'm sure we'll see a great battle at the end of the show, probably to liberate Mandalore. And you get some glimps of some characters you could know if you watched and read some things but you don't have to know them to get along with the story. Everyone of them teasers a bit of their own interests and you can see where it leads to. I really like that. Sure it's a lot of fan service but you get the feeling that you follow Mando who isn't the center of the universe and around him a lot of stuff is happening.
 
I’m fairly certain that we will see Ashoka again. Gideon does not have a dark saber for no reason. There will be a battle.

Pretty sure that battle will take place between Din and Moff. Giancarlo said be broke a ton of Dark Sabers on set...I'm fairly certain that was against the Beskar spear.

But HOLY **** that episode.

I'm sweating. :lol:

Since I guess we are doing spoilers...







But yes, Din was an absolute KNOB in this episode. Probably for obvious reasons.

Do you think Din is just like...

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Also, where is that one dude who was POSITIVE that the figure who was walking up to Fennec was Mando?

....Check mate, pal.
 
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What’s happening to the Mandalorian is essentially a kind of “gentrification”, except instead of wealthy people pushing out poor, it’s the so-called “true fans” pushing everyone else out and redefining what Star Wars means or should be. Because, even though multiple groups and divisions exist within the fans (obviously, as evidenced by this thread alone), some fans aren’t content with a different set getting what they want, which isn’t the Filoni stuff. Nowhere does it say everything Star Wars has to have Filoni and his concepts attached. Nowhere does it say that he can’t go and make another show where all the fan service one could possibly desire is present. It’s just disappointing to those of us who did like the Mandalorian initially when it wasn’t just a “best of Filoni” clip show. If it had started out guns blazing with the level of name-dropping and cameo-ing it’s getting to be, I don’t think the show would have nearly the same following.

I mean, imagine you’re sitting there watching Avengers: Endgame, and one of the characters from Agents of Shield shows up and starts overshadowing all these other characters, and is more powerful than them, and keeps name-dropping some big bad from the show you’ve never heard of. It would be kind of annoying, right?


What exactly does SW "mean or should be" to you?

You realize this is a matter of opinion, right? Your opinion will not match up with another's. My husband has been a giant SW fan for 35 years and he is absolutely loving this show. I got into SW during the Prequels (I know, I know...it was because I was his Padme for his Anakin costume...I was more into high fantasy and space horror as a kid), and I am loving this show. And I don't care, I loved the Force animals in Rebels, sue me.

I don't think some SW fans know exactly what they want. I don't honestly care if another character comes in for one or two episodes and "over shadows"....they're not going to be there for long. Mando is still the core of the story, even if he's back ground radiation for a while.

As soon as the baby showed up in the first episode, you should have had an inkling as to where this was going to go. He's Yoda's species, he's a jedi, the Empire still exists as do the sequels.

I think some people want some non-existent high brow form of SW that never existed. Or it did....when the originals came out because they were the first. After that, everything has tendrils of connection woven through. It is inevitability.

It's like if y'all read the Hobbit before reading LotR and you got ticked off because Gandalf and Bilbo showed up and you wanted new characters. IT'S THE SAME WORLD. Yes the SW world is larger, but the human brain is finite; one can only create something so far. Even in the old EU books, the Skywalkers were constantly turning up. Vader was a pivotal point. I don't know what you're expecting here. I don't even think you do.
 
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