Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (Pre-release)

This says it all for me.

I'm really guessing this movie must end very close to the start of Star Wars. Heck, I half expect it to end with someone handing the plans to a certain Princess (the back of her head- no face) telling the Captain to set a course for Tatooine, and the ship taking off. End Credits Roll.

And I'd be pretty damned happy to see that
They have already said that this movie will end 10 minutes before epi 4 begins.

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This says it all for me.

I'm really guessing this movie must end very close to the start of Star Wars. Heck, I half expect it to end with someone handing the plans to a certain Princess (the back of her head- no face) telling the Captain to set a course for Tatooine, and the ship taking off. End Credits Roll.

And I'd be pretty damned happy to see that

I agree with this guess, but I don't think anyone will be 'handing' Leia anything- "Several transmissions were beamed to this ship by rebel spies".

M
 
They said that, eh? LOL. Must be true.

Seriously though. I hope so, but I take no stock in anything said or seen before the movie is released. We all know how they like to try to fool us.

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They have already said that this movie will end 10 minutes before epi 4 begins.

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They said that, eh? LOL. Must be true.

Seriously though. I hope so, but I take no stock in anything said or seen before the movie is released. We all know how they like to try to fool us.

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Sorry- about that last post- it won't let me edit it. Oh well.

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I agree with this guess, but I don't think anyone will be 'handing' Leia anything- "Several transmissions were beamed to this ship by rebel spies".

M

Nah--- it has to end with there being a new hope... If it ends with the Imperials starting a chase, it's too negative. The chase starts in Star Wars.

Granted- what I want and what you suggest can be completely different from how it will end.

I just hope I'm right LOL
 
I loathe capital ships in atmosphere.



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Why? I think aside from visual eye candy, it wouldn't make sense for them not to be able to in the star wars universe. The capital ships during the clone wars were shown in atmosphere at the end of Episode 2
 
Why? I think aside from visual eye candy, it wouldn't make sense for them not to be able to in the star wars universe. The capital ships during the clone wars were shown in atmosphere at the end of Episode 2

I know this is Star Wars but the physics of it make zero sense. Zooming across the atmosphere... perhaps, but hovering... no.

Pointing to the prequels, is hardly a winning argument. ;)
 
I know this is Star Wars but the physics of it make zero sense. Zooming across the atmosphere... perhaps, but hovering... no.

Pointing to the prequels, is hardly a winning argument. ;)

Well aside from being fictional, that criticism to be fair is based on our current understanding of physics.
 
Now where´s the sarcasm icon? :p

Regarding the look and feel, this is the most intense and grim looking Star Wars movie trailer that I have seen to date. We are looking forward to a drama, we are looking at THE ultimate weapon, and although we know that a single proton torpedo shot into the not so well engineered ventilation shaft of that doomsday machine, we do not know the outcome for all of those characters.

On a side note, I would really love to see an engineer come up to Krennik and say something like "Sir, I need you to sign this form so the Geonosians are officially reminded to come up with a solution to make that 2 metre wide exhaust port proton torpedo proof." and get a "Not know, can´t you see that I am busy with the Rebellion?!" "Alright, I will put it on for resubmission.

I'm wondering if the ventilation shaft is a deliberately well PLANNED and concealed weakness. Given that Jyns father seems to be involved under unhappy circumstances, and perhaps the first test firing seems to have gone slightly wrong perhaps as an act of sabotage , the DS maybe have been flawed by him and others because of the monstrous nature of the weapon. It kind of makes sense that the scientists ,as an act of rebellion, draft in a way of destroying the station, and the data Jyn retrieves from Scarif shows exactly this, just as we have seen in 'A New Hope' in the data R2 is carrying.
 
They have already said that this movie will end 10 minutes before epi 4 begins.

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Not exactly. KK and Gareth were asked if the film ends 10min before the start of ANH. Gareth said he couldn't answer and KK found the specificity of the number amusing but did not confirm that. However, I think it's a safe bet.
 
I'm wondering if the ventilation shaft is a deliberately well PLANNED and concealed weakness. Given that Jyns father seems to be involved under unhappy circumstances, and perhaps the first test firing seems to have gone slightly wrong perhaps as an act of sabotage , the DS maybe have been flawed by him and others because of the monstrous nature of the weapon. It kind of makes sense that the scientists ,as an act of rebellion, draft in a way of destroying the station, and the data Jyn retrieves from Scarif shows exactly this, just as we have seen in 'A New Hope' in the data R2 is carrying.

Yep, I think Jyn's Dad either builds in the exhaust port or is aware of it and that info is what the team is after.

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I know this is Star Wars but the physics of it make zero sense. Zooming across the atmosphere... perhaps, but hovering... no.

Pointing to the prequels, is hardly a winning argument. ;)

SD hovering in atmosphere were introduced in Rebels.
 
I guess we should burn those who believe the earth is round and that man can fly on the steak while we're at it?

I think you win the Godwin award of the day! Congratulations! You took a silly conversation about a movie and flipped over it.
 
I'm wondering if the ventilation shaft is a deliberately well PLANNED and concealed weakness. Given that Jyns father seems to be involved under unhappy circumstances, and perhaps the first test firing seems to have gone slightly wrong perhaps as an act of sabotage , the DS maybe have been flawed by him and others because of the monstrous nature of the weapon. It kind of makes sense that the scientists ,as an act of rebellion, draft in a way of destroying the station, and the data Jyn retrieves from Scarif shows exactly this, just as we have seen in 'A New Hope' in the data R2 is carrying.

I would be disappointed if the shaft was a planned weakness. Then to leave such a colossal achievement at the mercy of one person to deliver those plans? I mean, it could be plausible, but I'd just be disappointed in that.

I think you're along the right line that it was someone working there that noted the flaw, being a rebel sympathizer, seeing the colossal destructive nature of the DS, deciding to get that to the rebels.

Wait... Didn't they say in A New Hope, that they analysed the plans, and it was then that the weakness was discovered? That would imply that the weakness wasn't known before. So it could really be just a last ditch effort to get those plans in the hands of the rebellion before the station heads off blowin' stuff up.
 
I think you win the Goddard award of the day! Congratulations! You took a silly conversation about a movie and flipped over it.

- Complains about the physics of a star destroyer in atmosphere
- Doesn't question the physics of the death star, because reasons
- Reminded we're talking about a star wars film + Humanity doesn't know everything about the universe yet
- Makes condescending remark because nothing else to argue against

"That'll show him!"
 
I know this is Star Wars but the physics of it make zero sense. Zooming across the atmosphere... perhaps, but hovering... no.

Pointing to the prequels, is hardly a winning argument. ;)

There's the rub. Is this OUR universe, or another fantastic universe?

Personally, Star Wars has always been a complete fantasy, with absolutely no ties to our world. I don't want to know how things work there, or try to make sense of it in a practical way here. I'd just leave it at their universe works differently. Their tech is odd, but works. Hell, they have Jedi and Sith who control the FORCE with their freakin' will power.

I don't want to think or relate to Star Wars in any other way than in very broad general strokes of Good VS Bad or Empathy VS Apathy. I don't want the horrors of war and how they cause PTSD. Good simple stories of good conquering evil. And none of that Grey BS. From the bad person's point of view, they're doing good... It's too Earth.

Make me forget about our stupid problems. That's what I want from Star Wars.
 
I would be disappointed if the shaft was a planned weakness. Then to leave such a colossal achievement at the mercy of one person to deliver those plans? I mean, it could be plausible, but I'd just be disappointed in that.

I think you're along the right line that it was someone working there that noted the flaw, being a rebel sympathizer, seeing the colossal destructive nature of the DS, deciding to get that to the rebels.

Wait... Didn't they say in A New Hope, that they analysed the plans, and it was then that the weakness was discovered? That would imply that the weakness wasn't known before. So it could really be just a last ditch effort to get those plans in the hands of the rebellion before the station heads off blowin' stuff up.

I've watched 'A New Hope' this morning because of the trailer, and the phrase is "An analysis of the plans provided by Princess Leia has demonstrated a weakness in the battle station". Which could mean (to me ) that someone ,if they needed someway of trying to destroy an impossibly large space station, would perhaps attempt to design in a weakness. It just seemed to me that it was awfully convenient that the whole thing goes bang with one photon torpedo, but after watching the trailer and considering the story line of Jyn and her father .It really does seem a good solution. There maybe better.
 
There's the rub. Is this OUR universe, or another fantastic universe?

Personally, Star Wars has always been a complete fantasy, with absolutely no ties to our world. I don't want to know how things work there, or try to make sense of it in a practical way here. I'd just leave it at their universe works differently.

The answer to your question is in the opening seconds of the very first Star Wars film: "A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away...". So there you have it. Star Wars takes place a long time ago in a distant galaxy in our universe. If Star Wars took place in a different universe, it would've read, "A long time ago in another universe....".

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