New Elstree Studio documentary with discarded Graflex.

We should get Seth and Roy both in on this. Maybe Roy could do some CAD research using these new images and see how it lines up.

That thin-strip knurled button really makes me doubt that this was a screenused piece, but that doesn’t mean it wasn’t production made.

And, not to cast accusations, but there’s still the possibility that it’s a fake. I mean, if Kurtz—THE PRODUCER OF THE MOVIE—could sell fakes (to say nothing of a Christian, who supposedly built the actual screenused props), then that means anyone able to do a little research could, too. Especially if you have a very believable story as to how it came into your possession. Just pull out some old photos, find a rusty Graflex, stick a bubble-strip in, attach a d-ring, and bingo. That doesn’t seem to be the case, here, but you never do know.

I would be more dubious if he pulled out a pristine hilt with 100% of it still intact with parts that matched our current replica pieces and said something to the affect of “I found this in an old storage locker that had been sealed up by my father since 1977 and had totally forgotten it was there.”

The shape of this thing makes it highly likely that it was tossed away with the rest of the production garbage, just as he describes.

Like many, I think that this was a failed early attempt to make a bladed stunt that was merely thrown away.
 
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Just wanted to throw my input in here:

My interview with Roger Christian back is August is where we got the "supposed" information that he used a Robertson screw on the d-ring becasue he and Roger Shaw didn't have a rivet run. That is one of the few things he has stayed consistent on, so this hilt is confusing to say the least.

I've reached out to Roger again to see if he has any information on this particular hilt.
 
I would guess that going too hard with a Vice or Vice Grip Pliers would fold the emitter that way.

The socket is still intact, so that steel washer up top was probably a brace for a blade system against a cracked socket. I don't think they bent it to keep it in place. The thing is like tack welded into place so the brass tube probably folded around it. I read above that it's empty though, so not strong enough to fight with but I'll echo the probability of this being an attempt at a motorized stunt
 
Just wanted to throw my input in here:

My interview with Roger Christian back is August is where we got the "supposed" information that he used a Robertson screw on the d-ring becasue he and Roger Shaw didn't have a rivet run. That is one of the few things he has stayed consistent on, so this hilt is confusing to say the least.

I've reached out to Roger again to see if he has any information on this particular hilt.

Roger's word on matters isn't highly rated by a few of us here.
 
Roger's word on matters isn't highly rated by a few of us here.
Trust me, I couldn't agree more. Like I said in my original comment, his word is almost never consistent. I just meant I'd like an explanation to whether or not the rivets could be a serious tell or not.

I'm inclined to side against his word, yet again.
 
Trust me, I couldn't agree more. Like I said in my original comment, his word is almost never consistent. I just meant I'd like an explanation to whether or not the rivets could be a serious tell or not.

I'm inclined to side against his word, yet again.

Good point. It'll be interesting to see what he says about it :)
 
Man, the pictures of Andrew as a child playing in the X-Wing and the Landspeeder are just awesome. Fascinating to hear the perspective of someone who grew up in such close proximity to the production of all these awesome films and the totally different view point he has on all that than any of us do.
 
Man, the pictures of Andrew as a child playing in the X-Wing and the Landspeeder are just awesome. Fascinating to hear the perspective of someone who grew up in such close proximity to the production of all these awesome films and the totally different view point he has on all that than any of us do.

I want to point that while Andy walked around the sets many times, he is not the child in the xwing cockpit. I found those photos in facebook.
 
I would guess that going too hard with a Vice or Vice Grip Pliers would fold the emitter that way.

The socket is still intact, so that steel washer up top was probably a brace for a blade system against a cracked socket. I don't think they bent it to keep it in place. The thing is like tack welded into place so the brass tube probably folded around it. I read above that it's empty though, so not strong enough to fight with but I'll echo the probability of this being an attempt at a motorized stunt

Definitely stick welded. Huge nasty puddle, and it was so hot it tarnished the finish on the other side

I wonder if this was the idea before the motorized stunts, we see actors fighting with those green glowing fencing sabers.. wonder if this was before the whole “spin flicker” idea
 
The problem is we agree with Christian when it lines up with our theories, but reject him when they don't.

I have my own theory about Roger Christian..

... we the replica prop community have foiled his plans how many times now to pull a profit from his “real” lightsabers..

I don’t think he is a fan of us.. I wouldn’t be surprised if his inconsistent memory wasn’t old age creepy up on him... but him purposely giving false information to waste our time....
 
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