Magic of Myth ( MoM ) Luke RotJ Hero ( cave build ) lightsaber research, images, reference, & collaborative model builder's discussion.

I really asked for this one

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Wait, by stroke, what do you mean, exactly?!

This is A FAMILY establishment, sir! I'll thank you to keep any lurid behavior to yourself, and to not give any ideas to our weaker minded members!

Good DAY, sir!!!

Damn, maybe "members" wasn't the best choice of words, there.
 
Hi. I've been following RPF for donkey's years now, but I've always been too nervous to join in. Bit of the old impostor syndrome I guess! Well, I've been working on a 3D model of the cave build (with the intention of having it machined) and I just wanted to say a massive thank you for what you're doing here! There are photos on here that I've never seen before, and the various discussions on this thread (and previous ones) have really helped! So thank you! I've been backwards and forwards with this model a hundred times now, scaling to various blueprints and photos I've found around the internet. In the end I've opted to use the auction shot. Straightened up, then scaled to the correct length. I've then divided the image plane and used as a guide to snap my model to. My next step is to check my model against some of the other reference shots on here, before having the main pieces machined. Apologies for the long introduction! Just wanted to say a big thank you and share my progress. Any pointers, or comments are more than welcome. Cheers!
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Welcome Dave! Model is looking good! Note that ours, we are looking into logistics to do a production run, FYI. Something to consider. Tho I would never begrudge wanting to see your model manifested in reality.
 
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Welcome Dave! Good to see you plucking up the courage to post. Good luck with your build (pictures when it's done?).
Thanks :) Definitely. Can't wait to get started. Managed to source a few bits like the D-ring and the brass L strips, etc. Just need to be 100% satisfied with the body before I take the the plunge! Thanks for the welcome :)
 
Welcome Dave! Model is looking good! Note that ours, we are looking into logistics to do a production run, FYI. Something to consider. Tho I would never begrudge wanting to see your model manifested in reality.
Thanks :) I'd definitely consider putting my name down for one. Sure! I'm in the UK though unfortunately, which bumps costs up. One of the reasons I've opted to make my own, as well as the challenge. I've bought from Roman before and paid more in postage and customs charges than I did for the actual saber. Still worth it though :) Thinking I might do a run of 5 myself. Purely to help with machining costs. Not a commercial venture. Mine's going to be a static hilt though (for now) so I'd be interested in paying out for something more fancy. Thanks again for the welcome.
 
Thanks :) I'd definitely consider putting my name down for one. Sure! I'm in the UK though unfortunately, which bumps costs up. One of the reasons I've opted to make my own, as well as the challenge. I've bought from Roman before and paid more in postage and customs charges than I did for the actual saber. Still worth it though :) Thinking I might do a run of 5 myself. Purely to help with machining costs. Not a commercial venture. Mine's going to be a static hilt though (for now) so I'd be interested in paying out for something more fancy. Thanks again for the welcome.
I can certainly say the "trickiest" things to get correct if you are going for full screen accuracy are the grenade rings and plunge grooves, and the pommel gear.

BRRogers and I have agonized and gone back and forth on those two elements at least 200 times or more.
 
I can certainly say the "trickiest" things to get correct if you are going for full screen accuracy are the grenade rings and plunge grooves, and the pommel gear.

BRRogers and I have agonized and gone back and forth on those two elements at least 200 times or more.
I know what you mean! You think you've got it, then a new piece of info comes out, or you find a new photo! I hadn't seen half of these on this thread before I started. No doubt I'll be adjusting it a few more times before I'm done :) I *think* I'm happy with the grenade section, but I'm going to get it lined up with the close up shot on P1 tonight and it'll be a miracle if it all lines up first time! :-D
 
Your model is looking great! And welcome!

I'm already seeing a few spots with the grip rings that are off (as well as the pommel cubes and a couple other things), but it's close!

Keep it up!!
 
Your model is looking great! And welcome!

I'm already seeing a few spots with the grip rings that are off (as well as the pommel cubes and a couple other things), but it's close!

Keep it up!!
Thanks. Yeah. Definitely a few bits and pieces to tidy up still (especially the pommel cubes!). I was admiring your hero build earlier actually. Very nice. You've set the bar pretty high there! :)

I've just been testing my latest model against my main reference shot, and I was actually pretty happy with the grenade section.... I've stumbled on something though, and I don't know if anyone else has noticed this before?? This particular image is almost certainly cut out (badly) with a false shadow. So it turns out my primary reference isn't 100% reliable :( The irregular ellipses on the emitter gave it away while I was aligning my model with the image. There's also a chunk taken out of the D-ring. The more you look at it, the more obvious it becomes. Back to the drawing board! :D Apart from that it was lining up *fairly* well. Ha!

Thanks for the welcome :)
 

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Thanks. Yeah. Definitely a few bits and pieces to tidy up still (especially the pommel cubes!). I was admiring your hero build earlier actually. Very nice. You've set the bar pretty high there! :)

I've just been testing my latest model against my main reference shot, and I was actually pretty happy with the grenade section.... I've stumbled on something though, and I don't know if anyone else has noticed this before?? This particular image is almost certainly cut out (badly) with a false shadow. So it turns out my primary reference isn't 100% reliable :( The irregular ellipses on the emitter gave it away while I was aligning my model with the image. There's also a chunk taken out of the D-ring. The more you look at it, the more obvious it becomes. Back to the drawing board! :D Apart from that it was lining up *fairly* well. Ha!

Thanks for the welcome :)

Be wary. That photo is a photoshopped one of one that BR posted in the first post. It shows a chunk cut out of the main body where it narrows to the gear. It's a bad photoshop job and we all but discarded that particular photo from being used because it is not a raw photo.
 
I see what you mean on the plane image. 'Old school' cut & paste, literally.
I don't hold out much hope for my grenade rings! They look like someone's gone at them with scissors :s I'll get it lined up against the close up grenade shot later.
 
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Be wary. That photo is a photoshopped one of one that BR posted in the first post. It shows a chunk cut out of the main body where it narrows to the gear. It's a bad photoshop job and we all but discarded that particular photo from being used because it is not a raw photo.
I literally spend all day, every day on photoshop! I'm embarrassed I hadn't noticed until now. Oh well, I'm going to be checking it up against the better shots over the next few days. I'll definitely be on the lookout in future. Cheers.
 
I can certainly say the "trickiest" things to get correct if you are going for full screen accuracy are the grenade rings and plunge grooves, and the pommel gear.

BRRogers and I have agonized and gone back and forth on those two elements at least 200 times or more.

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So true as we’re at it again!


Currently re-assessing the pommel due in part to overlay assistance by Roy (which Roy ;) through/ with tandem note sharing Anakin Starkiller who is already off to the races adjusting the pommel to match photos to renders.

But at least at this point we know that we are super in the ballpark and Adam and I are thinking about a model that might include 2 pommel gears... since it seems the asymmetry is significant enough to establish an ideal and ‘canon’ variant.

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Above is (one of) the overlay graciously provided by AS/Roy of our model. At a glance it looks dead on but rest assured the minute variances are what drizzt1234 and I have been debating 200fold and are still adjusting.
 
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Indeed!
So true as we’re at it again!


Currently re-assessing the pommel due in part to overlay assistance by Roy (which Roy ;) through/ with tandem note sharing Anakin Starkiller who is already off to the races adjusting the pommel to match photos to renders.

But at least at this point we know that we are super in the ballpark and Adam and I are thinking about a model that might include 2 pommel gears... since it seems the asymmetry is significant enough to establish an ideal and ‘canon’ variant.

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Above is (one of) the overlay graciously provided by AS/Roy of our model. At a glance it looks dead on but rest assured the minute variances are what drizzt1234 and I have been debating 200fold and are still adjusting.
That looks pretty damn close! Roy's doing a great job lining your model up with the reference shots (which is a skill in itself!) Managed to check my grenade rings and pommel against some of the other references. The rings weren't too bad, but the pommel was WAY out :D I'd heard it mentioned that the rear slope on the blocks was different to the opposite slope; I was surprised by how much though! This prop is full of surprises! :)

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Am I right in assuming that the damaged/wonky control box happened long after filming? It appears to be fine in the cave scene. So it wouldn't necessarily be an idealised design to make it straight (as intended)? It looks to me to be just the rails that have become loose/bent?
 
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