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[sztriki]

"What's a duck?" -Luke Skywalker

Aaaaaaaah, my brain hurts just by that tiny fragment...that is one of the most horribly written schlock novelizations in existence. ADF had obviously no idea how the movie will feel and play out (neither did most to be fair) so he wrote it as his usual pulp sci-fi almost trying to be pseudo-intellectual and technical at places and it's just exactly what Star Wars could easily have become, a schlocky cheap pulp sci-fi like Flash Gordon.
I think there was even a line, something like "Kenobi said jovially as if he was discussing a stew recipe".

 

[Halliwax]

Todd Vaziri on Twitter

Was this cleaned up in the special edition? I don’t ever remember seeing this before

 

[sztriki]

Was this cleaned up in the special edition? I don’t ever remember seeing this before

Doubt it. Neither was the shadow of Vader's fencing rod in ROTJ nor the "force-kick". But hey we have blinking ewoks, rocks in front of R2, rontos, bigger Jabba gate, bellowing Vader...you know the essentials.
It's probably just something that most of us haven't noticed and it's probs better off like that. Every time that AT-AT blows up and falls I can't help but focus on the foot being knocked from below the stage. Same with a scene in Gremlins where a puppeteer can clearly be seen.

 

[Joek3rr]

I think Anakin would even move back to Tatooine..............

 

[Kovnyn]

Only -12? You had it easy. I think at one point it was -30 or so here. It was warmer at the south pole than in my area.

I recall reading somewhere what the average temperature was at Echo Base on Hoth, but don't remember what it was.

 

[Joek3rr]

Only -12? You had it easy. I think at one point it was -30 or so here. It was warmer at the south pole than in my area.

I recall reading somewhere what the average temperature was at Echo Base on Hoth, but don't remember what it was.

-30!!!! Ouch!

 

[sztriki]

Only -12? You had it easy. I think at one point it was -30 or so here. It was warmer at the south pole than in my area.

I recall reading somewhere what the average temperature was at Echo Base on Hoth, but don't remember what it was.

Maybe it's Fahrenheit...

 

[CT1138]

While the V2 is my favorite, I always loved that Luke's saber in ANH had a lighter sky blue shade. Obi-Wan's was a deeper blue and Luke's appeared to match this in color by the time of Empire. In my mind I had the idea it was because Luke had tuned up the saber so that it's crystal alignment was better and the color was richer as a result. In reality it was likely just different exposures of film and the rotoscoping but I always enjoyed that lighter color on his saber.

That bright green flash as Luke ignites his saber on the skiff in Jedi after he catches it is still one of my favorite moments in the series and still puts a smile on my face. That whole battle is one of the highlights of that movie for me.

The very first time we see one, when Luke ignites his father's in Ben's hut, all flickery and pale silver-blue.

Yeah the flickering of the first film (and also to a lesser degree) in Empire in Jedi really made the blades look alive. You really got the sense that these things were dangerous and could do damage if they touched something. In the subsequent films the flickering is barely present the way it was in the first three. It's a minor detail but one I think really sells the idea of an energy blade.

The sky blue color and the flickering effects are two of my favorite details about the original lightsaber effects, but I also enjoyed how in the OT, the lightsabers didn't give off light. It felt otherworldly, like the lightsabers were created with technology you couldn't find on Earth. This effect went on all the way through TPM. Then AotC came along and lightsabers suddenly became glowsticks...

And it kept getting progressively worse until now, you can barely tell the color is there at all.

In the PT and the OT, the color was very strong, and defined. Now it's barely registered as there.

Another thing I loved about the OT lightsabers was how they came to a blunt end. They didn't need a point, because they could already cut through anything.

Again, something the PT had to mess with...

But a feature I thought was cool in the first movie, and lost thereafter was that the lightsaber blade seemed to be 2D, and flat. It's not easy to spot, but if you watch the tip and the shroud of the blade, you can see how it has this flattened effect.

 

[Inquisitor Peregrinus]

Joek3rr, you never did clarify whether you meant favorite prop costume to have/wear versus from the films...

 

[Joek3rr]

Joek3rr, you never did clarify whether you meant favorite prop costume to have/wear versus from the films...

I guess I was thinking ones from the films, but if you want to share one would love to own. Please share! I really want this thread to be open to anything and everyone, as long as it's Star Wars!

 

[Inquisitor Peregrinus]

CT1138, I have always liked to see if applying science to stuff in fiction can yield anything like a plausible, even if only theoretical, model. And it pleased me greatly when, a good twenty years ago, some folks who really know their physics-- practical, theoretical, quantum... -- catalogued all the observed phenomena of the OT lightsabers and came up with a surprisingly practical and cogent explanation. That includes the bluntly rounded tip and the fact that, though bright, they don't light up much of anything.

I've posted it elsewhere, but it's always in my mind when contemplating, discussing, or building the things.

 

[Inquisitor Peregrinus]

I guess I was thinking ones from the films, but if you want to share one would love to own. Please share! I really want this thread to be open to anything and everyone, as long as it's Star Wars!

I just wanted to know how to approach my answer. I think my favorite costume, as movie artifact, is the Mudtrooper from Solo. We have seen the Imperial Starfleet personnel that the Stormtroopers supplement as shock troops before, from Veers to the AT-ST crew in ROTJ, but this was the first time we saw the Imperial Army infantry in the field, at the front. It all fit perfectly, both with what had gone before (the helmet, the goggles, the chest armor...) and with the general WWI/II inspired aesthetic of the OT.

I would like to build one or three at some point.

I think my favorite from a practical-effect-appreciation standpoint is the Range Trooper boots, again from Solo. Love a hundred and fifty parts each, electronics, pneumatic, feedback sensors... All to get that mag-lock effect. Awesome.

When it comes to "to own" is where things get conjectural -- or downright confrontational. Like, I'm doing a U-wing pilot -- but in the OT-authentic cotton twill, rather than the out of place nylon used in Rogue One. And box-pleated sleeve trim, rather than knife-pleated. Etc. My Jedi robes are derived from how Luke's costume for ROTJ was conceived before being altered. The 181st pilot I'm doing for a friend is researched from the interior art, rather than the oft-cited -- but contradictory -- cover art. Stuff like that.

All of those I'll be proud of when finished, albeit in part due to the "this is how it should be" effect. But I also feel that taints the purity of said pride. Probably my top 5 list of relatively drama-free costumes in progress are:

- I'm doing a custom Clone Wars Jedi General outfit that, because of my height, incorporates partial Republic Commando armor. I love all the things I drew from that go into it -- Senate Commando helmet, Force Unleashed II power meter for the Jedi Order badging, Clone Wars microseries Obi-Wan clone armor for the conchos that hold his modified robe in place, the pilots' headsets he and Anakin wear in the Prequels...

- ANH Stormtrooper officer garrison uniform. They made new, different versions of the black uniforms for ROTJ, but I love this original version for its subtle differences from the standard cut of the other Starfleet uniforms. Full wardrobe of accessories -- coated-fabric greatcoat, a la Rogue One and Solo, torso armor, kabuto helmet, rain poncho. And my over-engineered Merr-Sonn sidearm blaster.

- White "Supertrooper" Boba Fett costume. Love those blasters, love that flamer, even working on an urban-camo pattern for the cape inspired by the colors on the beach towel used for the roll-out.

- Storm Commando. Like, an actual one, from the original art, with help from the original artist. It's not a black Biker Scout, and I'm looking forward to the rest of the process of the long headache of modeling, printing, molding, and casting the armor pieces. I have a few folks lined up to help me, so it's not as daunting as it might otherwise be.

- The one that started it all, when I first fell in love with these guys in 1982 when I first saw them in ROTJ promo material. Not finished, by a long shot, but I love how much I've learned along the way:

 

[Joek3rr]

I just wanted to know how to approach my answer. I think my favorite costume, as movie artifact, is the Mudtrooper from Solo. We have seen the Imperial Starfleet personnel that the Stormtroopers supplement as shock troops before, from Veers to the AT-ST crew in ROTJ, but this was the first time we saw the Imperial Army infantry in the field, at the front. It all fit perfectly, both with what had gone before (the helmet, the goggles, the chest armor...) and with the general WWI/II inspired aesthetic of the OT.

I would like to build one or three at some point.

I think my favorite from a practical-effect-appreciation standpoint is the Range Trooper boots, again from Solo. Love a hundred and fifty parts each, electronics, pneumatic, feedback sensors... All to get that mag-lock effect. Awesome.

When it comes to "to own" is where things get conjectural -- or downright confrontational. Like, I'm doing a U-wing pilot -- but in the OT-authentic cotton twill, rather than the out of place nylon used in Rogue One. And box-pleated sleeve trim, rather than knife-pleated. Etc. My Jedi robes are derived from how Luke's costume for ROTJ was conceived before being altered. The 181st pilot I'm doing for a friend is researched from the interior art, rather than the oft-cited -- but contradictory -- cover art. Stuff like that.

All of those I'll be proud of when finished, albeit in part due to the "this is how it should be" effect. But I also feel that taints the purity of said pride. Probably my top 5 list of relatively drama-free costumes in progress are:

- I'm doing a custom Clone Wars Jedi General outfit that, because of my height, incorporates partial Republic Commando armor. I love all the things I drew from that go into it -- Senate Commando helmet, Force Unleashed II power meter for the Jedi Order badging, Clone Wars microseries Obi-Wan clone armor for the conchos that hold his modified robe in place, the pilots' headsets he and Anakin wear in the Prequels...

- ANH Stormtrooper officer garrison uniform. They made new, different versions of the black uniforms for ROTJ, but I love this original version for its subtle differences from the standard cut of the other Starfleet uniforms. Full wardrobe of accessories -- coated-fabric greatcoat, a la Rogue One and Solo, torso armor, kabuto helmet, rain poncho. And my over-engineered Merr-Sonn sidearm blaster.

- White "Supertrooper" Boba Fett costume. Love those blasters, love that flamer, even working on an urban-camo pattern for the cape inspired by the colors on the beach towel used for the roll-out.

- Storm Commando. Like, an actual one, from the original art, with help from the original artist. It's not a black Biker Scout, and I'm looking forward to the rest of the process of the long headache of modeling, printing, molding, and casting the armor pieces. I have a few folks lined up to help me, so it's not as daunting as it might otherwise be.

- The one that started it all, when I first fell in love with these guys in 1982 when I first saw them in ROTJ promo material. Not finished, by a long shot, but I love how much I've learned along the way:

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If there's one thing I absolutely love from these new films. It's all the Stormtrooper variants we are getting to see. It makes the Empire seem so big and like they have endless resources. That they can outfit different types of stormtrooper depending on the world's environment.

 

[Joek3rr]

The sky blue color and the flickering effects are two of my favorite details about the original lightsaber effects, but I also enjoyed how in the OT, the lightsabers didn't give off light. It felt otherworldly, like the lightsabers were created with technology you couldn't find on Earth. This effect went on all the way through TPM. Then AotC came along and lightsabers suddenly became glowsticks...
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And it kept getting progressively worse until now, you can barely tell the color is there at all.
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In the PT and the OT, the color was very strong, and defined. Now it's barely registered as there.
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Another thing I loved about the OT lightsabers was how they came to a blunt end. They didn't need a point, because they could already cut through anything.
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Again, something the PT had to mess with...
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But a feature I thought was cool in the first movie, and lost thereafter was that the lightsaber blade seemed to be 2D, and flat. It's not easy to spot, but if you watch the tip and the shroud of the blade, you can see how it has this flattened effect.
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Just went through some of the lightsaber scenes. Somethings I noticed.

For the OT and TPM the blades seem slightly taper with the tips being flat or slightly rounded. The blades having a point seems to have started with ATOC.

The very pale silvery blue blade seen in TLJ is very close to they way the saber looks on the Falcon.(depending of which version of the film you have)

And the lightsabers don't give off light in any of the PT except for the one scene in ATOC. I wonder how the filmed that. And of course theyou give off light today because of the use of props that light up. Which makes me wonder. In the OT and some degree PT. Do the lightsabers look the way they do because of the limitations in technology?

 

[CT1138]

Just went through some of the lightsaber scenes. Somethings I noticed.

For the OT and TPM the blades seem slightly taper with the tips being flat or slightly rounded. The blades having a point seems to have started with ATOC.

The very pale silvery blue blade seen in TLJ is very close to they way the saber looks on the Falcon.(depending of which version of the film you have)

And the lightsabers don't give off light in any of the PT except for the one scene in ATOC. I wonder how the filmed that. And of course theyou give off light today because of the use of props that light up. Which makes me wonder. In the OT and some degree PT. Do the lightsabers look the way they do because of the limitations in technology?

Yeah, it did start in AotC, but it became really noticeable in RotS and in TCW. And I never liked how the lightsaber looked on the Falcon, especially how it's downright green in some of the shots.

The lightsabers give off a glow a few times throughout RotS whenever the blade comes close to a face. It's the worst in the ST and the Clone Wars CG animated series. In the latter, there's actually quite a few scenes where Jedi characters use their lightsabers for flashlights. THIS is all the glow I need from lightsabers:

 

[Joek3rr]

Yeah, it did start in AotC, but it became really noticeable in RotS and in TCW. And I never liked how the lightsaber looked on the Falcon, especially how it's downright green in some of the shots.

The lightsabers give off a glow a few times throughout RotS whenever the blade comes close to a face. It's the worst in the ST and the Clone Wars CG animated series. In the latter, there's actually quite a few scenes where Jedi characters use their lightsabers for flashlights. THIS is all the glow I need from lightsabers:
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I'm going to be honest here........I'm not seeing any glow.......

EDIT: I mean on Luke's face or clothes, thought I better clarify

 

[CT1138]

I'm going to be honest here........I'm not seeing any glow.......

EDIT: I mean on Luke's face or clothes, thought I better clarify

Precisely.

 

[russellsch]

Todd Vaziri on Twitter

HAA! I've never seen that before. I feel so ashamed

Was this cleaned up in the special edition? I don’t ever remember seeing this before

He is still in the special edition.

 

[russellsch]

I could be wrong, but I think the first time we see a reflection of a lightsaber blade... is on Darth Vaders helmet in the Energizer Bunny commercial, from '94 or '95.

 

[Joek3rr]

I could be wrong, but I think the first time we see a reflection of a lightsaber blade... is on Darth Vaders helmet in the Energizer Bunny commercial, from '94 or '95.

Yep sure is