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modelcitizen
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Lucasfilmanon crap...
all they used mark for was an old facial image and his voice for dialogue. another actor was used on film or hd cam whatever the kids use these days. jeez.
all they used mark for was an old facial image and his voice for dialogue. another actor was used on film or hd cam whatever the kids use these days. jeez.
I'll still take him over Rose.Honestly I don't think it will ever be revealed what's truly happening with the leadership there and whether there really is a civil war happening to oust Kennedy. Frankly I don't care who runs it because there's nothing worth saving there if you ask me.
Normally I don't link to "geek" sites like the following, but the excerpts they have from this latest fossilized turd of a book confirm it's even worse than what was initially reported:
Star Wars: The High Republic Is An Absolute Embarrassment, New Character Is Just A Rock
A brand new character introduced in Star Wars: The High Republic is literally a rock named Geode.boundingintocomics.com
And for those who may not want to sift through all the pop ups here's the relevant info:
A brand new character introduced in Star Wars: The High Republic is literally a rock named Geode.
Introduced in Star Wars: The High Republic: Into the Dark by Claudia Gray, Geode is the navigator of the starship called The Vessel that is piloted by Leox Gyasi of the Byne Guild. When he’s introduced in Into The Dark, Grey writes, “But all conversation came to an end as Leox and Affie stopped their group at the edge of the cockpit. ‘And this here,’ Leox said with a grin, ‘is our ship’s navigator, Geode.'”
That narration reads, “Standing in one corner of the cockpit was a rock.”
It continues, “About as tall as and slightly wider than Reath himself, dark gray, with rounded edges and a flinty, flaky surface. Impressive as rocks went. But still, it was just a rock, wasn’t it? Reath frowned, sure this was some kind of weird joke.”
It’s not a joke. Gyasi explained, “He’s a Vintian, from Vint.” The pilot added, “Geode’s a nickname, by the way. Turns out you can’t pronounce his name correctly unless you don’t have a mouth.”
Gray later writes, “Leox cackled as he began leading them from the cockpit into the ship. ‘Yeah, you just wait. But I don’t want to give you fellas the wrong idea. Geode’s a wild man, for sure, but when it comes to steering the ship, he’s all business.'”
Gray continued, “‘Solid, you might say. Orla raised an eyebrow. ‘Very well. Let’s get a look at our bunks.'”
You can read the excerpt from the book below.
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In another section of the book, it’s revealed that it will be nine years before Geode goes into his “next mating smelt.”
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So not only can "he" navigate a ship but every nine years can also get his rocks off.
HeartBlade
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I don’t understand why vandalize Luke Skywalker in the first place. Do the people in Lucasfilm not like Luke, the character that basically made their paychecks? Dislike Luke and Vader all you want but without them, there isn’t a Star Wars.
You can argue that some toxic fans and the accusations of Star Wars fans being misogynistic have made it near impossible to fire Kennedy from an optics standpoint. I still think her incompetence is more than enough grounds to get her released (the polite way is possibly differing visions but she did torpedo a money printing machine into the ground).again, I didn’t expect her to be the creative genius planning out the next trilogy like Lucas with Spielberg but I expected her to know her stuff on Star Wars like the EU comics, popular storylines, key concepts that need to be rigid and plan a 3 movie series based on that. She has to have researchers that can type that up in a short 1 page bullet point format that she can review.
robn1
Master Member
Where did anyone say otherwise?
Sources from inside Lucasfilm have said that Kennedy is absolutely livid about the success and popularity of The Mandalorian, because it draws attention from her own properties. They say she insisted that Grogu be written out of the show, and Favreau feared she would axe the Luke scene if she knew about it.
Well if they made the Sequels, then made a rock character, there sure as hell better be some kind of coup in the works to get that company back on track!
Nth
Sr Member
Yes, she has actively demonstrated a pattern of trying to hamstring The Mandalorian since the beginning. In fact her firing of Gina Carano was more likely attributed to the fact Cara Dune became a popular character on the show and this is once again Kennedy finding an opportunity to kick the legs out of what has essentially become a rival (and more popular) IP to her vision of what Star Wars should be.
HeartBlade
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sounds like Kennedy is taking the stance of its my way or the highway, the highway being the utter demolition of the Star Wars franchise.
I was actually under the impression that Kennedy was more clueless than tyrannical, that he just didn’t understand Star Wars and was using her position to get more women into film and was thus surprised to find a lot of her female staff to be extreme feminists. These rumors, if true, paint Kennedy in a very different picture.
Also have to wonder, what is with the hate against Lucas? I watched some videos about Kurtz and Kershner on ESB and the comments were all about praising these 2 for “saving” Star Wars and critiquing Lucas. I agree Lucas has weaknesses (bad with dialogue and directing actors) but he still wrote the scripts for the OT and PT and the ideas tackled in PT were quite brilliant but just badly delivered. I think just comparing the PT with the ST shows a remarkable difference in quality of new ideas and storylines.
Lucas himself also seems like a pretty great person in private. He seems friendly with fans and doesn’t bash them despite the ton of hate he got for the prequels and special editions. Hell, he even joins the robot chicken parodies to laugh at himself. He may have “wasted” his talent by not directing more small films in his prime and focusing on money earned selling toys.
Also kind of suspecting that Star Wars is over and done with as a franchise. Didn’t realize how much hate there were for the prequels but the People vs George Lucas just shows that Lucas may not be able to revive Star Wars. Disney has crashed the franchise and I don’t know who can right the ship.
I was actually under the impression that Kennedy was more clueless than tyrannical, that he just didn’t understand Star Wars and was using her position to get more women into film and was thus surprised to find a lot of her female staff to be extreme feminists. These rumors, if true, paint Kennedy in a very different picture.
Also have to wonder, what is with the hate against Lucas? I watched some videos about Kurtz and Kershner on ESB and the comments were all about praising these 2 for “saving” Star Wars and critiquing Lucas. I agree Lucas has weaknesses (bad with dialogue and directing actors) but he still wrote the scripts for the OT and PT and the ideas tackled in PT were quite brilliant but just badly delivered. I think just comparing the PT with the ST shows a remarkable difference in quality of new ideas and storylines.
Lucas himself also seems like a pretty great person in private. He seems friendly with fans and doesn’t bash them despite the ton of hate he got for the prequels and special editions. Hell, he even joins the robot chicken parodies to laugh at himself. He may have “wasted” his talent by not directing more small films in his prime and focusing on money earned selling toys.
Also kind of suspecting that Star Wars is over and done with as a franchise. Didn’t realize how much hate there were for the prequels but the People vs George Lucas just shows that Lucas may not be able to revive Star Wars. Disney has crashed the franchise and I don’t know who can right the ship.
Nth
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And today it's being reported Favreau just fired the writing staff Kathleen Kennedy appointed him due to "Creative Differences" and says he and Filoni will solely take on the writing duties.
Kathleen Kennedy is apparently livid. Any day Kathleen Kennedy is unhappy is a day food tastes better, the sun shines brighter and Star Wars takes one step closer to pulling itself out of the pit it's in.
It was also revealed Kathleen Kennedy had it out for Gina Carano since season one of the Mandalorian and tried several times to get Bob Chapek to authorize removing her from the show. My personal opinion on this is that all of Kathleen Kennedy's female characters in Star Wars came off as so unlikable and even downright grating, that she was upset when a female character she didn't create came along and got over big with the fans, especially in the merchandising department. While Holdo and Rose toys rotted (literally) on store shelves, Cara Dune merch was (and still is if you count the bootleg stuff) selling like crazy.
Kathleen Kennedy is apparently livid. Any day Kathleen Kennedy is unhappy is a day food tastes better, the sun shines brighter and Star Wars takes one step closer to pulling itself out of the pit it's in.
It was also revealed Kathleen Kennedy had it out for Gina Carano since season one of the Mandalorian and tried several times to get Bob Chapek to authorize removing her from the show. My personal opinion on this is that all of Kathleen Kennedy's female characters in Star Wars came off as so unlikable and even downright grating, that she was upset when a female character she didn't create came along and got over big with the fans, especially in the merchandising department. While Holdo and Rose toys rotted (literally) on store shelves, Cara Dune merch was (and still is if you count the bootleg stuff) selling like crazy.
CB2001
Master Member
Personally, I'm just confused, and can't figure out where the truth ends and the hypothesis begins. But, so far, Kathleen Kennedy not making any statements about the firing of Currano doesn't help her if it's a legit firing, at least from what I can tell. And personally, I'd like to know what is real and what isn't.
ThreadSketch
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...I just realized - big missed opportunity in not naming the rock character Fraggle to make it an even nerdier pun.
ScourgiousJinx
Master Member
It's really a sad day for Lucas Film when mocking new SW content becomes much more fun than watching/reading it. Firing KK is not going to fix all the issues at Lucasfilm as the problems there clearly extend farther than her reach, but would be a step in the right direction.
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ScourgiousJinx
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Actually many young adults (the target demographic of the novel) feel & have expressed that "The Rock" is completely ridiculous and content as such is talking down to them. Young people are often much more intelligent& imaginative than they get credit for.
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Age and gender have nothing to do with the quality (or lack thereof) of the writing and once again unfairly places the onus of blame on the consumer, not on the writer, which is clearly where it belongs. I'm pretty certain most people with any shred of intelligence can agree how insanely stupid Geode is as a "character" and as an idea.
Besides here we are all over again debating the merits of story credibility and the leadership of a company that green lit the idea in the first place when it seems obvious to me that calling out bad ideas isn't just warranted but necessary.
I swear the polarization of this Fandom couldn't be more evident. If anything this book should be a moment of unity and if Lucasfilm wants to keep their content relevant and financially viable they should be willing to take feedback, even when it's not positive. The only reason we are at the point of discussing the merits of a **** -ing rock as a "character" is because fans willingly keep throwing down their cash which only tells Lucasfilm to keep churning out more garbage.
Vote with your wallet folks. Otherwise you'll just keep getting more gems like Geode. If you expect better then demand better with your hard earned dollars. It's the only recourse you have because that's all corporations respond to.
Besides here we are all over again debating the merits of story credibility and the leadership of a company that green lit the idea in the first place when it seems obvious to me that calling out bad ideas isn't just warranted but necessary.
I swear the polarization of this Fandom couldn't be more evident. If anything this book should be a moment of unity and if Lucasfilm wants to keep their content relevant and financially viable they should be willing to take feedback, even when it's not positive. The only reason we are at the point of discussing the merits of a **** -ing rock as a "character" is because fans willingly keep throwing down their cash which only tells Lucasfilm to keep churning out more garbage.
Vote with your wallet folks. Otherwise you'll just keep getting more gems like Geode. If you expect better then demand better with your hard earned dollars. It's the only recourse you have because that's all corporations respond to.
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harrisonp
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I think most of the division stems from Star Wars being too big to too many people, making it impossible to define.
The OT seems to be beyond anything but lovingly nostalgic criticism, the Prequels the same for a different generation. The underlying issue at this point is that there’s just too much Star Wars now and our expectations ,varied as they are, are pulling people apart. Mole hills become mountains become conspiracies and corporate upheaval.
If 99% of these ideas were in new original IP movies I doubt many of us would have much to say, or would like these new properties for their choices.
If Starlord had a rock as a copilot it would be a fan favorite.
I love Star Wars, much of the concepts and designs live permanently rent free in my brain, but I believe with all these things said and done that it’s time for the Galaxy Far Far Away to take the long sleep. Let new SW inspired IP grow from the absence.
The OT seems to be beyond anything but lovingly nostalgic criticism, the Prequels the same for a different generation. The underlying issue at this point is that there’s just too much Star Wars now and our expectations ,varied as they are, are pulling people apart. Mole hills become mountains become conspiracies and corporate upheaval.
If 99% of these ideas were in new original IP movies I doubt many of us would have much to say, or would like these new properties for their choices.
If Starlord had a rock as a copilot it would be a fan favorite.
I love Star Wars, much of the concepts and designs live permanently rent free in my brain, but I believe with all these things said and done that it’s time for the Galaxy Far Far Away to take the long sleep. Let new SW inspired IP grow from the absence.
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