Lets talk all things Star Wars

[HeartBlade]

Yeah Jedi survivors who refused the call or even abandoned the Jedi order make sense but having people like Ezra, Kanan, and Asoka be predominant members of the rebellion and never even be brought up to Luke would raise questions. Even if the worst Jedi can’t take on Vader, they are still a huge addition to the rebel forces.

in regards to tv shows, I find that Japan takes the complete opposite approach for some reason. Apart from historical dramas which are the CSI/Law & Order equivalent, most dramas only last 1 season with the really popular ones having 2 or 3 max. After a successful 2nd or 3rd season, the show will often have a movie to end the series with a big conclusion (the movie being a separate story so new comers can enjoy while fans get the references). I don’t know the economics about why this occurs (I think it has to do with contracts).

From my understanding, US tv show runners are also willing to “run their shows into the ground” so to speak because of their relationships with the cast and crew. A long running show results in a consistent and growing paycheck which is something anyone can appreciate. It’s kind of hard to end a super popular show for “artistic integrity” when a network is offering a ton of money that would guarantee you and the people you work with a consistent paycheck for at least another year.

 

[Psab keel]

I can understand the obvious business angle. I'd much prefer quality to quantity though.

 

[Inquisitor Peregrinus]

A long running show results in a consistent and growing paycheck which is something anyone can appreciate.

I see what you did there...

Regarding Jedi and the Rebellion and Luke... Red Leader knew who he was. He knew what his father had done in the Clone Wars. It would be apparent Luke's no Jedi. People would know the Order was no more. People would have a sense Jedi need other Jedi to train them, and Ben Kenobi was gone now. Kanan was never knighted, and hid his past as a Padawan, despite not being able to bring himself to get rid of his lightsaber. He also hadn't wanted to get involved with the Rebellion -- specifically because he was trying to keep a low profile. Then the Force-sensitive boy he was training disappeared and he himself died, just as the Rebel cells were starting to work together. Hera continued, but he was gone. It's entirely likely some mentioned some or all of that to him, but probably not before the battle.

And then it's three years between that film and Empire. I'm gonna wager he learned about any previous Jedi or quasi-Jedi who had been associated with the Rebellion or its early movers and shakers. We just didn't see it onscreen.

 

[ghostryder]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1360274700962721798

 

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[ScourgiousJinx]

Good god, 5 minutes in that aisle. That's all I ask.

 

[Psab keel]

Sand-O-Vision makes everything better! Man what a great glimpse into the making of one of my favorite movies. I can only imagine how excited Jeff must have been! The really wild thing is that some of the shots he gets here are the final shots from the movie, just from a different angle. When you've watched the trilogy so exhaustively like we have you can see it instantly. Also seeing everyone in their prime, like George, and Mark, Carrie and Harrison is a thrill too! I wonder if Jeff got lucky enough to meet them?

Oh seeing those aisles jam packed with Star Wars toys.... it just brings me back to the one of two times I got to see an aisle like that at my local Odd-Lots in my home town. Star Wars toys weren't available much in my area and by the time I could get my hands on them they had mostly gone. I had more G.I. Joes than any other action figure growing up, partly because they were inexpensive and they were everywhere. Star Wars toys were a rarity in my part of Conneticut by the time I was old enough to play with figures that scale. Oh how I would love to go back in time and buy out than entire store!!!

 

[HeartBlade]

Speaking of Star Wars products.

Not an eFX fan (my love for replicas and props started with Master Replicas) but I would act just like Jordan here lol. I love Conan but wouldn’t trust him with a graflex.

 

[JoeG]

"Scanning some Star Wars obscure helmet website"

Conan knows who we are!

 

[HeartBlade]

"Scanning some Star Wars obscure helmet website"

Conan knows who we are!

who is jim Jub who tipped Jordan off that the new helmets are in. And does he have a down payment on the new boba fetts?

Jordan seems to be a pretty serious Star Wars fan (another has him having 2 Star Wars figures in case and there is an episode where he goes to LucasArts). His job also gives him the disposable income for the finer things in life.

Also watch watching and noticed that when grevious faces off against Obi Wan, 2 of his 4 lightsabers are Anakin’s (bottom right) and his own (top right). Likely spare stunts or Obi isn’t as creative as he thought he was lol.

 

[harrisonp]

I think they just reused the assets from when Grievous has their lightsabers on The Invisible Hand.

 

[dascoyne]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1360274700962721798

Though I have endured decades inconsistent and clumsy storytelling in the SW franchise, that piece if artwork still managed to get me a little choked up.

 

[Sluis Van Shipyards]

Oh seeing those aisles jam packed with Star Wars toys.... it just brings me back to the one of two times I got to see an aisle like that at my local Odd-Lots in my home town. Star Wars toys weren't available much in my area and by the time I could get my hands on them they had mostly gone. I had more G.I. Joes than any other action figure growing up, partly because they were inexpensive and they were everywhere. Star Wars toys were a rarity in my part of Conneticut by the time I was old enough to play with figures that scale. Oh how I would love to go back in time and buy out than entire store!!!

I also had a LOT more GI JOE toys mainly because I liked the extra articulation and for some reason I thought Star Wars toys were for little kids (I was 10... oh the irony!). I would love just to go back and visit one of the local toy stores! Heck I'd love to go back and tell my younger self to hold onto my SW toys because I gave them to a neighbor! At least I sold my Transformers, GI JOEs, etc.

 

[ghostryder]

 

[Psab keel]

Stabbing wasn't even a thing until the prequels likely because the effect would have been too difficult to achieve back in the early days of ILM. As the tech evolved, so did the choreography. Sword fights in movies are more realistically defined as sword dances and far removed from actual martial combat, regardless of the styles used to influence the choreography. It's all about what looks good on camera.

 

[Sluis Van Shipyards]

Stabbing wasn't even a thing until the prequels likely because the effect would have been too difficult to achieve back in the early days of ILM. As the tech evolved, so did the choreography. Sword fights in movies are more realistically defined as sword dances and far removed from actual martial combat, regardless of the styles used to influence the choreography. It's all about what looks good on camera.

I like the turn on/off idea! That would be interesting to see in a movie/tv show/game. As for stabbing I remember one of the old EU books where I think Mara Jade uses the lightsaber to stab and Luke comments that he wasn't taught that technique. I think in the movies it's mainly because they either treat the lightsaber as a fencing weapon (OT) or a combination foil/katana in the Prequels so there's no stabbing I guess.

 

[Psab keel]

I mean they kind of did similar things with stabbing in the ST. One guy getting a saber to the face too. It's not a bad technique and I do recall Mara using it in the Heir the Empire Trilogy at some point. I just laugh at the comparison between real world sword combat and most film portrayals of sword fighting because there is often little to no relationship between the two. Though I would LOVE to see it more realistically done. I'd be mighty impressed if I saw moves like this in a Hollywood blockbuster:

 

[Inquisitor Peregrinus]

It's almost like the people who used those weapons on a near-daily basis and relied on them for their survival and that of their supporting nation-state were clever and resourceful and developed both graceful technique and dirty stay-alive tactics and counter-tactics. I'd love to learn broadsword fencing. I'm still in early stages here, because COVID kind of interrupted everything. But I have this, that I don't suck with and want to learn more of the period style like what you just showed, Psab keel:

Between the focus of Kendo and the adaptability of European Broadsword, I feel, is where lightsaber combat should truly lie -- not in twirls and energy-wasting flourishes:

 

[Ron]

I would think turning off your lighsaber to 'pass through' a block would leave you open for a quick counter attack. Plus lightsabers (post ANH) extend and retract too slowly for such a move to work anyway.