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I hate having to constantly ask, but I keep seeing things like this on YouTube. Is George actually coming back and doing this?


Short answer: No.

Longer answer: No, because he sold the rights to Disney, which means that any attempt by him (unless brought on board by Disney specifically) to do his own Star Wars would be...copyright violation (also trademark, probably).

I was wondering myself and whilenit didn't particularly bother me I get your point. Similar to the scene in Star Trek Into the Wrath of Khan when Cumberbatch announces in his glass cage that his real name is Khan. Everybody gasps whereas they really just should have said "erm...ok dude". But since Khan was familiar to the audience it had to be the gasp moment in the movie too.

Yes!! Exactly! It's relying on the meta-narrative experience of the audience to sell moments, without regard to what is organic to the narrative itself. The Khan thing is a perfect example of larger problems in both JJ's Trek films and his Star Wars films.

It's like bad fan-fic. It's about entertaining the fan instinct, rather than telling a good story. Now, you can absolutely do both. But JJ never really seems to want to, I guess because that's either too much work, or he doesn't understand the difference. So he's either lazy or he's really just a crummy storyteller. But he does this throughout both Trek and Wars. Meanwhile, he doesn't develop the narrative to a point that he makes clear things like what the Resistance is vis a vis the Republic in TFA. We're just supposed to...get it. And the Resistance is basically just renamed Rebels. And the Republic is just the Republic (some ineffectual, soon-to-be-overthrown nebulous government that we never really see).

But the point in my original post is that this stuff is simply part of the DNA of his Star Wars. It's there from the biggest, most obvious stuff, to the smaller, less obvious things like naming Ben "Ben" in the first place. It's the failure to take that extra step and say "Wait. Why would these characters do this thing?" Why would Leia and Han name their kid after Obi-Wan Kenobi's nickname? That'd be like naming your son after your brother-in-law's favorite teacher from high school. "We really wanted to honor Mr. Cooper. He was such a big influence on my brother-in-law's life." Uh.....oooook.....

No, obviously it's not that. He's named that because it's a wink to the fans. "We named him after Obi-Wan because it's what you guys would want." And the thought process never went past that point. Or if it did, it was ignored. That is why JJ is a terrible storyteller.


Someday I would like to see a book (or series of books) of the whole SW story told from Palpatine's point of view.

All it would say is, POWAH! UNLIMITED POWAHR!

Also, at least according to TROS, "I've met this smokin' hot gal from Chandrilla. Think I'm gonna see if she wants to come back to my place and check out my lightsabre collection. If you get what I'm sayin', heh heh heh."

To which Vader replies "Master, we always get what you're saying." Good thing Palps can't see Vader rolling his eyes under that mask...
 
No, obviously it's not that. He's named that because it's a wink to the fans. "We named him after Obi-Wan because it's what you guys would want." And the thought process never went past that point. Or if it did, it was ignored. That is why JJ is a terrible storyteller.
I think the thought process was like this:
Okay so we got our big scene with Solo and Kylo on the bridge...so Han calls out to him using his real name. Hmmm...what would be a name that resonates and sounds emotional...? Harry? No that's lame and we need a starwarsy name. Caldion? No, people will wonder wtf that is, let's just pick an older name. Anakin? Meh too on the nose. Ben would be okay. Cool, moving on.
Quite like how redlettermedia portrayed the concept of order 66.

Also, at least according to TROS, "I've met this smokin' hot gal from Chandrilla. Think I'm gonna see if she wants to come back to my place and check out my lightsabre collection. If you get what I'm sayin', heh heh heh."
Not anymore, apparently Rey's dad is now a lame Palpy clone too... :lol: For real.
To which Vader replies "Master, we always get what you're saying." Good thing Palps can't see Vader rolling his eyes under that mask...
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The only thing that Khan reveal in Into Darkness was missing was a...
On the other hand, a perfect example of how to use fan service effectively while staying true to the narrative is the Joker card reveal at the end of Batman Begins. Most of today's filmmakers would've easily made it one of those "DUN DUN DUUUUN!" moments too but here Nolan has the good sense to let Batman just reply with a casual "I'll look into it".

Amazing how great movies can be when they're made by people who respect the intelligence of the audience.
 
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Don’t believe a single thing mike zeroh says...

master of click bait..

I refuse to watch any of his propaganda...

Though, I really enjoyed the clips of his pugs though.. love pugs

He use to dress them up in Star Wars costumes, always made me chuckle

Look deeply into the eyes of Zeroh, Halliwax...
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...deeper....
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.....you WILL believe the “Shocking News” that Keanu Reeves will star in Episode 10...
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...and, please, also “like” and “subscribe”.
 
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The funny thing is the damn kids a millionaire on false information lol

Like weathermen, can be wrong every day and still keep their job

To be fair, a weatherman gives an approximation of the weather based on accumulated data.

But here's the odd thing, he's not the only one reporting this rumored "civil war". Now others have reported it, too. And some are reporting a mixture of details that seem weird, not just George Lucas apparently getting involved, but stuff like plans on retconning the entire sequel trilogy, James Earl Jones reported to have recently visited Skywalker Ranch, Iger cancelling that all female centric TV series (and writing team bashing on Star Wars canon, saying it was BS) and Kennedy being pissed off that she wasn't given her share of the credit for her "involvement" in The Mandolorian (apparently, it's reported she suggested the story have Mando looking over a child ala Lone Wolf and Cub style). Who the hell really knows what's going on there? And how do we know what information is true and what is BS? At times like these, I miss the days when we didn't know about movies or shows coming out until we saw a promo trailer.

To hell with the confusion and rumors. I say, let's just watch this funny clip and leave it all behind us.

 
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To be fair, a weatherman gives an approximation of the weather based on accumulated data.

But here's the odd thing, he's not the only one reporting this rumored "civil war". Now others have reported it, too. And some are reporting a mixture of details that seem weird, not just George Lucas apparently getting involved, but stuff like plans on retconning the entire sequel trilogy, James Earl Jones reported to have recently visited Skywalker Ranch, Iger cancelling that all female centric TV series (and writing team bashing on Star Wars canon, saying it was BS) and Kennedy being pissed off that she wasn't given her share of the credit for her "involvement" in The Mandolorian (apparently, it's reported she suggested the story have Mando looking over a child ala Lone Wolf and Cub style). Who the hell really knows what's going on there? And how do we know what information is true and what is BS? At times like these, I miss the days when we didn't know about movies or shows coming out until we saw a promo trailer.

To hell with the confusion and rumors. I say, let's just watch this funny clip and leave it all behind us.


Lmao!!!
 
If they need Artoo to hack anything, they're also likely to need an interpreter. It always struck me as something not very well thought out. Okay, astromechs are supposed to be "below-stairs" servents who ordinary people never interact with, so they don't need to speak Basic. But by the time period of the films it was common enough to have them on starfighters, so why hadn't speech software been added rather than pulling the pilot's attention down to a translator screen? Seems like such a minor thing to implement. I love the idea of them having an utterly uninflected British accent. Maybe voiced by Julian Sands. I just have this lovely mental image of Chopper threatening someone like a New York City tough guy, and we just hear an utterly unflappable "I say, sir, you have vexed me for the last time. I shall beat you soundly about the head and shoulders -- see if I don't."

At any rate, there are too many situations where people need to understand astromechs and don't, or need to pull their situational awareness out of a battle to read a screen, that them still speaking exclusively Droidspeak seems like a bit of a flaw in the setting.
 
So I was watching ROTJ the other morning while doing my workout. There's something that always bugged me. I on earth did they bring Threepio on a commando mission? Artoo I understand. But a bright golden droid that talks to much? That's a terrible idea.
Same, been bugging me for years. Sticks out like a sore thumb while everyone is in camo, awkward, clunky and unless someone saw the ewok misadventure's coming absolutely no use in a commando squad.
 
Aye, it was. Threepio's main contribution was that no one on the strike team had a clue on how to verbally communicate with the Ewoks (though Leia, as a bred diplomat, did a good job of forging a quick relationship with young Wicket despite the language barrier - I'm guessing the tribe was impressed with his account of her killing those white-armored SOBs and made that swag forest princess dress for her as a result, lol). At the end of it, while Luke saved them from being turned into some really gruesome smoked brisket (or, uh, spared the Ewoks from just having to be fought off or killed in self-defense, because let's be real here, Luke could've easily pulled another Jabba's sail barge-style butt-kicking if they were in mortal peril), Threepio conveniently being able to talk to them and translate was what got the furballs on the Rebels' side.
 
3PO didn't necessarily have to accompany Han, Leia, and Chewie in Empire. In fact he became a burden to them when he got blown to pieces and Chewie had to lug him around on his back. Not that these things bothered me in the least with Empire but griping about C-3PO's presence on Endor seems silly when he actually served more purpose in Jedi.

The point of his inclusion in the adventure is that he's part of the main cast. I think there are far more contentious points that could be argued than this one.
 
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