Is this the PERFECT Obi-Wan EP1 saber?

[Crimsonnaire]

<div class='quotetop'>(lonepigeon @ Oct 21 2006, 03:40 PM) [snapback]1342374[/snapback]</div>

So you think that SithLord's is a poor cast from an MR AOTC?
I admit it seems it could be.
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All I'm saying is that it most probably wasn't cast from either the Obi TPM or AOTC heroes because of the fact that the AOTC hero, itself, was cast from the EP1 hero, and it has none of the discrepancies that Sithlord's stunt shows. I don't know much about casting, but I highly doubt a recast of the Obi TPM would yeild a smaller pommel, raised grip depth, and angled edges where the original was rounded, all of which happen to be present on the MR Obi AOTC. The Obi AOTC VD hero looks exactly like the knurled-rodded stunt posted above, except with chrome plating and without the rod. At the same time, I acknowledge the possibility that Sithlord's stunt was cast off a hero that never had a closeup because of several sightings of this saber that we haven't been able to identify its exact version. However, if this is the case, it would mean that this was the mystery hero given to MR to replicate back in 2002, and consequently, it would also mean that MR reproduced this hero with 100% accuracy in proportion...

 

[Anakin Starkiller]

Here are a couple of more pics of my stunt


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Dan
DDStokes@aol.com

 

[Crimsonnaire]

<div class='quotetop'>(SithLord @ Oct 21 2006, 04:09 PM) [snapback]1342387[/snapback]</div>

And what's going on here with the misalignment of the black ridges?
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I imagine this could be the simple result of the mold having been impacted on one side before the material fully solidified.

If you don't mind my asking, can you tell us the circumstances surrounding your purchase of this stunt?

 

[Crimsonnaire]

This is interesting. Notice the gap between the emitter section and the grip section that's joined by the o-ring. I always thought that the section below the o-ring was a 90-degree angle. This may reveal clues to its construction.

 

[Anakin Starkiller]

<div class='quotetop'>(Imperious825 @ Oct 21 2006, 09:26 PM) [snapback]1342400[/snapback]</div>

This is interesting. Notice the gap between the emitter section and the grip section that's joined by the o-ring. I always thought that the section below the o-ring was a 90-degree angle. This may reveal clues to its construction.
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That is exactly why I posted that pic.

The silver emmiter head sleeve is just that, a sleeve that slides over the black ribbed section. It is completely separate from the other silver sections

Dan

 

[Anakin Starkiller]

Here is another interesting feature of the saber's construction

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Dan


And here is a comparison pic of my pommel and the new render.

Some food for thought

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[SithLord]

Here's mine against the MR...

And that ring detail on mine compared to Anakin Starkiller's...

 

[Anakin Starkiller]

Sithlord,

I'm sorry to say it but from those comparison pics, it really looks to me like your saber was cast directly from a MR AOTC saber.

I would contact the person you bought it from and try to get some answers.

Dan

 

[Darth Lars]

SithLord: Your's red button has knurling, while the MR AOTC does not. However, it is an incorrect knurling. I wonder who made it.

Edit: I was wrong about the MR AOTC. Please excuse me. The red button is knurled. However, the knurling of those I have seen pics of does not match SithLord's saber.

 

[Crimsonnaire]

<div class='quotetop'>(Anakin Starkiller @ Oct 21 2006, 04:34 PM) [snapback]1342405[/snapback]</div>

The silver emmiter head sleeve is just that, a sleeve that slides over the black ribbed section. It is completely separate from the other silver sections
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Well, now. Looks quite a few collectors will be reinventing this saber. :lol

In light of this revelation, I'm wondering if that o-ring is even a rubber o-ring...

 

[SithLord]

<div class='quotetop'>(Darth Lars @ Oct 21 2006, 06:24 PM) [snapback]1342430[/snapback]</div>

SithLord: Your's red button has knurling, while the MR AOTC does not. However, it is an incorrect knurling. I wonder who made it.
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I know it does. It's not cast from an MR. It's a direct casting from an original obtained by a crewmember. But it is not a production casting.


<div class='quotetop'>(Anakin Starkiller @ Oct 21 2006, 06:17 PM) [snapback]1342426[/snapback]</div>

Sithlord,

I'm sorry to say it but from those comparison pics, it really looks to me like your saber was cast directly from a MR AOTC saber.

I would contact the person you bought it from and try to get some answers.

Dan
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Could someone take their MR Obi AOTC and remove this clip ring? I want to see what's inside the hole. There's very specific detail inside the hole of my saber. That will prove the point. If this was cast from an MR, then someone removed the clip ring before molding the MR and making my saber, right? So the interior detail should be identical...according to your theory.

How do you explain this difference in step size?

 

[Anakin Starkiller]

The button on the MR saber does indeed have knurling
http://www.rebelscum.com/mr/mr-obiwanaotcsaber8.jpg

Dan

 

[SithLord]

<div class='quotetop'>(Anakin Starkiller @ Oct 21 2006, 06:45 PM) [snapback]1342439[/snapback]</div>

The button on the MR saber does indeed have knurling

Dan
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But the knurling pattern is completely different. The MR pattern is like the TPM pattern. The pattern on mine is unique.

 

[lonepigeon]

<div class='quotetop'>(SithLord @ Oct 21 2006, 10:37 PM) [snapback]1342435[/snapback]</div>

<div class='quotetop'>(Darth Lars @ Oct 21 2006, 06:24 PM) [snapback]1342430[/snapback]

SithLord: Your's red button has knurling, while the MR AOTC does not. However, it is an incorrect knurling. I wonder who made it.
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I know it does. It's not cast from an MR. It's a direct casting from an original obtained by a crewmember. But it is not a production casting.
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Darth Lars - Actually the MR red button is knurled, incorrectly (male knurl) just as SithLord's is.
More evidence that it may be a recast MR.

SithLord - How are you so sure? No one here can find any proof of that claim.
Just from the pics posted I can tell that Dan's is cast from the TPM Hero.

I took the Covertec of my MR AotC and shot a pic.

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From what I see it looks like your stunt SithLord.

 

[SithLord]

Would someone mind getting an image like this from the MR?

 

[SithLord]

<div class='quotetop'>(lonepigeon @ Oct 21 2006, 06:54 PM) [snapback]1342442[/snapback]</div>

I took the Covertec of my MR AotC and shot a pic.

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From what I see it looks like your stunt SithLord.
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What's inside the hole? Any thread marks or?

 

[Anakin Starkiller]

Sithlord,

You have a PM, any BTW

Does this look familiar

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Dan

 

[lonepigeon]

<div class='quotetop'>(SithLord @ Oct 21 2006, 11:16 PM) [snapback]1342451[/snapback]</div>

What's inside the hole? Any thread marks or?
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The hole is fairly deep (smooth sides). It goes through the sleeve and the black part and then there's a smaller threaded hole in the center rod (the same rod that shows in the grip section) for the Covertec screw.

Here's the other requested pic:

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Looks like yours has an added o-ring under the button, but otherwise the same.

 

[SithLord]

<div class='quotetop'>(lonepigeon @ Oct 21 2006, 07:31 PM) [snapback]1342458[/snapback]</div>

Looks like yours has an added o-ring under the button, but otherwise the same.
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Otherwise the same? The pattern is completely different on the red button...

<div class='quotetop'>(lonepigeon @ Oct 21 2006, 07:31 PM) [snapback]1342458[/snapback]</div>

The hole is fairly deep (smooth sides). It goes through the sleeve and the black part and then there's a smaller threaded hole in the center rod (the same rod that shows in the grip section) for the Covertec screw.
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So then it doesn't have two concentric lines evenly spaced in the interior of the hole, along with this particular oval shaped structure with a circular indentation in the center? It should.... .

 

[Darth Lars]

<div class='quotetop'>(SithLord @ Oct 22 2006, 12:37 AM) [snapback]1342435[/snapback]</div>

How do you explain this difference in step size?
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The sleeve is not part of the step, right?

I am ready to believe that your saber is a cast of an original, because it looks a bit like the
(second) Hero that was shown on the "Dressing a Galaxy" exhibit.
Except for the strange emitter, that one looks a lot like the MR AOTC.

There are also what appears to be remnants of holes in your's pommel cubes, right?
Could you show better pics of them?

<div class='quotetop'>(Anakin Starkiller @ Oct 22 2006, 12:45 AM) [snapback]1342439[/snapback]</div>

The button on the MR saber does indeed have knurling
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So I remembered wrong, and did not check it. Please excuse me. Nobody is perfect.
When I check pics, the male knurl on MR's (those sabers I have pics of) does not match the button on SithLord's saber.