Is this the PERFECT Obi-Wan EP1 saber?

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I was thinking of making the Obi-Wan stunt saber to go with my Maul stunt sabers, but decided that even the best efforts to replicate this saber have been less than perfect.

The MR Elite looks amazing, but seems to have quality variance issues. Jedivic's saber is ... well, ok, it's probably perfect, but he took a couple artistic liberties (flush-mount covertec, raised portion near LEDs, radiused portion before emitter flare), and none of us can get a Jedivic saber anyway.

So, after many hours in the CAD booth, I've finished what I think are pretty much dead-on CAD plans for an Obi saber. I'm not sure whether I'll ever produce one of these, but wanted to show it off anyway. What do you think?

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Comparison .gif to the Visual Dictionary. It was tough to get the angle exactly right, but this is pretty darn close.

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You don't show enough of the CAD drawing for me... I have many opinions on it. :)

* The LED bezels don't have any step at the bottom. They are perfect cut cones.
* All edges in the windows in the emitter shroud should be 90 degrees to the surface of the tube.
None of them are slanted inwards.
* The grooves in the emitter shroud are too wide.
* The black thing between the "neck" and emitter shroud is a rubber O-ring.
* The grip shroud should be a little bit rounder. There is not a perfect angled cut at the bottom of the curve.
* The first black ring after the thick section with the Covertec knob should not start at the same diameter as the thick section but be thinner.

Otherwise, Good job.

No need for you to replicate the red button. You can get it from Roman's Empire.
 
<div class='quotetop'>(Darth Lars @ Oct 19 2006, 07:14 PM) [snapback]1341139[/snapback]</div>
You don't show enough of the CAD drawing for me... I have many opinions on it. :)

* The LED bezels don't have any step at the bottom. They are perfect cut cones.
* All edges in the windows in the emitter shroud should be 90 degrees to the surface of the tube.
None of them are slanted inwards.
* The grooves in the emitter shroud are too wide.
* The black thing between the "neck" and emitter shroud is a rubber O-ring.
* The grip shroud should be a little bit rounder. There is not a perfect angled cut at the bottom of the curve.
* The first black ring after the thick section with the Covertec knob should not start at the same diameter as the thick section but be thinner.

Otherwise, Good job.

No need for you to replicate the red button. You can get it from Roman's Empire.
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Lars: Thanks for the comments. Regarding your corrections:

* You're right about the LEDs, and the emitter shroud grooves. I'll change those.
* You're totally right about the emitter shroud windows, but I couldn't figure out how to make the cuts correct in the CAD drawing, and was forced to make them look like that: slanted inwards. A machinist working from these plans could simply be told how they need to be done. Actually, as I type this, I just figured out a way to do it right in the CAD. I'll change that too.
* I know that the black part is a rubber O-ring -- not sure what this comment is about. Same with the red button. I suppose the same would go for the Covertec clip.
* I suppose the grip shroud is a little sharp ... I'll see about fixing that in the CAD.

I'll do some revisions and repost some pics later on. Glad you guys like it.
 
The black thing between the "neck" and emitter shroud is not an o-ring. It is part of the black ribbed section underneith the silver emmiter sleeve.

Dan
 
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The black thing between the "neck" and emitter shroud is not an o-ring. It is part of the black ribbed section underneith the silver emmiter sleeve.

Dan
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Actually it should be an o-ring.
 
I am by no means a saber expert, but I see a couple of differences with it compared to my saber which is cast from the original.

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I am by no means a saber expert, but I see a couple of differences with it compared to my saber which is cast from the original.
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SithLord - You're photo comparison pictures the original Hero saber so if you see differences it's a problem with your "cast from original".
 
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The black thing between the "neck" and emitter shroud is not an o-ring. It is part of the black ribbed section underneith the silver emmiter sleeve.

Dan
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Actually it should be an o-ring.
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Chris, I actually own an EP 1 stunt saber and it doesn't look like an O-ring to me

Dan

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I am by no means a saber expert, but I see a couple of differences with it compared to my saber which is cast from the original.

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Sithlord,

I don't know the providence of your resin saber, but if it is cast from an original, then the orginal was not the same model shown in the VD.

Dan Stokes
DDStokes@aol.com
 
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Sithlord,

I don't know the providence of your resin saber, but if it is cast from an original, then the orginal was not the same model shown in the VD.

Dan Stokes
DDStokes@aol.com
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Ya, that's what I'm guessing...I'll see if I have other matching reference. It's from a crew member of the production. I have a production mold as well, but haven't tried making a casting from that yet to see how it compares.
 
It's gonna be hard to top Vic's Obi TPM. I held that saber, and it was truly a masterpiece. Upon comparing details with the MR Obi TPM, I found Vic's to be overall superior with the exception of 5 extremely minor details, two of which were the deliberate result of customization, which is what's amazing about it because all of his reference were confined to pictures. From all the Obi TPM's I've seen, only two stand out: Vic's Obi TPM and the latest HK SS O.

But who knows. Yours might turn out to be the best. From what you've described, everything looks OK. What's left that matters are the individual measurements for each section. Good luck.
 
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Chris, I actually own an EP 1 stunt saber and it doesn't look like an O-ring to me

Dan
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The O-ring is only half exposed showing just a curved edge.
I'm sure it's not very obvious from a stunt saber.
 
James Kenobi, with the exception of the brush finish, your Obi TPM is actually the Obi AOTC, or rather, the MR Obi AOTC, which isn't necessarily a bad thing because certain parts are more accurate to the original Obi TPM than the MR Elite.
 
No thats a TPM...technically the AOTC is a TPM as well, MR just made it different.

From what I can see this is dead on...what makes you see it as AOTC?
 
I mean to say that the Obi TPM pictured above was referenced from an MR Obi AOTC. Undeniable signs include the pommel having the same diameter as the main body section right above, with the cubes made taller to compensate, and a protrusive endcap that has an identical radius of the MR Obi AOTC cap, which would be a triple coincidence on its own, in addition to the identical depth of the slot cut for the grips on the main body. A detail that matches neither the Obi TPM nor MR AOTC would be the emitter columns, which I have to believe was an unintentional error because no other source of reference shows them that way.

However, as aforementioned, I still say it's a fine replica of the Obi TPM, simply due to the fact that the MR Obi AOTC maintains a good majority of details from the EP1 saber.
 
I really like the discussion going on here. I'll post the updates as soon as I have them done; let's make this sucker perfect.
 
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