what happened to disney?

EyeofSauron

Master Member
so after watching aladdin once again, i thought to myself: whats with disney nowadays. a few years ago, they made amazing movies, id say up to about hercules or toy story, and then they completely switched paths.

now they make crap like pirates of the carribean twenty two or something, or tv series like hanna montanah
has disney really become such a corporate sellout, that it goes Quantity before quality?
walt disney would rotate in his grave if he saw what happened to his work

so, why not use those good old storys, that filled cinemas and tv chairs alike those years ago, and keep doing that?
 

Onkelpsycho

Sr Member
I think Disney have to go with his audience... Maybe people want to see stuff like hannah montana, or one of the "lets-make-some-computer-animated-stuff-with-cheap-3D-effect-and-some-bad-jokes-without-putting-any-heart-in-the-movie" movies. POTc as cool, after all I like all 3. the 4th is bad.

I dont know what Disney itself would do, but personally I think people still love the good ole Disney stuff...
 

Laffo

Sr Member
Tangled is the best Princess movie they've made since before Little Mermaid. That's the Disney downfall to me. Ariel did it.
Laffo.
 

The Rock-a-who

Well-Known Member
Tangled was good, imo. I think right now they're trying to find their stride again.

While technically Pixar == Disney, Disney is still trying to find it's footing with CGI cartoons. Chicken Little was one of their first attempts and failed, Tangled I feel was their 'breaking out' movie while they're trying to transition from traditional 2d to 3d. So, my opinion is they're on the learning curve for 3d features, saving 'traditional 2d' as a press-release marketing-ploy to generate interest.

Princess and the Frog wasn't bad for their last 2d feature.

But right now, my opinion is they're trying to find their 'voice' again with the new direction and are stumbling a bit trying to get their.
 

JiminSTLouis

Sr Member
My daughter, and all her friends, love Hannah Montana. If there weren't a market for it, they wouldn't make it. Disney is still making great movies too:

Winnie the Pooh
Toy Story 3
Tron (well, maybe not Tron)
Tangled (already mentioned)
Secretariet (awesome movie)
UP
A Christmas Carol
Wall E
etc....
 

Wes R

Legendary Member
They lost sight of everything Walt Disney built the company on: quality and a good story. It's like all the studios, as soon as they got taken over by corporate conglomerates and the old studio system of the 40s and 50s ended the quality went down.
 

smurf

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Tangled was a great Princess movie, as good if not better than many of their classics. It was a really poor marketing campaign that hurt it the most. I had no interest in seeing it until I got word of mouth when it came out on video.

Sweet
 

Apollo

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A few friends of mine were arguing about that a few months ago.

All I said is once Walt thaws out he is going to go on one major a$$ kicking rampage.


so after watching aladdin once again, i thought to myself: whats with disney nowadays. a few years ago, they made amazing movies, id say up to about hercules or toy story, and then they completely switched paths.

now they make crap like pirates of the carribean twenty two or something, or tv series like hanna montanah
has disney really become such a corporate sellout, that it goes Quantity before quality?
walt disney would rotate in his grave if he saw what happened to his work

so, why not use those good old storys, that filled cinemas and tv chairs alike those years ago, and keep doing that?
 

jakob2121

Sr Member
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Another vote for Tangled. It was a great swan song for that chapter of Disney. It's a shame it was overlooked by so many people. It's a Pixar world now, for better or worse. Disney is just a logo and a checkbook.
 

bschossler

Well-Known Member
I will put in another vote for tangled. Toy Story 3 was also a really good movie even though it was Pixar
 

JPolacchi

Sr Member
Disney sold out like the rest of Hollwood did.Now they just make S*&$@!?#. They just go with the safe/reliable formula for a cartoon/movie idea and bet on making a killing because little kids want to see stuff like singing princesses,robots,monsters,aliens and its easy to entertain a 3-7 year old.Just cheap humor/tricks done in the past re-invented.I.M.O, Disney hasn't done anything good at least with animation since the 90's. I admit, I did like Dreamer.That was a pretty decent film.
 

Therent

New Member
Disney used to have a monopoly on the talent. When Katzenberg left for DreamWorks he took good talent with him. Now Pixar is developing work in house as well. The increased competition certainly has affected them. Pixar currently holds the crown.
 

JPolacchi

Sr Member
Well,don't give them too much credit. While I enjoyed the first Toy Story, A Bug's Life, Finding Nemo and the Incredibles,the rest to me have been duds.Especially "UP".It was nothing spectacular and I.M.O.It wasn't worthy of an Oscar nomination,let alone beating out Coraline for it.I think the Oscar comittee plays "favorites" and Disney has the influence since they have been around for so long. Up just flat out sucked and aside from the goofy looking bird and Doug the talking dog along with the iother talking dogs,it wasn't al that entertaining.It was like watching the odd couple thoughout half the film between the old man and the annoying ADHD kid Russel bickering.The dogs were just there for comic relief,nothing more and as io mentioned before.Its easy to entertain a theater full of 3-7 yr. olds with some old gags,potty humor and other regurgitated comedy.
 

BoozeBeGood

Sr Member
Actually I really enjoyed "Up".

Different strokes for different folks. Not everything by Disney has been bad but I agree a lot of the classics were better, IMO
 

The Rock-a-who

Well-Known Member
I read DisneyWar about a year ago. Highly recommend it. It was after I read it I realized Disney is more of an acquisition company (ESPN, ABC, Pixar, etc) than creative nowadays. It was really interesting to see titles like "Gnomeo & Juliette" and some others that have slipped my mind mentioned since this book was released in 2005.
 

Goonie

Sr Member
I'm really enjoying their Disneynature line of movies (earth, Oceans, Crimson Wing, African Cats, and next year's Chimpanzee, as well as Pollen which was released in France)
 

Alan Cross

Sr Member
Gotta defend 'UP.' Great movie. The death of his wife... the miscarriage... come on, man. There was a lot more going on in that movie than talking dogs.
 

nickytea

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"UP" will go down as one of the most significant movies of our time, mark my words.
 
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