The Wand Company TOS Tricorder is coming!

[FANATICO]

Ok….now that this round of frenzy buying is over……back to more of my B.S.

Someone early on in this thread had received their Tricorder and thought it looked somewhat off dimensionally….too small in height or too wide…something like that.

For you old timers…..does anyone know if Wah’s Heros were constructed by him using the metric system or the imperial system?

If the imperial system was used, then what’s the possibility that Wands scanning measurements was strictly in metric and not directly converting from Jein’s Tricorder which might have been dimensioned in imperial system units? Perhaps in rounding up or down in metric system dimensions places?

Hence, the appearance seeming somewhat off dimensionally?

A somewhat analogy (how mistakes happen) too not using the right system is when a spacecraft bit the dust on entry to mars….



From the gooog…..

…..”

• one team was sending units in one system and the other team was expecting them in the other unit system. This was a clear problem caused by a root cause of mixed units, not by failure of either unit system to be accurate enough or conversions to be accurate, but in communications where the units were not clearly called for nor specified in the communications. Had either team and their computer programs stuck to either all metric or all USCS then there would not have been a problem. The follow on problem was assumptions and procedures. The units were not clearly specified in the program procedures.”…..

In essence did Wand use the metric system instead of imperial system to engineer the Tricorder? And the appearance may be off due to rounding up or down in metric units?

Jus thinking…

 

[Trooper_trent]

Another nitpicky thing I just thought about.
I've seen it mentioned on the FB group (maybe here as well) that the flat heat slotted screws above the strap aren't accurate and a few people have replaced them with more accurate looking domed head slotted screws.

Well looking at how the strap attaches I noticed the screws that hold the strap ARE domed! I wonder why they decided to go with inaccurate flat top screws when they used properly domed ones internally?

So I thought, “I wonder if they’re the same thread and could simply be swapped out!”

Turns out, Kind of! Lol

They are the same thread but they’re not the same length and the strap screws have a smooth area to allow the strap to not rub against threads.

Swapping them out kind of works though. The longer screw now pokes through the internal of the lower bay but it doesn’t interfere with anything and isn’t visible unless you’re looking right at it.
And the shorter strap screws does work if you don’t mind pressing that smooth bit through the Kydex hole of the side panel so it can grab the aluminum threaded hole beneath it.

I’m not going to keep it this way but it actually does kind of work to swap out the internal, more accurate domed screws for the flat ones!

Original domed strap screw

Inaccurate flat screw above the strap installed in its place.

It protrudes a bit but doesn’t get in the way.

Domed screen installed on the upper side panel (you have to push it hard through the Kydex hole to gain purchase)

 

[Simonized]

Another nitpicky thing I just thought about.
I've seen it mentioned on the FB group (maybe here as well) that the flat heat slotted screws above the strap aren't accurate and a few people have replaced them with more accurate looking domed head slotted screws.

Well looking at how the strap attaches I noticed the screws that hold the strap ARE domed! I wonder why they decided to go with inaccurate flat top screws when they used properly domed ones internally?

So I thought, “I wonder if they’re the same thread and could simply be swapped out!”

Turns out, Kind of! Lol

They are the same thread but they’re not the same length and the strap screws have a smooth area to allow the strap to not rub against threads.
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Swapping them out kind of works though. The longer screw now pokes through the internal of the lower bay but it doesn’t interfere with anything and isn’t visible unless you’re looking right at it.
And the shorter strap screws does work if you don’t mind pressing that smooth bit through the Kydex hole of the side panel so it can grab the aluminum threaded hole beneath it.

I’m not going to keep it this way but it actually does kind of works though to swap out the internal, more accurate domed screws for the flat ones

Original domed strap screw
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Inaccurate flat screw above the strap installed in its place.
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It protrudes a bit but doesn’t get in the way.
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Domed screen installed on the upper side panel (you have to push it hard through the Kydex hole to gain purchase)
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You know, when I put the Weaver Leather strap on earlier I noticed and thought the same thing, the exterior are flat and interior are domed (as the originals were) I haven't thought much further than that yet but if I was going to swap I would probably buy domed screws as opposed to swapping the ones around on there.
Does anyone know the screw size of the back and side panels? The back seems oddly threaded just at the tip

 

[Leinads]

I the believe the US standard of the time wound gave been

Ok….now that this round of frenzy buying is over……back to more of my B.S.

Someone early on in this thread had received their Tricorder and thought it looked somewhat off dimensionally….too small in height or too wide…something like that.

For you old timers…..does anyone know if Wah’s Heros were constructed by him using the metric system or the imperial system?

If the imperial system was used, then what’s the possibility that Wands scanning measurements was strictly in metric and not directly converting from Jein’s Tricorder which might have been dimensioned in imperial system units? Perhaps in rounding up or down in metric system dimensions places?

Hence, the appearance seeming somewhat off dimensionally?

A somewhat analogy (how mistakes happen) too not using the right system is when a spacecraft bit the dust on entry to mars….



From the gooog…..

…..”

• one team was sending units in one system and the other team was expecting them in the other unit system. This was a clear problem caused by a root cause of mixed units, not by failure of either unit system to be accurate enough or conversions to be accurate, but in communications where the units were not clearly called for nor specified in the communications. Had either team and their computer programs stuck to either all metric or all USCS then there would not have been a problem. The follow on problem was assumptions and procedures. The units were not clearly specified in the program procedures.”…..

In essence did Wand use the metric system instead of imperial system to engineer the Tricorder? And the appearance may be off due to rounding up or down in metric units?

Jus thinking…

According to OpenAI:

During the 1960s, the United States primarily used the Imperial (also called U.S. customary) measurement system in both art and industrial design.

Although the metric system was gaining popularity internationally by the 1960s, the U.S. did not formally push metrication until the Metric Conversion Act of 1975, which was voluntary.

 

[Trooper_trent]

You know, when I put the Weaver Leather strap on earlier I noticed and thought the same thing, the exterior are flat and interior are domed (as the originals were) I haven't thought much further than that yet but if I was going to swap I would probably buy domed screws as opposed to swapping the ones around on there.
Does anyone know the screw size of the back and side panels? The back seems oddly threaded just at the tip

They're M4 screws.
Yep, same. I saw someone on the FB group spent a week trying to find the correct M4 dome head slotted screw and found some but the dome was much more exaggerated. aka TOO tall. But like I said, I didn't leave it like that. I was just curious if it was possible and it is. I've been on the lookout for suitable round head screws but I haven't been spending a lot of time on it. I just saw these round ones on the strap and my curiosity got the better of me.

BTW The one on the back is a captive screw so you don't lose it, hence only partially threaded.

These are the ones the guy on FB found. but yeah they're a bit too domed for my taste.

 

[FANATICO]

Swapping them out kind of works though. The longer screw now pokes through the internal of the lower bay but it doesn’t interfere w

It protrudes a bit

There are tools that have screw cutters ….usually part of a wire stripper and crimper combo tool. At your own risk, this tool feature will cut your screw to the size you need. In your case to reduce protrusion. There’s probably a metric equivalent tool.

 

[FANATICO]

I the believe the US standard of the time wound gave been

According to OpenAI:

During the 1960s, the United States primarily used the Imperial (also called U.S. customary) measurement system in both art and industrial design.

Although the metric system was gaining popularity internationally by the 1960s, the U.S. did not formally push metrication until the Metric Conversion Act of 1975, which was voluntary.

Ok … so WAH most likely used imperial system units.

So then ….. did Wand use the metric system instead of imperial system to engineer the Tricorder? And the appearance may be off due to rounding up or down in metric units?

Jus a what if….

 

[Simonized]

They're M4 screws.
Yep, same. I saw someone on the FB group spent a week trying to find the correct M4 dome head slotted screw and found some but the dome was much more exaggerated. aka TOO tall. But like I said, I didn't leave it like that. I was just curious if it was possible and it is. I've been on the lookout for suitable round head screws but I haven't been spending a lot of time on it. I just saw these round ones on the strap and my curiosity got the better of me.

BTW The one on the back is a captive screw so you don't lose it, hence only partially threaded.

These are the ones the guy on FB found. but yeah they're a bit too domed for my taste.
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Thanks for the info bud.
Yes I see what you mean, a little too domed.

 

[Technoboots]

Thanks for the info bud.
Yes I see what you mean, a little too domed.

It depends on which Tricorder you look at. At least one of the Fibreglass ones had more domed screws and the scan TWC did shows them as domed as well. I gave the screws a filing to remove the lip and they look better. The last pic is of mine.
The problem is the original screws would have been made in the 60s and are Imperial. Metric ones now don't tend to have dome heads.
I have plenty spare so can spend time trying to reshape them better. Not in any rush though.

 

[smithjohnj]

For the imperial metric debate :

In 1999 the NASA Mars Climate Orbiter crashed into Mars due to a problem with the software controlling the orbiter’s thrusters. The software incorrectly calculated thruster force in pounds of force where as a second program read this data assuming it was in the metric unit—“newtons per square meter” which it was indeed suppose to be. Not sure if this issue falls under “Its not rocket science”, or “Climate Change”?

 

[smithjohnj]

As a replacement screw, you might look at a M4 Pan Head screw. It is flat on the top but has a rounded edge.

 

[asalaw]

They're M4 screws.
Yep, same. I saw someone on the FB group spent a week trying to find the correct M4 dome head slotted screw and found some but the dome was much more exaggerated. aka TOO tall. But like I said, I didn't leave it like that. I was just curious if it was possible and it is. I've been on the lookout for suitable round head screws but I haven't been spending a lot of time on it. I just saw these round ones on the strap and my curiosity got the better of me.

BTW The one on the back is a captive screw so you don't lose it, hence only partially threaded.

These are the ones the guy on FB found. but yeah they're a bit too domed for my taste.
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I'm wondering if the correct profile isn't an oval head screw, instead of round? Been a decade since I was up on different screw types, so I might be just having a fuzzy memory.

 

[FANATICO]

I agree….the different types of screws used with different Tricorder’s.

Here’s additional pics from the Greg Jein collection. Unfortunately the actual round head screw for just behind the strap is not shown in any of the pics….but it gives an idea of what was used…assuming the screws pictured were originally used.

Also….I believe the correct nomenclature is slotted “round head” screws…..not so much “dome” screws.

 

[Ronldheld]

I should have thought of this months ago. All of our Amazon problems are due to global manager Sluggo(he's gonna be mean!!!)

 

[Technoboots]

I agree….the different types of screws used with different Tricorder’s.

Here’s additional pics from the Greg Jein collection. Unfortunately the actual round head screw for just behind the strap is not shown in any of the pics….but it gives an idea of what was used…assuming the screws pictured were originally used.

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Pretty sure they basically just used whatever they had available so there is probably no definitive screw to use. I like the rounded screw as to me it looks vintage and is closed enough to what I see in the pictures.. The original TWC ones are way too flat.
This one sold as an original has cross head screws.

https://propstoreauction.com/lot-details/index/catalog/397/lot/138322

 

[FANATICO]

Pretty sure they basically just used whatever they had available so there is probably no definitive screw to use. I like the rounded screw as to me it looks vintage and is closed enough to what I see in the pictures.. The original TWC ones are way too flat.
This one sold as an original has cross head screws.

https://propstoreauction.com/lot-details/index/catalog/397/lot/138322

Yeah…..round heads are nice….those in the auction are of the Philips type

Although….I think they might have favored brass material …back in the day.

 

[Technoboots]

Yeah…..round heads are nice….those in the auction are of the Philips type

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Although….I think they might have favored brass material …back in the day.

They don't look as good as the slotted to me. To me Philips head is industrial and are quick to use while slotted feels more artistic as it takes more care to use them without slipping. Not sure if it's just the picture but they don't look as domed as the slotted ones on the scanned Tricorder to me either.

 

[smithjohnj]

The round screw head is the domed-one some members believe sits too high. That is why I suggested the Pan Head, it has a lower profile- but is not completely round but has a flat top (to aid in a non-slip drive ability). There is a third head which I rejected which is the Truss Head. It has a lower round head but it is also has a wider profile so I do not believe it fits in this case. Just to be complete you would want a "M4 slotted ANSI Pan head screw". Many pan heads use a Phillips (X) driver, and a JIS (Japanese Industrial Standard) Pan Head has a smaller head.

 

[FANATICO]

They don't look as good as the slotted to me. To me Philips head is industrial and are quick to use while slotted feels more artistic as it takes more care to use them without slipping. Not sure if it's just the picture but they don't look as domed as the slotted ones on the scanned Tricorder to me either.

I don’t know why….TWC went to the screw they chose, but I like the original round heads. So I’ll probably change TWC’s out.

It’s funny cause when they scanned….it was a slotted round head (dome)

 

[xlowes]

It's total garbage. Didn't come with a Tootsie Pop.

Mine came with a Snickers .