The Mandalorian (TV series)

Ok first I have to say that compared to the videogame Darktroopers, these suck visually. I thought maybe it would get better if those were Phase I or II, but then they say they are three and aren't suits. I also don't think a droid could batter a blast door down when a lightsaber even takes a while to cut through. Not to mention they were supposed to be built with metal that was lightsaber resistant, so they shouldn't have been able to be defeated that easily, but Disney...

It doesn't make a lot of sense for Luke to show up when he won't even show up to help ANYONE in the Sequel movies, even his family, until it's too late. We're supposed to go "Wow Luke's so cool!!!" and then you remember the Sequels and how he doesn't fulfill his purpose and Grogu is now probably going to get killed by Space Emo Kylo Ren. Not to mention we don't know why Luke showed up unless what they did with Grogu on that Jedi planet allowed Luke to follow him. Anyway it seems like someone trying to do Luke Skywalker damage control.
Taking out your spoiler tags because, this many pages in since the season finale, people still reading aren't afraid of spoilers.

I think these Dark Troopers capture the essence, but weren't given enough screen time to establish menace. I also remembered the lightsaber resistance. A more fitting narrative might've been if Our Heroes whittled them one-by-one, distracting with the darksaber while Din got in with the beskar spear and rearranged their inner workings a bit. They're down to the last few and their elbow room is gone. That's when Luke and/or his Rogues show up to help turn the tide, rather than steal 99% of the show. Our Heroes have more agency, maybe even give Bo a moment of telling Gideon where to stick it, as besting his droids in battle counts perfectly well for winning the darksaber. Like... Maybe if this episode had ended with that moment when they're backed into cover and wondering how long before it gives out. *whoosh* A hard-to-make-out-it-went-so-fast ship catches their attention out the viewport. They share a glance... To be continued.

As for the other matter. It makes sense for Luke to show up because he is still a couple decades away from his big pre-TFA self-perceived failure. That's also two decades for Grogu to get trained up and leave -- or have it cut short due to pressing matters, and Din comes to fetch him. That's been my biggest grumble since sometime around 1983, as I started to become more aware, as a human (I was still only in elementary school) -- it seemed weird and a little stupid to start the story in the middle. But then there were no more movies, which confused me as well, because George said there were supposed to be twelve or nine, and this was only three. Then, when he sold Lucasfilm to Disney and they decided to skip over a full generation of character growth and galactic events to get to the next numbered episode, that confusion solidified into solid grumpitude. Rather than start at Episode I, and then tell the story in as many episodes as it needs to unfold fully, and in order, we have...

Episodes IV, V, and VI
Episodes I and II, beginning 32 years earlier
Clone Wars microseries between II and III
Episode III
Clone Wars ongoing series, set between II and III
Rebels, set several years prior to IV
Episode VII, twenty-five years after VI
Rogue One, between Rebels and IV
Episode VIII, back to the future
Solo, back between III and Rebels
Resistance, prior to VII and running through VIII
Episode IX
Mandalorian, just after VI...

It's just all over the place. Just as it's narratively a bad idea to go into the Prequels already knowing Anakin's and Obi-Wan's fate, now we're in this show knowing the fate of the New Republic, Luke, etc. Best we can do is try not to think about it. This show won't run all the way up to the Sequel era, and we have no idea the state of Mandalore in that time. A lot can happen between now and then. We just have to pretend we don't know what's going to happen to the larger galaxy, same as when we had to try to not think about how Episode III had to end.
 
Since they just had to bring him back, they really wasted Boba not sticking around for Luke pulling up. We could have had this:

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Or this:

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So, to be fair, lol, if he was being interviewed in the last few weeks, he already had the show. lol

And he was just white knuckling it through those interviews like "Lord baby *****, don't let me slip up and say anythin that will make the mouse cancel ma show. Want that Disney Mando money."

I think he was talking about in the years following AOTC and other tv show or videogame work I believe.


Can we also talk about how Lucasfilm is putting Luke in the same damn outfit he wears in EVERYTHING post ROTJ? The book covers, videogames, etc. have been doing that for years like the man doesn't own any other outfit! I know people, even myself, have clothing we feel more comfortable in, but for the love of god at least let him mix it up a little with different shades of gray or maybe navy blue or something if he has to wear dark colors! :lol:
 
I think he was talking about in the years following AOTC and other tv show or videogame work I believe.


Can we also talk about how Lucasfilm is putting Luke in the same damn outfit he wears in EVERYTHING post ROTJ? The book covers, videogames, etc. have been doing that for years like the man doesn't own any other outfit! I know people, even myself, have clothing we feel more comfortable in, but for the love of god at least let him mix it up a little with different shades of gray or maybe navy blue or something if he has to wear dark colors! :lol:
Ummm....
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I think he was talking about in the years following AOTC and other tv show or videogame work I believe.


Can we also talk about how Lucasfilm is putting Luke in the same damn outfit he wears in EVERYTHING post ROTJ? The book covers, videogames, etc. have been doing that for years like the man doesn't own any other outfit! I know people, even myself, have clothing we feel more comfortable in, but for the love of god at least let him mix it up a little with different shades of gray or maybe navy blue or something if he has to wear dark colors! :lol:
Regardless of anyone’s feelings about the film, Luke’s costume at the end of TLJ was great…woulda been made better with the right lightsaber and if the trilogy as a whole hadn’t gone nowhere, but…just enough reference to his ROTJ outfit and just enough of a Jedi look without just being “generic Jedi outfit” or “the same clothes he’d been wearing for thirty years” like Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.
 
Have to say i loved it. I don't care what anyone says, i Loved Luke! To me that was Favreau saying 'THIS is Luke, you @#$%#*es' - not that bastardization shown in E8. I was hoping for Kyle, but i flipped when I saw the xwing. I don't think anyone has to worry about Luke dominating squat. The effect was pretty damn good for TV. As noted, this isn't 250M budget movie, it was maybe a 5-10M budget episode and they had a fraction of the time to do it as a full feature. Cost combined with outcome means you might get one more appearance if/when Grogu leaves the school, but that's about it. You're more likely to get a 'Master Skywalker asked me to bring him back to you...' from some unknown student.

As for Grogu going with him. I'm surprised how many people think it means 1.) he's gone for good, and 2.) he dies when the temple is destroyed. I mean, come on, it doesn't happen for what? 10-12 years in the timeline? Who says Grogu stays the whole time. Luke says he's a danger until he learns to control his powers. Maybe he gets a handle on it and leaves. Maybe Din's called to the training ground for something and Grogu says 'i'm out'. Lots can happen. As for the knob...i think we'll see that go back to him next season. He'll be sitting around someone where looking at the knob and it'll get yanked out of his hand. Plus, as noted, I'd wager Grogu counts for about 75% of the show's licensing/sales as well. You don't write out the golden goose.

I like the cross over with the Tie's being released and the BSG launch tube look. Surprised no one mentioned that that launch sequence seemed to come largely from the Tie-Fighter game - at least as I recall (been a while).

Thank you Jon Favreau. If that's the last we ever see of Luke, I can rest much easier knowing he went out the total badass we knew he was.
 
I know this is a controversial opinion here, but this Luke didn't "fix" TLJ Luke because he didn't need fixing. They are the same person at two different points in a journey. I personally saw traits in how Mando-Luke fought that elude to me exactly why he loses his way. Filoni and Favreau may be tapping into a side of Star Wars we haven't seen in a while, but they're not retconning the sequels away or swinging in as the saviors of Star Wars. Their work has some spotty moments in this show but people are so willing to let them off the hook because at a basal level they're just showing fans all the things they want, even if the execution is shaky.

They made the point in the making of that they approached this like they were playing with toys, and that's exactly what a lot of it comes across as. The characters are very stilted and dull at times, very rarely does any meaningful dialogue happen beyond just dumping exposition. I realize though I should probably just leave the thread until next season.
 
Not one said it undoes TLJ. In fact, a number of people were using the thinking it does not to portend Grogu's fate.

The thing is, as i said, if this is Luke's final bow, it's a killer one. And the last one leaves the lasting impression.

I know they're not going to do a the world between worlds bit to undo the ST, but it'd be completely fine with me if they did.
 
Have to say i loved it. I don't care what anyone says, i Loved Luke! To me that was Favreau saying 'THIS is Luke, you @#$%#*es' - not that bastardization shown in E8. I was hoping for Kyle, but i flipped when I saw the xwing. I don't think anyone has to worry about Luke dominating squat. The effect was pretty damn good for TV. As noted, this isn't 250M budget movie, it was maybe a 5-10M budget episode and they had a fraction of the time to do it as a full feature. Cost combined with outcome means you might get one more appearance if/when Grogu leaves the school, but that's about it. You're more likely to get a 'Master Skywalker asked me to bring him back to you...' from some unknown student.

As for Grogu going with him. I'm surprised how many people think it means 1.) he's gone for good, and 2.) he dies when the temple is destroyed. I mean, come on, it doesn't happen for what? 10-12 years in the timeline? Who says Grogu stays the whole time. Luke says he's a danger until he learns to control his powers. Maybe he gets a handle on it and leaves. Maybe Din's called to the training ground for something and Grogu says 'i'm out'. Lots can happen. As for the knob...i think we'll see that go back to him next season. He'll be sitting around someone where looking at the knob and it'll get yanked out of his hand. Plus, as noted, I'd wager Grogu counts for about 75% of the show's licensing/sales as well. You don't write out the golden goose.

I like the cross over with the Tie's being released and the BSG launch tube look. Surprised no one mentioned that that launch sequence seemed to come largely from the Tie-Fighter game - at least as I recall (been a while).

Thank you Jon Favreau. If that's the last we ever see of Luke, I can rest much easier knowing he went out the total badass we knew he was.
So the only thing that matters to you is that Luke is a badass???

If so. All I can say is..... Wow. You've totally missed the point of, like, all of Star Wars....... You are basically Luke of ESB, looking for a "great warrior."
"Mmm. Wars not make one great."

"Excitement. Ha! Adventure. Ha! A Jedi craves not these things."
 
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