The Amazing Spider-Man 2 (Post-release)

[jmgrice]

I don't care what the reviewers are saying about it, I really enjoyed it and am looking forward to seeing it again.

Me too. I hardly agree with reviewers anyway. I like to read them. But I never use their opinions as a basis for mine.

J

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[Wezzulus]

I don't care what the reviewers are saying about it, I really enjoyed it and am looking forward to seeing it again.

This. What's the point of bringing in a review and use it as proof that the movie was bad? Reviews are still opinions, not facts. Silly haters.

Loved the movie, seen it twice. But I do feel that for a movie it tried to do a bit too much. But this could be because I rather see Spider-man as a series. Like Arrow or Game of Thrones, with it's movie budget, rather than a movie every 2 to 3 years. I think if this story line was done in a series it would have worked better. Still I enjoyed it and think it's the best comic Spidey on the white screen so far.

 

[.:MirrorminD:.]

I don't think I've seen in majority of movies a company as bad as Oscorp so ignorant of standard safety violations. I mean where's OSHA during all this.

 

[crabra comander]

I hope all the Sinister Six villains have their own DUB-STEP instrumentals in the sequel, and have a guitar solo/lead singer to inner monologue for them in the new film...:cool

 

[seelsa73]

I am surprised they actually went through with it and killed Gwen... but, did they really need to tell us they were going to kill her off within the first ten minutes? Okay, they didn't actually come out and say it... but, it was obvious that it was going to happen right from her speech and from the Denis Leary's ghostly appearances. Maybe it was supposed to be clever foreshadowing... but instead it became GLARING PLOT POINT - LOOK! LOOK! SHE'S GOING TO DIE. She was well played by Emma Stone and I for one, would definitely overlook it if they decided to dye her hair red and make her MJ.

That's IF you know the story from the comics. Audience members who don't read the comics but come to see the sequel just because they saw the original and liked it probably had no idea that Gwen was destined to die at some point. If I hadn't heard the guys at AMC Movie Talk talking about the Gwen storyline from the comics and how she died in it, I wouldn't have known about it and would have been surprised that it happened when I saw the movie. It really is just clever foreshadowing for those people who came into the movie without any foreknowledge of the event; the only reason it was so glaringly obvious to you is because you knew about it going in.

 

[JD]

That's IF you know the story from the comics. Audience members who don't read the comics but come to see the sequel just because they saw the original and liked it probably had no idea that Gwen was destined to die at some point. If I hadn't heard the guys at AMC Movie Talk talking about the Gwen storyline from the comics and how she died in it, I wouldn't have known about it and would have been surprised that it happened when I saw the movie. It really is just clever foreshadowing for those people who came into the movie without any foreknowledge of the event; the only reason it was so glaringly obvious to you is because you knew about it going in.

Actually.... no. The foreshadowing was quite obvious and even the gal I took with me - who knows nothing of the story - saw it coming. It wasn't just obvious, it was painfully obvious and just bad storytelling.

 

[Aron Wohlfart]

Actually.... no. The foreshadowing was quite obvious and even the gal I took with me - who knows nothing of the story - saw it coming. It wasn't just obvious, it was painfully obvious and just bad storytelling.

The whole audience in the cinema i was didnt see it coming. And i saw it 2 times.
I still remember the sounds of the girls in the room when the blood came out of her nose.


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[JD]

The whole audience in the cinema i was didnt see it coming. And i saw it 2 times.
I still remember the sounds of the girls in the room when the blood came out of her nose.

I wish I had time to poll an entire audience.

 

[Aron Wohlfart]

I wish I had time to poll an entire audience.

Ehm. U hear the ppl in the room like "oh noo" or "ohhh". And u hear ppl talk after the movie when u walk out ^^


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[Onephattsi2]

What really bugs me is that if you like a movie, most times you comment on it once and kinda move on..... But the guys that hated it. Always seem to try to convince the people that did like it, that they should have hated it too.....

I liked it... I knew gwen was going to die, even basically when she was going to die. But I never mentioned it to my GF when we went. And she was genuinely surprised and saddened by it. Saddened by it so much that it changed her entire view of the movie, so to say that "everyone saw it coming" by the speech at the beginning is ridiculous........

I do not listen to any movie reviewers or critics, I base my opinion on what I like, and what I enjoy... Trying to throw a bunch of "experts" opinions around making a case as to why the movie was bad, is counterproductive. Their opinions mean no more to me than anyone else's opinions when it comes to forming my own thoughts.

 

[JD]

Ehm. U hear the ppl in the room like "oh noo" or "ohhh". And u hear ppl talk after the movie when u walk out ^^


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But, thats not what you said. You said the entire audience didn't see it coming.

 

[Aron Wohlfart]

But, thats not what you said. You said the entire audience didn't see it coming.

And u said u and one other person said it ^^

I guess u know what i mean. U dont have to try it on that way to make ur 2 person statement get more weight ^^


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[JD]

And u said u and one other person said it ^^

I guess u know what i mean. U dont have to try it on that way to make ur 2 person statement get more weight ^^


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No, I think I was quite clear - at no time did I try to mislead you or anyone. My statements - unless noted, are clearly from my perspective. I never said that an entire audience felt a certain way.

I understand you liked this movie - that's fine, I'm quite sure some folks liked Batman & Robin, too (and the similarities go well beyond a blue dude - it's also clear that I'm not the only one who felt that way). But, it seems that you're trying to debate my personal opinion - and that of movie critics - again, if you disagree, that's fine - but, there's really no need to speak for an entire audience, which you very clearly did.

I'm not posting in this thread because I have any inclination to change anyone here's mind (I keep notifications that I've been quoted). It's kinda funny to read the blatant dismissal of anyone who didn't like it - especially those that have strong, well stated reasons. It's better to understand when you back up your opinion with strong discussion and reasonings - what I mostly get here is more like "critics suck, your opinion sucks and go away if you don't like it" (obvious generalization).

I've been a Spidey fan a very long time, I have a vested interest in the character and I'm disappointed in this movie. I don't think it's an improvement on the Raimi films because, mostly, the villains were done very poorly.

 

[Aron Wohlfart]

No, I think I was quite clear - at no time did I try to mislead you or anyone. My statements - unless noted, are clearly from my perspective. I never said that an entire audience felt a certain way.

I understand you liked this movie - that's fine, I'm quite sure some folks liked Batman & Robin, too (and the similarities go well beyond a blue dude - it's also clear that I'm not the only one who felt that way). But, it seems that you're trying to debate my personal opinion - and that of movie critics - again, if you disagree, that's fine - but, there's really no need to speak for an entire audience, which you very clearly did.

I'm not posting in this thread because I have any inclination to change anyone here's mind (I keep notifications that I've been quoted). It's kinda funny to read the blatant dismissal of anyone who didn't like it - especially those that have strong, well stated reasons. It's better to understand when you back up your opinion with strong discussion and reasonings - what I mostly get here is more like "critics suck, your opinion sucks and go away if you don't like it" (obvious generalization).

I've been a Spidey fan a very long time, I have a vested interest in the character and I'm disappointed in this movie. I don't think it's an improvement on the Raimi films because, mostly, the villains were done very poorly.

Im sorry if it seemed like i wanna debate an opinion everybody has one and thats good.
And critics are a good thing. As long as they r constructive (as a musician and comic author i have to like critics ^^ ) only critics can help to improve.

To me it just seemed like some ppl just want to dizz the movie cause itd not what they expected and not cause of the quality of it.

Taste is taste and i didnt like the raimi movies cause i think that no character in it has any depth.

I agree that in tasm2 they could have used more time to "introduce" the villains. But then the movie would have been 3.5 hourd which would be ok for me actually.




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[jmgrice]

No, I think I was quite clear - at no time did I try to mislead you or anyone. My statements - unless noted, are clearly from my perspective. I never said that an entire audience felt a certain way.

I understand you liked this movie - that's fine, I'm quite sure some folks liked Batman & Robin, too (and the similarities go well beyond a blue dude - it's also clear that I'm not the only one who felt that way). But, it seems that you're trying to debate my personal opinion - and that of movie critics - again, if you disagree, that's fine - but, there's really no need to speak for an entire audience, which you very clearly did.

I'm not posting in this thread because I have any inclination to change anyone here's mind (I keep notifications that I've been quoted). It's kinda funny to read the blatant dismissal of anyone who didn't like it - especially those that have strong, well stated reasons. It's better to understand when you back up your opinion with strong discussion and reasonings - what I mostly get here is more like "critics suck, your opinion sucks and go away if you don't like it" (obvious generalization).

I've been a Spidey fan a very long time, I have a vested interest in the character and I'm disappointed in this movie. I don't think it's an improvement on the Raimi films because, mostly, the villains were done very poorly.

It was clear what he was saying. We all got it. You were just being picky to win the debate. It most definitely was not clear. Maybe that they were going to hurt her which happens in most movies. But not that she'd die. How often does that even happen in comic movies to someone so major. I knew it from the comics. And the 8 people I went with had no idea. 1 had read the comics but thought they would change it when he tried to save her. I too got the impression that the vast majority didnt expect it. You could even see the adults saying to their kids 'ahh shes not dead'. Even I thought they would change it for the kids.

J

Why do you even go to the movies? You hate lile 99 percent of them.....


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[JD]

Why do you even go to the movies? You hate lile 99 percent of them.....


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Sigh, here we go again with gross exaggeration and pretty much lying - and attacking someone because you don't agree with their opinion. I just went back through ten pages of my post - and outside of Divergent Batman, Man of Steel, and this Spider-Man, gave several good reviews (or spoke highly of) of movies - including Winter Soldier, Oculus, Carrie, Robocop, mall rats, Let Me In, Star Wars, Scott Pilgrim - even the How I Met Your Mother finale and a Breaking Bad.

Classy.

 

[Aron Wohlfart]

Lets just stop here and make a group hug
They will never make a spiderman movie to make everyone happy.
And we know after tasm3 andrew and marc webb stop and a new director and actor come.
Maybe then i wont like it and other ppl will love it.
But thats life


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[jmgrice]

Sigh, here we go again with gross exaggeration and pretty much lying - and attacking someone because you don't agree with their opinion. I just went back through ten pages of my post - and outside of Divergent Batman, Man of Steel, and this Spider-Man, gave several good reviews (or spoke highly of) of movies - including Winter Soldier, Oculus, Carrie, Robocop, mall rats, Let Me In, Star Wars, Scott Pilgrim - even the How I Met Your Mother finale and a Breaking Bad.

Classy.

Here we go again. My whole post and you took out the one joke which was obviously exaggeration. Pretty clear that wasnt the main objective of my post....
It wasnt an attack. Nor was it a lie. It was a JOKE! but to make things clear. I didnt find 100 of your reviews. Of which 99 were hateful. Just in case my sarcasm wasnt clear.
J

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[JD]

Here we go again. My whole post and you took out the one joke which was obviously exaggeration. Pretty clear that wasnt the main objective of my post....
It wasnt an attack. Nor was it a lie. It was a JOKE! but to make things clear. I didnt find 100 of your reviews. Of which 99 were hateful. Just in case my sarcasm wasnt clear.
J

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That's because it didn't come off as sarcasm or as a joke - it came off as personal attack, which I still think it was intended to be.

I've already said my two cents about what the rest of your post detailed. I didn't feel a need to debate it further (plus, typing on the iPad at work isn't exactly the easiest thing) - I did think you trying to detract from my argument by your little personal attack was worth defending.

But, since you asked: I can only base this on my personal experience; maybe you're a bit more naive when it comes to movies. The foreshadowing of Gwen's death seemed amateurish and I think the poor reviews prove that. If that's the whole point of my review you'd like to harp on - that's cool. But, there were good thing's about the movie that I posted about that just seem to be ignored because it's easier to dismiss my opinion when you focus on the bad aspects of it.

 

[crabra comander]

BTW...They stated that Oscorp shutdown any projects Curt Connors had been working on. Not all animal hybrid projects. So electric eels in the power room where still good to go. Also, I really like how Electro and Harry toyed with the Oscorp exec by resuscitating him.

Also, I have a feeling Norman Osborn isn't dead, hopefully meaning we get a full on goblin. Harry is Hobgoblin if that's the case.