how come GL use Midichlorians to explain the force in the Prequels? isn't that moving away from the spiritual to the material?
Star Wars The Acolyte (tv series)
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WoRsTy
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This is they way I interpreted that part of the story. Easy version as follows. Imagine that Midichlorians are like iron filings, done that? Good. Now these Midichlorians are attracted to force based users or environment's. They however have no bearing on how the force works, good, bad, or neutral, they just like being close to it. So a good way to measure how much something is strong with the force is to measure how many of these Midichlorians are present. It's a bit like measuring how many cost cutting plump people have gathered around a hotdog stand which is having a all day sale on. Different hot dog stands with varying prices will have all have different amounts of plumpness around them. The rule being that the cheapest one will have the most plumpness. The quality of the varied ingredient's of the hotdogs does not equate to this as the low cost beats all So just to clarify, hot dogs good, witches bad.
Joek3rr
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Eh, more nuance than that.
Remember the Force has two aspects. The living Force. The energy created by life, that which the Jedi taps into for power. When we look at the first film, how the Jedi's powers are described could almost be pseudoscientific. Like it just extreme mental discipline not unlike the Bene Gesserit from Dune. It's not that magical and mystical. Episode V really moves it in that direction.
Episode I just kinda brings back the pseudoscientific nature of the Force. (Since Star Wars kinda rides the line between sci-fi and fantasy.)
But then there's this whole cosmic Force. This is the part that controls people actions. What guides the universe and where "destiny" comes from. What magically creates Anakin. It is...for a lack of a better term..."god."
That's what George is getting at, when he says he wanted to awaken a certain spiritually.
CadetTK2386
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I would venture to say that "The Force is bad," is the Villain's philosophy since some of the leaks suggest:
Also, "the Force is Bad" was the whole motivation behind Darth Traya in KOTOR II. Her whole thing, and the whole plot of the game at the end, was that she wanted to "Kill" the Force, because the Force having a Will, the force controlling your actions, meant that the Jedi didn't and they were just puppets or slaves to the Force with no Free Will of their own and that the Force must be destroyed so that people could have freedom and not be subjected to its whims and wills.
That game is held up as a near sacrosanct, universally beloved piece of Star Wars lore. However, when a character or characters who appear to be the antagonists express a similar, if actually less radical interpretation, in a piece of new media, it's suddenly the death kneel of the Franchise and disrespect to George's vision. So, much like the revisionist history that "George Lucas would never had wanted Witches in Star Wars" when he put them in the Ewok Movies and then he and his Daughter specifically put them in the Clone Wars, I think some people really need to check their biases and make sure that an idea or plot device is really something that they don't like or think doesn't fit or is bad for the story, or if they are just grasping at straws to justify their own opinions that Everything Disney is Bad.
One of the key elements of this show is two Sisters, one of whom is selected for Training by the Jedi, and the other isn't, leaving the one behind. The rumors do then get kind of fuzzy that either the sister who was left behind begins feeling abandoned and embittered towards the Jedi and The Force and comes into her own Force sensitivity after an accident strikes their village and kills a lot of people, or that the sister who was taken becomes disillusioned after something bad happens to her sister/village and the Jedi would not go to help or let her go to help and she turns to the Dark Side. Either way you will have a character who feels abandoned by the Jedi and the Force, and would fall in with other characters who also feel negatively towards the Jedi and the Force and express the negative opinions of the Jedi and the Force voiced in the trailer.
Also, "the Force is Bad" was the whole motivation behind Darth Traya in KOTOR II. Her whole thing, and the whole plot of the game at the end, was that she wanted to "Kill" the Force, because the Force having a Will, the force controlling your actions, meant that the Jedi didn't and they were just puppets or slaves to the Force with no Free Will of their own and that the Force must be destroyed so that people could have freedom and not be subjected to its whims and wills.
That game is held up as a near sacrosanct, universally beloved piece of Star Wars lore. However, when a character or characters who appear to be the antagonists express a similar, if actually less radical interpretation, in a piece of new media, it's suddenly the death kneel of the Franchise and disrespect to George's vision. So, much like the revisionist history that "George Lucas would never had wanted Witches in Star Wars" when he put them in the Ewok Movies and then he and his Daughter specifically put them in the Clone Wars, I think some people really need to check their biases and make sure that an idea or plot device is really something that they don't like or think doesn't fit or is bad for the story, or if they are just grasping at straws to justify their own opinions that Everything Disney is Bad.
Joek3rr
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In the trailer it seems the line of dialogue about the Force is spoken by the character Mother Aniseya. Who is described in the Databank
as a leader of a coven of witches.
If this makes people happy then I'm honestly happy.
I already had an idea of how this would turn out, after seeing a couple of Leslye Headland interviews.
But hearing "If you want to pull the thread...and change everything...then pull it" is a clear indicator that this show is not for me.
I already had an idea of how this would turn out, after seeing a couple of Leslye Headland interviews.
But hearing "If you want to pull the thread...and change everything...then pull it" is a clear indicator that this show is not for me.
ScourgiousJinx
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Yikes on the new trailer. I keep watching this stuff because I watch with friends who will view it regardless of what I do(or how bad it is) and it's just another excuse to get together with awesome people. But man, If I was just me, I'd be doing something else with my time.
The Darksider with the red saber in the trailer looks like a Knight of Ren. If thats the case it's going to be very difficult to sit through this
Reading comments from various members—whose tastes and opinions I highly respect—saying that they are excited to see something new from Star Wars in the Acolyte…
I turn on the trailer and see:
I turn on the trailer and see:
- Jedi…
- Robes…
- Laser Swords…
- Light vs. Darkness…
- Apprentice who has “turned”…
- At last we will have our revenge…
- Sweeping statements about “the past”…
- Sith characters wearing buckethead helmets…
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I just want to see something not directly tied to the Skywalkers. But I'm sure somehow palpatine will return!Reading comments from members of this board, whose taste I highly respect, saying that they are excited to see “something new” from Star Wars…
I turn on the trailer and see:
My reaction:
- Jedi…
- Laser Swords…
- Robes…
- Light vs. Darkness…
- At last we will have our revenge…
- Sith character’s wearing buckethead helmets…
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“Something…something…something…Dark Side…something…something…something…come-PLETE!!”
"What's that make us?"
cboath
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Absolutely nothing!
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