Star Trek (2009 J.J. Abrams movie) Phaser Defined Thread!

I The Next Generation doesn't hold up to repeated viewings; almost every episode feels forced and amateurish, like they're children playing Star Trek. Conversely, I can watch TOS endlessly and still be fascinated by it.

I confess I've never thought of it in quite those terms, but your comments sum up of my feelings on the subject quite nicely.

I realize how dated and in some ways silly TOS must seem to (certain) younger viewers, but whatever its 60's-era shortcomings the thing had soul, and that can be a slippery thing to replicate.
 
I confess I've never thought of it in quite those terms, but your comments sum up of my feelings on the subject quite nicely.

I realize how dated and in some ways silly TOS must seem to (certain) younger viewers, but whatever its 60's-era shortcomings the thing had soul, and that can be a slippery thing to replicate.

You just summed it up for me. TOS had soul and so far, I don't see that with the new movie. I hope to be proven wrong, but we will have to wait and see.
 
Are these the only photos available of the phaser so far? I am contemplating a scratchbuild so would welcome any others? :thumbsup
 
You just summed it up for me. TOS had soul and so far, I don't see that with the new movie. I hope to be proven wrong, but we will have to wait and see.

Come on, guys...99.99% of us have seen a total of 2 1/2 minutes of film, and a few, very few, prop and set shots. As was very wisely said in the above quote, let's wait and see.
 
And keep in mind, the "soul" of Star Trek original series was developed OVER TIME -- not with ONE espisode.

I agree that the first season or three of Next Generation is still hard to watch -- BUT once the characters found their center, there are a few NEXT GEN episodes that, in my opinion, are better than anything in original series. But they had seven or so seasons to develop their "soul," whereas the original series only had three.

At any rate, the new movie will hopefully offer a high-budget EPIC story that explores the original series character relationships BEFORE the five-year mission took place. This is something we have not seen before, and I am looking forward to it.

I am NOT expecting it to be 100% cannon...or is it canon? I am NOT expecting it to look exactly like the Trek I fell in love with. I am HOPEFUL that it will FEEL like the Trek I grew up with. But at the end of that day, it's simply another movie made mostly to entertain. It's a two-hour commitment of my time. if it stinks, it stinks. If it's good, it's good. But I don't see any reason to keep pooping all over it based on speculation of props and costumes and a 2 minute trailer. Geesh.
 
Yes, very well said. That's exactly how I feel about it. I just wish so many people wouldn't be so closed minded about it.
 
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Not bad. You know what? I MIGHT even buy one, to hold me over until I can get a PROPER prop replica of it (probably when Master Replicas makes their version, since that will undoubtedly be the only one Viacom will ALLOW us to buy! :rolleyes )
BWA HA HAHAHAHAHA!!!! :lol

That's fantastic! :lol
I'm sure the crew is glad it says 'TRICORDER' so helpfully on it.

I wonder how they get by without 'COMMUNICATOR' and 'PHASER' written on the other two? It'd be a shame to confuse one for the other; you might stun yourself when trying to call the ship.
LOL
"Captain Pike, sir."
"Yes, Mr Spock?"
"It has come to my attention that the bridge is not wheelchair accessible nor is it handicapped friendly."
"Whats your point, Spock? Its not like any of us are going to be whizzin around a starship confined to a wheelchair any time soon. Get some perspective, Spock!"
"Yes, Captain."
:lol

You guys are killing me!!! :lol
Let's hope that lightning strikes twice.

Case in point.

#1. Wrath of Kahn was the BEST Trek movie ever filmed.

#2. Wrath of Kahn had the WORST props ever used.

So, grab some popcorn and get ready for a great film!
I respectfully disagree. I've always been a fan of the phaser props from the first 2 Trek films. I like the ones from 3 and 4 better, sure. In fact, they're my favorite phaser design of all time. But I also have a special place in my heart for the WOK phasers, too. :cool
Okay, here’s a shot of the prop from Trek XI that someone posted, briefly, over on Hobbytalk (the link has since been removed).

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We’ve seen a lot of phaser designs over the years, and IMO this represents an improvement over many of them.
*Right click... save*

Not bad... and our FIRST picture of the actual prop... which is what this thread was originally supposed to be about! :cool:thumbsup

Am I imagining things, or is that a TOS-style thumb trigger on the side of the handle? :confused

That's one thing I clearly remember from TOS... Rodenberry's prop makers were always giving alien weapons the "dustbuster" shape and thumb-activated triggers that turned up again later on in TNG. So whoever designed this phaser was clearly at least somewhat familiar with earlier designs for phasers and disruptors.

Now, the bigger question is whether that thumb trigger fires the beam, or if it's for something else... perhaps the "transformation" from stun to kill? :confused
I KNEW it, they are all silver. Where are the blue/grey accents you speak of?
As someone else mentioned, maybe this isn't a "hero" prop.
Not all bad.

Where is the trigger?

Swinging barrel is still stupid.

Better be some time travel/alternate universe thing or it doesn't go between the Hand Laser and the Phaser 2. Otherwise, stupid beyond measure.
There have been hints from the producers that this movie does, indeed, set-up an alternative timeline. But that's not to say that it wipes out the original timeline. ;)
Hey now... wait a minute. That doesn't suck quite so much! :lol

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The prop has got a few subtler angles... it's not so tall and boxy, for one thing. Not bumper chrome, either. And no blue "stun" barrel.

HMMMMMMMMM. I may have to buy the Master Replicas one after all. :cry
Nice side-by-side comparison. Thanks for that. :)
Oh crap. :rolleyes

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ROTFLOL!!! :lol
Here's a painted version of the toy...
Looks better without the blue nozzle...and less of the red.

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Here's one with the Grey added to the body.

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I think I can work with that :)
I certainly like this one better than the Next Gen era dustbusters etc...which never looked like phasers to me.

To me a phaser is a raygun with a handle about midway to the body...toward the front.

Anything else is just a gun.
Very nice... Photoshopped, I take it?
 
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I don't know if this has been brought up or not, but, if you look at the red and blue part in the Playmates toy, It looks like they should be reversed to match the real prop. The shapes seem to match perfectly if reversed. What do you guys think?
 
No, I think it works the way it is. The toy is set to "stun". The red barrel is the ribbed one. It makes sense.

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I don't know if this has been brought up or not, but, if you look at the red and blue part in the Playmates toy, It looks like they should be reversed to match the real prop. The shapes seem to match perfectly if reversed. What do you guys think?
 
I don't know if this has been brought up or not, but, if you look at the red and blue part in the Playmates toy, It looks like they should be reversed to match the real prop. The shapes seem to match perfectly if reversed. What do you guys think?
I think you're not entirely realizing what your seeing. The Playmates toy is pictured set to "stun", while the prop is pictured set to "kill". Go back to the very first post of this thread, where I quoted an interview in Entertainment Weekly, in which the phasers were described thusly: sleek silver gizmos with spring-triggered barrels that revolve and glow in the transition from ''stun'' to ''kill.''

So, when someone switches the setting from "stun" to "kill", you'll see the barrels spin around, so that the appropriate barrel is on the weapon's "business end". ;)
 
Originally Posted by NakedMoleRat
Let's hope that lightning strikes twice.

Case in point.

#1. Wrath of Kahn was the BEST Trek movie ever filmed.

Respectfully, Wrath was the 2nd. worst star trek film ever made, and the model for the eventual failure of the the movie series. Essentially, it was compeletly derivative, visually absurd and basically was just so wrong in so many ways. Making star trek into 'fake star wars' or even 'mutiny on the bounty in space' required a level of mental retardation not seen again until
STAR TREK 5.

If you're a fan of wrath, I apologise for not liking this film because it happens to suck, and basically pissed all over everything star trek was about and established visually.

Just because I don't like it doesn't mean you can't like it.
 
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strange khans my second favourite trek film after first contact :)



Respectfully, Wrath was the 2nd. worst star trek film ever made, and the model for the eventual failure of the the movie series. Essentially, it was compeletly derivative, visually absurd and basically was just so wrong in so many ways. Making star trek into 'fake star wars' or even 'mutiny on the bounty in space' required a level of mental retardation not seen again until
STAR TREK 5.

If you're a fan of wrath, I apologise for not liking this film because it happens to suck, and basically pissed all over everything star trek was about and established visually.

Just because I don't like it doesn't mean you can't like it.
 
Appologize for what? You didn't like a movie I did? That's the great thing about choice. We can all make our own! For instance, in my opinion "Worst Contact" was the single dumbest film in the franchise. Now THAT movie took canon and threw it out the window. Cochran was an alcoholic egocentric and "Lilly" was the driving force behind the Phoenix?
Borg on 21st century earth????
Pshhhhhh!
Then again I hear some folks actually liked that film! :lol

Respectfully, Wrath was the 2nd. worst star trek film ever made, and the model for the eventual failure of the the movie series. Essentially, it was compeletly derivative, visually absurd and basically was just so wrong in so many ways. Making star trek into 'fake star wars' or even 'mutiny on the bounty in space' required a level of mental retardation not seen again until
STAR TREK 5.

If you're a fan of wrath, I apologise for not liking this film because it happens to suck, and basically pissed all over everything star trek was about and established visually.

Just because I don't like it doesn't mean you can't like it.
 
This is where the whole thing of stating opinion as fact comes to a head. There is a world of difference between saying, "Star Trek 17 SUCKED!" and saying "I think Star Trek 17 SUCKED!"

The first statement is stating an opinion as fact, and is insulting to those who may have liked the film.

The second is an expression of personal opinion only. Much more friendly.
 
This is where the whole thing of stating opinion as fact comes to a head. There is a world of difference between saying, "Star Trek 17 SUCKED!" and saying "I think Star Trek 17 SUCKED!"

The first statement is stating an opinion as fact, and is insulting to those who may have liked the film.

The second is an expression of personal opinion only. Much more friendly.


Damn man, that was well put!
 
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