Rebels Freddie Prinze Jr. Star Wars rant

[Ron]

The Cosmic Force became quieted, but it didn't disappear. And there's still the Living Force. If I had to guess, it has to with there being balance in the Force for a time. But the Cosmic Force awoke, which happens before Rey has her moment with the lightsaber.

Where did you get this from?

 

[Sluis Van Shipyards]

It's just a cheap way for them to explain Rey gaining her powers overnight. They didn't want to waste screen time on it. It's just lazy IMO. I don't care if you instantly have access to Anakin Skywalker level power, you have to be trained to fully use it.

 

[Ron]

That's what I mean. It just seems like another way to cover up bad writing.

But I'm genuinely curious. What's the difference between "cosmic" force and "living" force? And where is this explained? (Please don't tell me Wookipedia)

 

[jhazard]

And where is it stated any part of the force was dormant...

(I think Qui Gon was the first to muck it up with the "living force" in a comment to Obi Wan... But in not well versed in the EU, it may have been mentioned there prior to TPM, but I doubt it)

 

[Master Boda]

Where did you get this from?

The kool-aid man...Oh YEAH!!!!!

 

[Joek3rr]

That's what I mean. It just seems like another way to cover up bad writing.

But I'm genuinely curious. What's the difference between "cosmic" force and "living" force? And where is this explained? (Please don't tell me Wookipedia)

The Living Force is mentioned in TPM

Living Force

Do you know what binds all those lights together?""Don't have to be a Jedi to know the answer to that. The Force.""In a way. But I've come to see it differently, over time. Look again.""Us. The Force is all of us.Lor San Tekka and Poe Dameron The Living Force was the energy of all life. By...

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The Cosmic Force was first mentioned in TCW episode "Voices"

Cosmic Force

The Cosmic Force was the wellspring from which the Living Force, the energy of all life, sprang into all living things, and into which all life was feeding upon death, becoming one with it. Together, the Cosmic Force and the Living Force were the two parts making up the energy field created by...

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[Joek3rr]

And where is it stated any part of the force was dormant...

(I think Qui Gon was the first to muck it up with the "living force" in a comment to Obi Wan... But in not well versed in the EU, it may have been mentioned there prior to TPM, but I doubt it)

"There's been an awakening. Have you felt it?" - Snoke

And the film is literally called The Force Awakens If there is an awakening going then, then it stands to reason that Force must have been in some other state.

 

[jhazard]

"There's been an awakening. Have you felt it?" - Snoke

And the film is literally called The Force Awakens If there is an awakening going then, then it stands to reason that Force must have been in some other state.

Well, that's well and good. So what were Snoke, Kylo, and the Knights of Ren, and Luke (and his students - and probably Leia too) practicing?

And it couldn't just be the light side being dormant, as Kylo lamented to Vader's helmet - he felt the light pulling at him (again).

The force was there. They were all tapping in to it. To me - "The Awakening" was in reference to one person's experience, not the Force as a whole.

 

[Joek3rr]

Well, that's well and good. So what were Snoke, Kylo, and the Knights of Ren, and Luke (and his students - and probably Leia too) practicing?

And it couldn't just be the light side being dormant, as Kylo lamented to Vader's helmet - he felt the light pulling at him (again).

The force was there. They were all tapping in to it. To me - "The Awakening" was in reference to one person's experience, not the Force as a whole.

Yeah, the Force was there. And I thought it originally had to do with Rey. But Snoke mentions this awakening before get's her awakening when she touches the Skywalker saber. So I think there's something else going on.

 

[jhazard]

Yeah, the Force was there. And I thought it originally had to do with Rey. But Snoke mentions this awakening before get's her awakening when she touches the Skywalker saber. So I think there's something else going on.

You're right about the timing with the saber, but was she also not using the force (unwittingly) when piloting the Falcon? I thought it was inferred in her post escape conversation with Finn.

 

[Psab keel]

Sleepy Force. Yawn.

 

[Joek3rr]

You're right about the timing with the saber, but was she also not using the force (unwittingly) when piloting the Falcon? I thought it was inferred in her post escape conversation with Finn.

Yes she was. But considering that she says that she's always kinda "known" about the Force, I don't think that's the awakening. I think.

 

[cboath]

The force had to sort of awaken on it's own since the powers that be (LFL/JJ/RJ) decided that the only good force in galaxy was going to quit on everyone and go pout like a big baby.

 

[AJTaliesen]

This is the movie where we find out that R2D2 IS actually the chosen one and embodiment of the force and BB8 woke it up.

They only thought Anakin was because he was the only Jedi tested when R2 was nearby.

 

[Cephus]

This is the movie where we find out that R2D2 IS actually the chosen one and embodiment of the force and BB8 woke it up.

They only thought Anakin was because he was the only Jedi tested when R2 was nearby.

And R2D2 is a robo-sexual, a real person who just "identifies" as a robot. It'll go right along with all the rest of the crap in these terrible movies.

 

[Halliwax]

My understanding is that The Force went into a dormant phase until a $4 billion deal between Lucasfilm and Disney caused it to “awaken”.

Am I missing something here?

The best damn explanation yet!!

 

[Captain Dunsel]

The best damn explanation yet!!

Evidently, the Midi-Chlorians are cash-sensitive, as well as Force-sensitive.

 

[drcraig13]

The Lost Twenty were Jedi Masters who left throughout its history. Count Dooku was the last one. But this does not count people like Ventress, Anakin, Ahsoka, Barriss Offee, Pong Krell, or the unknown number of Jedi who became Inquisitors.

I think you should double check that. In "Rise of Lord Vader" Vader specifically mentions them and claims he was number 21. It is at the climax of the book when he is fighting the protagonist. I don't want to give away spoilers.

 

[Joek3rr]

I think you should double check that. In "Rise of Lord Vader" Vader specifically mentions them and claims he was number 21. It is at the climax of the book when he is fighting the protagonist. I don't want to give away spoilers.

That would be Legends now. Also Anakin wasn't a Jedi Master, so it's odd that he would claim to one those. Unless that's Anakin being bitter about not being promoted to master.

Lost Twenty

The Lost Twenty, also known as the The Lost, was a name given to the group of twenty Jedi Masters who left the Jedi Order throughout its history. According to Yula Braylon of the Jedi High Council, the Lost Twenty became disillusioned with the Jedi way of life. Among its ranks, Count Dooku was...

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[Bigdaddy]

That would be Legends now. Also Anakin wasn't a Jedi Master, so it's odd that he would claim to one those. Unless that's Anakin being bitter about not being promoted to master.

Lost Twenty

The Lost Twenty, also known as the The Lost, was a name given to the group of twenty Jedi Masters who left the Jedi Order throughout its history. According to Yula Braylon of the Jedi High Council, the Lost Twenty became disillusioned with the Jedi way of life. Among its ranks, Count Dooku was...

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It's always been a sore spot for him...