I know. "Air" refers to the pocket of air in the midsole...these DO NOT HAVE AIR in them!!!!!!
Nike MAG replicas (V2 and V3 only)
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I know. "Air" refers to the pocket of air in the midsole...these DO NOT HAVE AIR in them!!!!!!
So my question is, how do I fix them without ruining the shoe?
WizardBTTF
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You'll probably need to cut open the insole and the clear sole to fix them. I would start by checking the insole connections, careful when you cut into the sole though as you don't want to cut any wires. Judging by your video your EL panel itself is still good, just a connection going to it is bad. I would guess around the ribbon where there is a slot cut. Somewhere between the connector (which you will need to access by the insole) and the EL panel itself.
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Man, that kinda **** is way too techy for me, I don't know anything about stuff like that. I'd need a step by step video to do it. I wouldn't even know how to put it back together hahah. You guys are crazy cutting open these shoes! But seems like you know what you're doing where I have no idea.
cavx
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WizardBTTF did you have to cut these or is that were they broke?
I do find it odd that the connection tabs are at the base and the slot they feed through it quite high.
I do find it odd that the connection tabs are at the base and the slot they feed through it quite high.
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cavx
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We will see what this pair look like after I am done. I am doing these less "in your face" than I did my wear pair. I also sanded the letters on the back and the end result looks much more RD than the sharp, defined edges of my pair.
I hear ya. It is almost like people don't want to call them NIKE MAGs, so substituted "NIKE" with "AIR" instead. NIKE AIR has a bladder inside. These do not. The only reference to air bags is the design sketch where it says "glowing air bags" and that was more in reference to the lights these shoes would have.
For years NIKE had pressurised air bladders in their mid-soles. A recent design does not, yet it still has AIR as part of its name. It has the same honeycomb type of midsole that the V2 has. The V2 midsole was more about cutting down the weight of the shoe more than cushioning because the rubber they used is quite hard.
The best thing NIKE did in way of their AIR soles was done in the AIR PRESSURE where the air bag (if it even was a bladder) was a part of the sock liner, so it could be changed out. Once removed, there was a hollow section like a trench where it sat.
I made up soft shore silicone pads to sit inside the cavity where the battery used to live in my V2s. That provides excellent cushioning and support under the heel.
MrSouthpaw
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$600 is the price David set when he was the sole seller. And if the shoes aren't selling well as you said earlier. Then the price is obviously still a problem.
And I'm actually surprised the V2 hasn't dropped below $200 in response to the V3. I thought that was gonna happen weeks ago.
To quote myself from another thread:
The clear portions that light up with EL are supposed to be air bags in the fictional universe. Saying that we shouldn't call them "Air" Mags, as does Tinker Hatfield who created them, just because the real-world shoes don't actually contain air bags, would be like saying we also shouldn't call them "Mags" because they're not really magnetic. It makes no sense to have a problem with "air" and not have that same problem with "mags."
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cavx
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To quote myself from another thread:
The clear portions that light up with EL are supposed to be air bags in the fictional universe. Saying that we shouldn't call them "Air" Mags, as does Tinker Hatfield who created them, just because the real-world shoes don't actually contain air bags, would be like saying we also shouldn't call them "Mags" because they're not really magnetic. It makes no sense to have a problem with "air" and not have that same problem with "mags."
Fair enough.
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Yes it is. Why would you need a 2nd box anyway?
FreddyTV
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To quote myself from another thread:
The clear portions that light up with EL are supposed to be air bags in the fictional universe. Saying that we shouldn't call them "Air" Mags, as does Tinker Hatfield who created them, just because the real-world shoes don't actually contain air bags, would be like saying we also shouldn't call them "Mags" because they're not really magnetic. It makes no sense to have a problem with "air" and not have that same problem with "mags."
Why did youu stop the quote at "living pair?" In the sentence that follows Tinker says "I meant Nike Mag" (I must have "air" on the brain)!
And just a couple of days ago in Casey Neistat's video Tiffany Beers tells Casey "They were called the Nike Mag - at one point they picked up "air" but then lost it."
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cavx
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What I am shocked about is that sites like DH Gate are trying to flog the V2 off as a V3. They use RD images and then once you click to place an order, you discover they are nothing nore than V2 that are way over priced.
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"Living pair" is a bit is stretch to describe the auto lace shoe. They sound like a "dying" cat.
Ummm...and why did you stop the quote there, because in the very NEXT sentence he goes on to say: "What is so special about the Nike Air Mag is its impact continues to resonate.."
I think his humorous "I must have air on the brain" comment was due to the fact that the shoe's name had often been shortened in pop culture reference to just the "Nike Mag." But then to call them the "Nike AIR Mags" again in the very next sentence doesn't sound like he was trying to disavow that HE still considers that to be the full name.
In the end, I guess my point is that there are much easier pickings to be the source of our pet peeves than something like this, for which a defense could easily be made that "air" should in fact be part of the full name.
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FreddyTV
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Fair enough. I remember reading the letter and finding it weird that he did refer to them as Nike Air Mag. I don't believe I've seen Tinker or anyone at Nike call them Air Mags on video tho - have you?
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cavx
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Interesting that the shoe itself does not have AIR anywhere on it. They even made a special version of the NIKE/SWOOSH logo that incorporated both the NIKE/SWOOSH and the word AIR. You will see this on some retro shoes where this new logo was embroidered onto the heel.
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No, but honestly I haven't watched any of the 2016 videos, as I was sure (and was right) that the 2016 shoe would never be made available to a mere mortal as I am, and it would just make me madder at Nike.
It makes sense for Nike not to feature or stress the word "air" when discussing the shoes they are making in the real world, since they don't actually have air bags. An interviewer of Tiffany Beers, Tinker's assistant on the project (who actually did most of the leg work) said "but these don't actually have air in them, right...? Because that's old tech now..." And she just said "Right" or something like that. No real explanation, but it was an acknowledgement that the fictional shoes were designed to appear as if they had "glowing air bags" as mentioned in Tinker's design sketch. In the movie, they were indeed meant to be a futuristic extension of the Air line.
But again, I understand why Nike omits the word when discussing their practical real-world shoes. That, however, shouldn't prevent folks from referring to the shoes using their full name in the fictional universe. I mean I still call my real-world Mattel board a "hoverboard," and I'd be danged if that sucker can actually float. :lol
WizardBTTF
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cavx I just ripped it out since I am replacing it. That is my "test pair" I am trying different things as far as electronics go. I think I might even convert the bottom panels on mine to LED. This would be so I could actually wear them without them breaking....and they would be brighter. Experimenting with casting clear domes in the same shapes as the 2 EL domes which will have LEDS cast inside of them. I would have to hollow out about "1 deep though to fit them so that the leds will evenly light up the domes. It will allow for a lot of things though, color changing ect. I love LEDS hate this EL stuff too fragile lol
To anyone interested in soles...they are coming a long, slowly. I will 100% sure have them available by the end of this month though. It takes almost 24 hours before they are cured enough to remove from the molds, and then they are heat cured as well. I also started doing some truly clear soles. Below icy sole, water clear, sole that hasn't been outside, then sole that was in the sunlight. Also the 2 soles on the right look about twice as yellow in the photo then they actually are, because they are on a white background.
To anyone interested in soles...they are coming a long, slowly. I will 100% sure have them available by the end of this month though. It takes almost 24 hours before they are cured enough to remove from the molds, and then they are heat cured as well. I also started doing some truly clear soles. Below icy sole, water clear, sole that hasn't been outside, then sole that was in the sunlight. Also the 2 soles on the right look about twice as yellow in the photo then they actually are, because they are on a white background.
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cavx
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I refer to my Matty Hover Board "a board" because it doesn't actually hover.
I like name MAG to refer to the syle of the shoe. A shoe with just two seems and a clean toe, not just lights. I'd like to think at some point, the style of the MAG will be as popular as a Derby. It will probably never happen due to the sizes of the part needed to make the shoe with only two seams. Cost prohibitive in leather, but with synthetics and micro-fibres, it could happen.
I like name MAG to refer to the syle of the shoe. A shoe with just two seems and a clean toe, not just lights. I'd like to think at some point, the style of the MAG will be as popular as a Derby. It will probably never happen due to the sizes of the part needed to make the shoe with only two seams. Cost prohibitive in leather, but with synthetics and micro-fibres, it could happen.
cavx
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Sexy. Well done.
Yeah I agree that EL is too fragile for wearing the way we expect to be able to wear our shoes.
What about casting a flatter flexible part that is the same shape as the EL panel? Kind of like the way I did my GITD kits?
Mine are poured flat and are less than 2mm thick. Mine have Glow powder added, so are not clear, but as a diffuser with LEDs, this might be viable. Especially if you make one side frosted. You'd probably get away with a single, super bright LED.
So how long do your new water clear soles last until they turn yellow when in direct sunlight for a very long time? Also what sizes of V3 do you make the soles for?
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