NEW to TheRPF! First build of TASM (2012)

Discussion in 'Marvel Costumes and Props' started by mahesh114, May 20, 2015.

  1. mahesh114

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    Hey guys!

    So im new to TheRPF in the sense that ive been on it for a while but never contributed to it or made an account! So ive decided to make "The Amazing Spiderman" (2012) suit and webshooters for cosplay. Im going a step beyond for the webshooters and are making them work. in terms of web fluids and formulaes, im a chemistry student so im working on them, with the mechanics of the webshooter working somewhat! Ill be posting updates and stuff, but if anyone that can help with tips or stuff could contribute it would be awesome! The next post will show what ive gotten so far! I will be 3D printing some stuff as i have easy access, but for now ill be working on the lenses and webshooter before i get the print. (Exam mode currently)

    So sorry for the longg essay but heres to a successful build, and to the lovely people of TheRPF!

    Mahesh
     
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    Hey guys! So these are the glasses i managed to get, with the hexagonal grey mesh from old speakers. My aim is to heat the mesh, reform it into the lense shape, whilst the glasses ill reheat the frame and form them. going from there ill chip away the lenses to the right shape. Following from this the mesh will be spray painted gold, and ill probably post once thats done!
     
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    Anyone wanna chip in? Some advice, im having difficulty with the lense sizes. I made the faceshell from Gimpees pep file (http://www.therpf.com/f78/spiderman-face-shell-pepakura-file-foam-version-jfcustom-pdf-added-211099/).


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    Heres the build it fits my head pretty well, a tad tight but workable, im going to spackle it and smooth it to get a cast, then drill holes into it and start sizing the lenses from there. Only concern is everyone is hyped over the TASM2 suits and lenses, and im trying to make a TASM1 suit and lenses. Will update in a bit!
     
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  4. Anzh

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    I really like where this is going, man. Can't wait to see the finished product! :)
     
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    Hey dude! Finally someones emerged! I think i saw you on another spidey forum right? Im having a tough time with the lenses, purely because id rather make them than 3d print it. I got a 3D printer but again, the challenge! Any tips?
     
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  6. OneGoodScare

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    Try makin em outta sculpey
     
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    You think? I could get that like right now its in a store near my house pretty cheap, but im worried when i heat it , it could break like easily? Kinda thing ;/
     
  8. OneGoodScare

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    No it gets nice and rigid and it's even a little bit bendy. It'll snap if you bend it too far though
     
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    Right! Well ill get some tomorrow, im a little unsure for colour wise, would it be ideal to spray the frames black, then the mesh lense gold?
    Or how? Im not sure ive seen so many variations of it :/
     
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    When I did it, I brushed it on in acrylic since it's cheaper than buying a whole bottle of spray paint and that worked fine. For the mesh I did end up spraying so that the holes wouldnt get filled up. And I left the back black for visibility
     
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    Well i already have the paints, pre-hand for another project so cost isnt an issue, but i see your point. Im aiming for a black frame, followed by the gold mesh. Then either a clear screen for protection or a polaroid blue lense cover thing. Ill show more when i finish the faceshell tomorrow, gotta balance revision and this !
     
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    Ok cool ill check it out when you post an update. The paint shouldn't give you any problems though
     
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  13. Anzh

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    haha yeah I think you did. I feel the same. Like OneGoodScare said you could make the frames out of sculpey Firm. Make sure it's the firm kind. Any other kind is not as strong. Also shape them to your face shell before baking them. If you try to bend them after they might snap. I made some test web shooters out of this stuff and threw them around to test it out--they did not break. While the frames will be thinner than the web shooter, it is pretty sturdy. But I also recommend making a mold just in case so you can make more.
     
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    Right well i went to the shops today, but they had a bunch of them! Heres what they had, maybe you could guide me? Im in the UK and when i went to the store that sells it, i asked for Sculpey Firm and they said they never heard of that ?

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Premo-Sculp...8&qid=1432906457&sr=1-5&keywords=Sculpey+Firm
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Super-Sculp...8&qid=1432906457&sr=1-1&keywords=Sculpey+Firm
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sculpey-794...e=UTF8&qid=1432906607&sr=1-2&keywords=Sculpey
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sculpey-Pol...e=UTF8&qid=1432906607&sr=1-8&keywords=Sculpey

    Basically they had these 4, my concern is the top ones a tad too expensive, but if it happens to be that ill probs end up getting it :p.
     
  15. Anzh

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    Yep, it's this one: Super Sculpey Firm http://www.amazon.co.uk/Super-Sculp...8&qid=1432906457&sr=1-1&keywords=Sculpey+Firm. Yeah, it is a bit expensive:(. I found it for $15.00 here in the US...but it works. It's not the only way to do this, though.
     
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    Im gonna keep the Super Sculpey a possibility for the moment. However would the others work? Are they as good or what are the other methods? Ive looked all over but everyones interested in 3D printing. I cant print anything until next weekend because were off on holiday atm.
     
  17. Anzh

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    I tried using Sculpey III and it cracked. They might work, but will definitely not be as strong or durable. Well I've seen people making them out of rubber(print out a stencil for the frames and cut them out of a rubber sheet), and I've also seen people casting them out of resin(Idk if you have the materials for this).
     
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    Yeah the rubber thing sounds too much, and the resin requires even MORE material, i guess ill chip the extra £££ and get the sculpey firm. Only thing is its 454g ! id be happy with 200g to make 4 frames (2 sets). Know of any other place that does it but a smaller quantity?
     
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    I know they have 57g packets, but I haven't seen a Super Sculpey Firm version of those. :unsure
    Even in their web site this is all they have. http://www.sculpey.com/product/super-sculpey-firm/
     
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    So im stuck with the large ones then :/ The 57g ones crack you said? Ill probably have to get it tomorrow then, but if i make a few of them, where can i sell them on theRPF? Im not explorative on this site xD
     
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    Sadly it would appear so. The Sculpey III cracked every time I baked it. Haha I'm actually not sure where to sell them on here, I'm new to it myself. I was wondering the same thing because my might have some extra stuff...I was thinking of giving it away, but they would have to pay for shipping either way.
     
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    Ill get the Firm one then! And i respect you for giving them away! Actually before i took this serious i used to make full suits out of paper, then find them destroyed later by siblings xD But yeah some people on this site go OTT ! Either way ill update this post when something is done
     
  23. OneGoodScare

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    3D printing has really taken off quickly. I remember it being relatively new just a few years back and now it's everywhere. Anyways, I actually used regular sculpey from walmart and it worked fine, when I baked it and everything. The only reason it snapped for me is because they were tasm 2 lenses and therefore thinner (and I messed up in making that spot too thin as well). Tasm lenses being smaller and a bit thicker would be more structurally sound id think. This is just off experience though, I don't really have knowledge on sculpting and clays and all that. Otherwise I would've figured out how to curve the lenses before and not after
     
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    Mannnnn im really indecisive whether to get the firm or regular, Im probably gonna get the firm one, but then again OneGoodScare you have a point. Thats the thing i hated the TASM2 suit and lenses, TASM1 felt more realistic, more spidey-built if you get my drift. The TASM1 lenses were as if Peter built it himself, where as TASM2 was like kinda ehh. The TASM1 lenses are thicker and slightly smaller (11cm x4.5cm) So i could use the standard sculpey. HendoArt used regular on here forum : http://www.therpf.com/showthread.php?t=235000&highlight=spider+gwen and hers turned out pretty * good, but then again those are HUGE!
     
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    Yeah, they both have their pros and cons. The jump to tasm 2's more comic version was a bit weird. I used to love the eyes but they look a little too friendly. I like spidey's eyes to look a little sinister myself, whether they're big or not. The tasm faceshell is better too imo, more slim and not all bobblehead-y. But yeah, I think regular would be fine. Hendo's look nice and thick, which seems like the way to go with sculpey.
     
  26. Anzh

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    Dude, get which ever you think is best. But I would recommend making some kind of mold with either version just in case. Maybe I'm being too cautious, but that's just so you don't have to do all that work again if anything happens. I remember that when the sculpey I was using cracked, I had it baked with a plaster mold, so that may be why it happened. But since Sculpey III is jsut a step down from the Firm version, you should be fine!;)
     
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    haha, I know what you mean. And no problem, if I can help, I'm glad to. I haven't heard anything about the Premo Sculpey, But I have heard from people who work with polymer clay to never sell anything made of Super Sculpey original. I've never used either myself though. :/
     
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    So both are terrible xD I read up about it. Premo is a better quality than regular Sculpey and tougher. HendoArt used this one: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sculpey-Cla...qid=1433108478&sr=8-1&keywords=Sculpey+(8+oz) here is her thread: http://www.therpf.com/showthread.php?t=235000&highlight=sculpey if you see her frames, they are bigger and thicker, but again my TASM1 is smaller and thicker. So im stuck between these two:

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sculpey-Cla...UTF8&qid=1433108849&sr=8-2&keywords=Sculpey+8
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sculpey-794...e=UTF8&qid=1433108853&sr=8-2&keywords=Sculpey
     
  30. Anzh

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    Wow, she did an incredible job.

    I would choose whichever is stronger, which is the Premo?. The TASM1 lenses don't look like they have any fragile or thin parts so you might not have much trouble there. Make sure you have a nice, even structure and you should be fine:). Another product that I've used is Instamorph(thermo plastic beads), you should check it out. You might find some use for it.

    http://www.amazon.com/InstaMorph-Mo...TF8&qid=1433133799&sr=8-2&keywords=instamorph
     
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    Yeah this is the final one im going with, which is the one that Hendo used: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sculpey-Clay-Premo-8oz-White/dp/B007QNEF3C/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1433175820&sr=8-1&keywords=sculpey+o. I looked at the Instamorph, its alot more expensive than the Sculpey and requires alot more of work, but i guess its better, maybe something to try later
     
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    Well this stuff is basically unbreakable and you can reuse it an unlimited amount of times. It's as easy to use as clay, just warm it up in heated water and shape. it is a bit more expensive, but for what it is, it's pretty well priced. I just thought I'd mention it--It's good to know about these materials in case you need them later ;)
     
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    Yeah man, ive got my last exam tomorrow (Statistics ;/) But then after that ill buy the equip i need (scupley bondo ect ect). In the meantime ive been pepping Captain Americas shield, surprisingly i got it printed,glued to card, cut and folded in 1 day! All thats left is glueing it together and hardening it, will save for another post. For the spidey setup though, its been working on the webshooters to make them functional, web formulae is close to a slightly strong adhesive that doesnt corrode easily, but im miles off the real thing. Looking to buy a Notched Izod for the instant pressure of the cartridge. Will post more in the next few days!

    Wish me luck !
     
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    Hey guys! So i ended up buying Sculpey Firm, purely because i wanted to get it right and in good quality, plus pay day came :) As far as the webshooters ive been doing wiring diagrams, thats been slow. The faceshell i had a bit of an issue purely because, when i made it out of cardstock and covered it in masking tape, the masking tape i used was rubbish it kept peeling off. So now the faceshell is still soft and bendable and you can see the tape. Ive been sanding that down and working around it, and from todays work its more stronger and firm but still some crack so im gonna replaster and continue till desired shape. As for the frames i received the Sculpey today so ill get those done for tomorrow. Another issue was that my gold spray had rusted up, probs because cap wasnt on properly, so i found a nice copper/gold spray in stores for about £4 ($4.50) and matches the movie colour!. Will post more in a bit!
     
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    You're making a cap shield as well? Awesome! I can't wait to see the shooters. I've seen a couple formulas being thrown around, but most of them turn to foam when shot out. Also the CO2 tanks usually used end up making the build too bulky :/. Hopefully you can manage something more practical, even if it's not strong enough to hold up a car :).
     
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    Heya! Sorry for the late reply, ended up getting food poisoning on Wednesday, been bed ridden since :/ Ive had a lot of updates, so might aswell do it as one big post! So i ended up cutting the lenses out, spraying them, buying sculpey, working on the faceshell and more! Pictures to follow up! As you can see the visibility of the lenses are ridiculously good! It seems really blurry but thats the best i could get my camera to focus ( Apple fml xD) In real life they are actually really clear to see out of. When the lenses dried, it came out more copperish than i expected, but I personally like it, it gives to feel of it being more made by Peter! Will post more soon!
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    Ahahaha ! The cap shield is a side thing, so thats going to be a slow build! As for the shooters its been more drawings and experimenting, no pics yet but will have some soon!
     
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    Anything new?
     
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    Hey dude! So basically what happened was the faceshell I made i used Spackle (found in a Spider Gwen thread) I use the same materials but unfortunately the shell just collapsed. Not only that but with college and my YT channel growing well I couldnt find time. Plus with more studies I wasnt getting into shape for comic con. HOWEVER! My plan is to restart the build, to be frank I wasnt far and Ive learnt all my mistakes, studies are at bay with great grades YT videos are consistent and Im back to dieting, i need to loose around 7kg (doesnt seem much but will be hard work) In time for the LAGC in July. Ive scheduled all of this and the build has already been planned with materials. In the following month I will revive this thread, and we will kick some spideyass with this! Thank you though for reviving this thread.
     

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