I prefer turn based combat and even though Vats can replicate it the original 2 just are more enjoyable to me. What bethesda did to old harold in Oasis is so far from the original storyline he had in the first version of fallout 3 it's a shame to see them treat him so badly. I would to have liked to have seen some more overlap in NV with the first two games other than a few groups and mentionings as they really did take place close together. I'm hoping fallout 4 gets you more on the east coast.
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Replaying F3 again I think it just has more meat to it. It feels like they put more into the game. In NV there are a lot of locations you go to and there's nothing there. It's just a point on the map that gets you some experience when you find it. There's not too many places like that in F3. Even if there's not much there, there's usually a random encounter that pops something up. The "finding daddy" part of F3 isn't the best story, but I do like the BoS/purifier story much more that the NV story.
I'd also like to see Fallout 4 do more on the east coast since the first two were out west. What I'd really like to see is some more on the Enclave. How did they get that new armor that appears in F3? Where did they retreat to after F3? I'd also like to see The Institute and the Commonwealth. It sounded like a neat place to explore. The Pitt is also an interesting location that I don't think you were allowed to explore enough. Let's go back with the BoS after the events of The Pitt and after the radiation/virus thing was cured.
I'd also like to see Fallout 4 do more on the east coast since the first two were out west. What I'd really like to see is some more on the Enclave. How did they get that new armor that appears in F3? Where did they retreat to after F3? I'd also like to see The Institute and the Commonwealth. It sounded like a neat place to explore. The Pitt is also an interesting location that I don't think you were allowed to explore enough. Let's go back with the BoS after the events of The Pitt and after the radiation/virus thing was cured.
Satxer
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Would you say that it would be good for me to pick up the PC pack of 1 and 2? I just looked at some screenshots, and don't know how the gameplay is.
Is it bad that when I play the mission where you follow the robot to the purifier, and he's killin all those enclaves and saying stuff about communists, that I join him in saying something like: "Yeah! Take that you commie (some type of explative)"
Something that had me curious, should they really have made super-mutants all normal in NV as compared to 3. I mean sure, you have Fawkes, who retains some sorts of knowledge and sanity, but it seemed like every super-mutant in NV was just too normal. I kinda liked the fact that they were just insane bad dudes who's one goal was to kill you.
Is it bad that when I play the mission where you follow the robot to the purifier, and he's killin all those enclaves and saying stuff about communists, that I join him in saying something like: "Yeah! Take that you commie (some type of explative)"
Something that had me curious, should they really have made super-mutants all normal in NV as compared to 3. I mean sure, you have Fawkes, who retains some sorts of knowledge and sanity, but it seemed like every super-mutant in NV was just too normal. I kinda liked the fact that they were just insane bad dudes who's one goal was to kill you.
Jm419
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Well, for my part, Fallout 3 was one of the main reasons I even bought an Xbox 360. I never had a big fat one, I just got a slim when they came out, so I watched all these games go past and I could never play 'em.
The first Bethesda game I played was Morrowind GOTY, which I still say is the best game I ever played. Hundreds of hours of gameplay on it, and I'd still be playing it if my Xbox hadn't crapped out. I played Fallout 3 at a friend's house, and I got hooked. The atmosphere, the gameplay, VATS...
I may be in the minority, but I have to say that the Bethesda games are far superior to the Interplay games. We played Fallout 1 and 2, at least a little bit, while we were supposed to be doing calculus the past semester, and they just seem so crude in comparison. More linear, less enjoyable - but Fallout 3 has that same charm that The Elder Scrolls games have. It's a massive world, and you can do whatever you want - you don't have to follow the story if you don't want to.
The first Bethesda game I played was Morrowind GOTY, which I still say is the best game I ever played. Hundreds of hours of gameplay on it, and I'd still be playing it if my Xbox hadn't crapped out. I played Fallout 3 at a friend's house, and I got hooked. The atmosphere, the gameplay, VATS...
I may be in the minority, but I have to say that the Bethesda games are far superior to the Interplay games. We played Fallout 1 and 2, at least a little bit, while we were supposed to be doing calculus the past semester, and they just seem so crude in comparison. More linear, less enjoyable - but Fallout 3 has that same charm that The Elder Scrolls games have. It's a massive world, and you can do whatever you want - you don't have to follow the story if you don't want to.
Yes. I played Fallout 3 first. I was always put off by RPGs until I played KOTOR and that changed my mind. So I went back and got 1 and 2 off of GOG.com. It's pretty easy to figure out how to play them. Other than the viewing perspective it's a lot like F3 as far as building your character.
Read this: Super mutant - The Vault, the Fallout wiki - Fallout: New Vegas and more
Basically they were created using two different programs.
By the way, while playing F3, I got thinking that you are living in a really harsh environment where death is a daily threat. You have super mutants everywhere, food is scarce, and raiders attack everyone on sight. Then you have some jerk going around wiring the toilets with microfusion cells to shock people! What kind of sick b*stard would do that? :lol
You also have to understand that the FEV mutated over time even in the labs as radiation got through the vault shielding AND they kept working on it in some of the research vaults. My question is in that vault where the audio tones drove everyone nuts who the heck is the researcher running things that you find (or was that the one full of clones?) either way there are still mysteries they never really pay off.
Also how many vaults are there over seas that were knock offs of vault tech or built by them without US knowledge? Heck there could be a series of them that VT built and kept sealed for research that even the Enclave didn't know about.
What I always wondered was this: if the vaults were to be sealed as social experiments and the war just happened to get in the way of it that would mean 1) they'd have to explain to those in the vaults after they opened that it was a mistake to keep them locked in or 2) the enclave or someone involved somehow provoked the bombs to fall as part of the experiment but it got out of hand. The 2nd one sounds like something politicians would do to cut down population issues and try and take over when they got out (aka the Enclave).
I want to see a fan made fallout game that takes place during the war and after. i know there are fan made ones using the Fallout 2 engine.
Also how many vaults are there over seas that were knock offs of vault tech or built by them without US knowledge? Heck there could be a series of them that VT built and kept sealed for research that even the Enclave didn't know about.
What I always wondered was this: if the vaults were to be sealed as social experiments and the war just happened to get in the way of it that would mean 1) they'd have to explain to those in the vaults after they opened that it was a mistake to keep them locked in or 2) the enclave or someone involved somehow provoked the bombs to fall as part of the experiment but it got out of hand. The 2nd one sounds like something politicians would do to cut down population issues and try and take over when they got out (aka the Enclave).
I want to see a fan made fallout game that takes place during the war and after. i know there are fan made ones using the Fallout 2 engine.
Goodwolf
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Good Old Games (gog.com) also has them for around 6 bucks apiece. They've had the DRM removed and have been optimised to run under Windows 7. They come with all documentation in pdf form and sometimes come with extras. Might wanna give'm a look.
I never did figure out why the newest releases still didn't work on windows 7, i guess that's windows for you. I have been buying used copies of all the releases for my collection/display and i nearly had the double jewel case one from 2000 but got outbid. I didn't think anyone else would want an 11 year old pc game lol
I've got Windows 7 64bit and both of the games GOG.com has worked.
SSGT Kitten
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Just to jump in with my two cents, I prefer F3 over NV. NV had some definite interesting ideas, but to me, F3 was about surviving the apocalypse. Yeah, it had happened 200 years before, but all of the basic tensions of the game were based on dealing with the repercussions of a nuclear war. NV was more of pick-your-poison civics lesson. There were lots of things you could do, and the battle for Hoover dam was interesting, but I just didn't feel....obligated? to the parties involved. (Maybe a bit on the Remnant, but that's it). With F3, there were moments were I actually cared about the story and what was happening. When I found Dogmeat in the junkyard, it was a great moment. And the Dunwich Building scared the hell outta me. NV just didn't seem to have that. It was a fun game, and I'm glad I played, but when I beat it I went back to replaying F3. (Although I *do* miss those iron sights...)
Charlie
Charlie
I was reading up on the original games and I miss the sheer amount of silly random encounters you had. I mean in the second one there is a tribute to the original startrek show where you go through a portal that sends you back into Fallout 1 and shows you're the one who broke the water chip by fiddling with it. Bethesda's fallout games are good but it just misses a certain feeling and dark humor that the first two had. Even the opening movies aren't as entertaining. It's like Bethesda decided to go over the top serious. We need to start a petition for the original 2 games to be put on xbox live so we can run them there.
I just started the new New Vegas DLC and it's funny as hell if you love badly written 50s B movies. Just the first conversation with a group of people in the research facility is so over the top you can't help but laugh. Also it pays to have a very very high science skill and barter before you go.
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