New Elstree Studio documentary with discarded Graflex.

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I did an invert and some curves adjustment to show the overexposed areas. If this shows anything it's that the amount of flaring isn't that much.
Don't use it for measurements though: with the sliders it's easy to make the rivets look either larger or smaller.
 
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I did an invert and some curves adjustment to show the overexposed areas. If this shows anything it's that the amount of flaring isn't that much.
Don't use it for measurements though: with the sliders it's easy to make the rivets look either larger or smaller.
Thanks for the warning, I stopped myself. This is neat, you can actually see some of the lensing!

Am I seeing the highest (or lowest) of those grip rivets cut off on one side? like they hammered or sanded the edge sticking up so it was flush with the bottom?
 
Man, they must have used the discarded Elstree Graflex to pound nails into boards on set.

Look how deformed the bottom of the flash is, either from the bottom of the flash being pounded against concrete, or partially crushed in a vice.

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It takes significant force to make a flash bottom “bulge” outward, as seen here.
 
No, that's the V2.

This was found "in the trash" at Elstree, before Empire began production, as I understand it.
 
It’s been a while since I watched the documentary associated with this Graflex but didn’t one kid get it from the Elstree backlot and then at some point gave it to another kid?

For all we know some of that damage could have been from those kids banging around with that flash, not necessarily from the production crew. Sure the kids didn’t weld the plate on the top but the smashed end cap or bent top could have happened anytime in the last 40 years. It didn’t look 100% exactly like this the second it was tossed out with the trash.
 
It’s been a while since I watched the documentary associated with this Graflex but didn’t one kid get it from the Elstree backlot and then at some point gave it to another kid?

For all we know some of that damage could have been from those kids banging around with that flash, not necessarily from the production crew. Sure the kids didn’t weld the plate on the top but the smashed end cap or bent top could have happened anytime in the last 40 years. It didn’t look 100% exactly like this the second it was tossed out with the trash.


The damage and the bulge in the bottom tube could well have come from being buried under tons of junk.
 
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Here are the two belt images next to each other and you can see that there is indeed some flaring (not that much though).
But if you want you can see 4 same size rivets on the bottom, in which case the two left rivets are half covered under the T-track. These four are definitely smaller than the belt rivets.
So, in other words: I have no clue. But I still think that the two small/two larger rivets is more accurate and a better option to fit underneath the grip.

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This makes perfect sense to me. Roy's reverse engineering discoveries on the varying rivet sizes in between the grips seems like the most plausible answer thus far.
 
Man, they must have used the discarded Elstree Graflex to pound nails into boards on set.

Look how deformed the bottom of the flash is, either from the bottom of the flash being pounded against concrete, or partially crushed in a vice.

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It takes significant force to make a flash bottom “bulge” outward, as seen here.
That's why I'm thinking it was intentional and not accidental, but of course this is speculation.
 
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