New Elstree Studio documentary with discarded Graflex.
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For the clip to be bent back it would need to be hit across the back side opposite the riveted side. An awkward hit from a drop. All I can speculate as to what may have happened would be something hypothetical like this: It was converted into a stunt and used for practice? The clamp if it was on the other way like in the first set of photos would be more comfortable to hold, but also expose more of your fingers. When people spar with practice swords, getting hit in the hands happens a lot, enough to make you drop it and curse. If it still had some grips on it, and they were super glued on they would all come flying off. Certain glues are not shock resistant. You would really need to drop one on the concrete to see if that would cause that sort of damage.
Another thing I forgot to mention was, I saw some deleted footage in Ben's cave, and I vaguely remember seeing Mark holding the saber with his finger through the D ring swinging it around. (Maybe someone can confirm or correct me on that.) For all we know he could have bent it back fidgeting, people do weird stuff. Really depends on the gauge of thickness of the clip too. All it takes is a good tug on the D ring towards the riveted side and it will fold. Well it did in my experiment.
I don't see the FX/stunt sabers being used for practice. Hamill just waved the FX stunt around in one scene, and mimed deflecting training remote blasts in the other. ANH didn't have the sort of intense fight choreography that ESB did. And there were at least two Kenobi stunts to practice with for the Vader/Kenobi duel.
And, yes, even in the finished film, Hamill dangles the prop from its d-ring when he slaps Artoo on the dome and says, "How am I ever gonna explain this?".
And, yes, even in the finished film, Hamill dangles the prop from its d-ring when he slaps Artoo on the dome and says, "How am I ever gonna explain this?".
From the dull reflection in the toe pic, I'd assume mat aluminium. But material might be hard to judge. But the finish seems dull to me because of the evenly bright shine.
AnubisGuard
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If the d-ring mount in ANH really was flimsy, hand-cut sheet metal, it might explain the switch to the Kobold clip for ESB. I've always wondered why they would go to the trouble of drilling holes in a flash part not meant for a d-ring if they already had a sturdy and professional method of attachment.
one of the Jobs in film industry is the stand by prop guy. HIs job is take care of the props. In filming, the common practice is doing the rehearsals with back ups, when time of filming the take comes, they change it with the hero prop.
Every scene has rehearshals, as film is expensive.
Every scene has rehearshals, as film is expensive.
Yeah, I'm aware. But I don't see a scenario were a stunt prop was used for rehearsals that would actually cause it damage. The Luke FX/stunt prop was used in any combat scenes until it was used as a backup for the initial Vader stunt/Barbican, which was after the filming of Hamill's saber scenes.
R5D4
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Yeah, definitely aluminium. It's a bit blueish compared to the nickel and chrome.
newmagrathea
Sr Member
I don't know why, but I think that is a sexy saber. I kinda need one. Just wait, someone will come forward with it soon.
Totally sidebar topic, but has anyone ever made a “Finse Saber” variant with the 7 straight ESB style, vs. angled ANH style, grips and NO fasteners?
Yeah, I totally agree, it stress's and cracks and tears, and the colour. You can see all this in these photos. Also they raided salvage from aircraft junk yards, so lots of Aluminum there in those parts, so that's a possibility.
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