Announcement More minor changes.

I will withhold judgment until I see the final product, but it sounds like you're going with just one set look for the site, without any personal customization at all. Am I mistaken?

You are not mistaken. We are moving to a single look/style for the site. Managing multiple styles has proved to be problematic and in general is an outdated concept dating back to a time when having multiple looks trumped content. We are creating a single, generic look that definitely has style, but doesn't draw attention to itself and instead focuses attention on the content of the site.

If not, I really hope you mean it with the use of gentler colors. Use of the "Inverse" theme isn't a matter of things going out of style and trying to hold on to it; I couldn't care less if the "Legacy" theme goes away. With the default theme as it is, on my regular screen I get a square of white surrounded by black bars. This can be killer on my sensitive eyes at night, even with room lighting and screen brightness adjusted. It can be worse when looking at a mobile or handheld device, almost like starring at a light bulb.

Let me share our process for the new look;

First we did research and decided on a look that does, in some ways, mimic the current default, which is a dark chrome, with a light content area and dark text. This pulls your eye to the content (stay with me, because I know where you are going) and not to the chrome. We then used a graphic designer to mellow all the colors and make them as unobtrusive and as limited in contrast as possible. We actually went a bit too far with that initially as some of the colors were so subtle that it was hard to read on certain computers (because everyone's monitor is different). We had to come back in and punch some of the colors up just a bit so they were easier to read, but have maintained a VERY neutral contrast without the stark white you see in the current style. In fact, I don't think we actually use pure white anywhere on the site other than in the "RPF" of our logo at the top of the page.

I really hope there will be some personal options/customizations allowed to the background color or themes. You can see that people use both options, not only for preference but for health reasons. (See: 1 and 2.) I mean, there was a whole page of colored RPF test logos in the announcement thread, so I thought there would at least be an allowance of a background color choice. Even sites like Reddit and others (which it seems like we're trying to be more like) have preferences and tweaks available...

The logo and header banner will auto rotate to show off different looks, but the chrome and background will not change.
 
Just a note; we have a number of members on the test site, taking a look at it and giving us feedback. So far, their input has been very positive. Only saying this so you guys don't think we are doing this in a cave, without any input at all.
 
Just a note; we have a number of members on the test site, taking a look at it and giving us feedback. So far, their input has been very positive. Only saying this so you guys don't think we are doing this in a cave (WITH A BOX OF SCRAPS!!!), without any input at all.

Fixed it for you...
 
Fixed it for you...

Nice! :lol:lol:lol

So, for those who want a brief glimpse to see that we aren't doing something crazy... here is a comparison of two posts, one using our current default theme and one from the new look for the site. Note that while we are still technically using dark text on a light background, that we have knocked down the contrast considerably.

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For those who are still wanting light text on a dark background... I just don't know what to tell you. For the most part, that went out of style in the early 2000s and we have no intention of revisiting it.

So...I'm guessing I shouldn't be holding out hope for animated gifs of bowing genies and lit torches everywhere with autoplaying midi music?

Somebody write THAT greasemonkey script, stat! :lol

Seriously though, that new design looks incredible! I'm really pumped for the switchover now!

-Nick
 
Amen!

All for resetting the rep and sitting up some manageable guidelines for it to avoid abuse. It really should be a main forum feature, anyway.

-Rylo

Personally I say just be done with it and blow it away like the thread rating. A peer recognition system is impossible to police so unless rep is something that's only given by mods and forum leaders it's likely to remain pointless.
 
Just for you guys...

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That takes me back...to these sorts of days (MB, you should like this, it's got some colo(u)r) : Untitled Document

Good times.

Personally, I'm a fan of greyscale as the primary palette. Done correctly, it can look really sleek and professional while still giving enough contrast to pop.

In terms of small changes, I have to ask: are we going to have any changes to the smilies/emoticons with the changeover?

-Nick
 
That takes me back...to these sorts of days (MB, you should like this, it's got some colo(u)r) : Untitled Document

If it wouldn't be so much work, I swear, I'd do a style like this.





In terms of small changes, I have to ask: are we going to have any changes to the smilies/emoticons with the changeover?

We haven't looked at them yet. I have found it very tough to find a decent set of emoticons that are consistent and include everything we need. Why do you ask?
 
If it wouldn't be so much work, I swear, I'd do a style like this.
If I ever come into a huge sum of cash, I will personally pay someone to make a similarly styled skin for the site...and maintain it.


We haven't looked at them yet. I have found it very tough to find a decent set of emoticons that are consistent and include everything we need. Why do you ask?

It just struck me by how much the current set would stand out when compared the crispness of the redesign, what with their aliasing and range of colors. Obviously some of the more unique ones would have to be kept for the sake of legacy posts, but as I was typing my reply, seeing all those happy (or not so happy) smilies, I was just struck by how strange they might look if everything else becomes sleek.

In my mind's eye, something like Facebook's set would work well on what little I've seen of the redesign. But knowing how hard it is to find a good set of social media buttons for a site in the era of social media, I can't fathom how few well-designed emoticon sets exist when most sites treat them more like an easter egg.

-Nick
 
It doesn't matter to me. I'll get used to the new format. Just like I've gotten used to Yahoo's new format. Or when MSN made me change to Skype and Outlook. I'm just here to watch and learn great things and occasionally shoot the **** in the OT. As long as I can do that, I'm fine with what Art and company thinks is best for the site and its members.
 
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