Mandalorian Season 3

[Jamesfett]

If something can be done, it is going to be done, so discussing whether it should or should not be done does not do much.

Best to figure out how to deal with it instead.

Having said that could Terminator robots, AI, or any other technological overlord really do a worse job than we are doing?

 

[Riceball]

Im not a computer guy, so I may be laughed at when I say this

But im afraid of AI some how activating nuclear weapons..

As I understand how the launching of US nukes, both on land and on subs. is still a manual process requiring 2 people, each with a key to unlock the launch capability. And I believe that the launch mechanisms in both silos and subs are still analog and offline. However, it is possible for an AI to send a launch authorization code to nuke officers along with fake news/orders detailing why the launch authorization was sent. This would be a more likely scenario for SSBNs since they're cut off from the world while on patrol and have no idea what's been going on since they left to go on patrol.

 

[simiouno]

In the book Dune , thinking machines are forbidden. . Very wise !

 

[AJK001]

Can someone please clue me into why we are discussing AI in the Mandalorian thread? I could have sworn I saw a dedicated AI thread.

 

[Solo4114]

I liked Season 3. I thought the focus wavered a bit, but, meh, I guess I just don't care with these shows. I just like seeing more and more of the Star Wars universe.

 

[simiouno]

Can someone please clue me into why we are discussing AI in the Mandalorian thread? I could have sworn I saw a dedicated AI thread.

I'm easy to confuse ... Please stand by !

 

[TazMan2000]

As I understand how the launching of US nukes, both on land and on subs. is still a manual process requiring 2 people, each with a key to unlock the launch capability. And I believe that the launch mechanisms in both silos and subs are still analog and offline. However, it is possible for an AI to send a launch authorization code to nuke officers along with fake news/orders detailing why the launch authorization was sent. This would be a more likely scenario for SSBNs since they're cut off from the world while on patrol and have no idea what's been going on since they left to go on patrol.

I'm not sure about the land based silos, as most, if not all, are unmanned, and of course, spread out over many northern states. But if there are bunkers that control them, then I think that they would have a dual set of keys...According to the movies and TV shows.

Submarines can still communicate while on patrol, both by raising an antenna while on the surface an below the surface using a buoy using VLF but while submerged, it is one-way communication. They used to communicate using ELF, but those transmitting stations were abandoned in 2004.

TazMan2000

 

[Riceball]

I'm not sure about the land based silos, as most, if not all, are unmanned, and of course, spread out over many northern states. But if there are bunkers that control them, then I think that they would have a dual set of keys...According to the movies and TV shows.

Submarines can still communicate while on patrol, both by raising an antenna while on the surface an below the surface using a buoy using VLF but while submerged, it is one-way communication. They used to communicate using ELF, but those transmitting stations were abandoned in 2004.

TazMan2000

It's my understanding with boomers is that once they reach their designated patrol area, they go radio silent. Sure, they can be reached via VLF and told to come to periscope depth to receive a longer message, but I think that's a rare occurrence since coming to periscope depth makes them much easier to detect.

 

[TazMan2000]

It's my understanding with boomers is that once they reach their designated patrol area, they go radio silent. Sure, they can be reached via VLGF and told to come to periscope depth to receive a longer message, but I think that's a rare occurrence since coming to periscope depth makes them much easier to detect.

Absolutely. They don't necessarily have to surface to communicate, but the nearer they are to the surface the chances of the enemy finding them is easier. They have a set of orders and they follow them. Communication would only need to be established if the orders needed to be changed or if something critically important needed to be communicated either from land to sea or vise versa.

A lot of their tactics are highly classified, and from the shows that I watched and submariners I have spoken to, one of the more realistic depictions is the Hunt for Red October and Crimson tide. Of course, even those movies "Hollywoodized" what really happens. In the movies they also have to really dumb-down the conversation between the crew, since 99.9% of the audience would have no idea what they were saying.

TazMan2000

 

[Halliwax]

As I understand how the launching of US nukes, both on land and on subs. is still a manual process requiring 2 people, each with a key to unlock the launch capability. And I believe that the launch mechanisms in both silos and subs are still analog and offline. However, it is possible for an AI to send a launch authorization code to nuke officers along with fake news/orders detailing why the launch authorization was sent. This would be a more likely scenario for SSBNs since they're cut off from the world while on patrol and have no idea what's been going on since they left to go on patrol.

Check out Russia’s “black hand”, scares the hell out of me

 

[Riceball]

Absolutely. They don't necessarily have to surface to communicate, but the nearer they are to the surface the chances of the enemy finding them is easier. They have a set of orders and they follow them. Communication would only need to be established if the orders needed to be changed or if something critically important needed to be communicated either from land to sea or vise versa.

A lot of their tactics are highly classified, and from the shows that I watched and submariners I have spoken to, one of the more realistic depictions is the Hunt for Red October and Crimson tide. Of course, even those movies "Hollywoodized" what really happens. In the movies they also have to really dumb-down the conversation between the crew, since 99.9% of the audience would have no idea what they were saying.

TazMan2000

A friend of mine likes to joke, and quite rightly, that being a submariner is the worst job in the Navy if one of the reasons for joining the Navy was to see the world. As a submariner, all you ever see of the world is your homeport, an attack boat might occasionally make a port call, but probably very infrequently if they do, and I'm pretty confident that boomers never visit foreign ports.

 

[Analyzer]

A friend of mines likes to joke, and quite rightly, that being a submariner is the worst job in the Navy if one of the reasons for joining the Navy was to see the world. As a submariner, all you ever see of the world is your homeport, an attack boat might occasionally make a port call, but probably very infrequently if they do, and I'm pretty confident that boomers never visit foreign ports.

My uncle was a radar man on a sub back in the 50s and 60s. While theor home port was in Norfol, they used to cruise the Caribbean and occasionally hit a remote sub port there (in the Bahamas I think)

 

[Analyzer]

As I understand how the launching of US nukes, both on land and on subs. is still a manual process requiring 2 people, each with a key to unlock the launch capability. And I believe that the launch mechanisms in both silos and subs are still analog and offline. However, it is possible for an AI to send a launch authorization code to nuke officers along with fake news/orders detailing why the launch authorization was sent. This would be a more likely scenario for SSBNs since they're cut off from the world while on patrol and have no idea what's been going on since they left to go on patrol.

They also had those handheld Nuclear "guns" stationed all over Europe
the Davvy Crocket

Obviously no where near as destructive as larger bombs and also likely to kill the people launching them as well

 

[CT1138]

I liked Season 3. I thought the focus wavered a bit, but, meh, I guess I just don't care with these shows. I just like seeing more and more of the Star Wars universe.

Agreed, and honestly, the previous two seasons had plenty of meandering of their own. If you can't find enjoyment from Jack Black and Christopher Lloyd in Star Wars, you really have to be dead inside.

 

[Captain Dunsel]

 

[Joek3rr]

Seems like didn't miss much.

You know I think the Star Wars shows could benefit from some experienced sci-fi writers. People who know the benefit of consistent in-universe mechanics and lore. And we're talking about little things here. Like jet pack flight times.

 

[Jaitea]

Hey, just had a thought

The way that Series 2 ended with Luke showing up & taking Grogu for training,....then being undone in the Boba show,....my initial thought (& still is my belief) was the executives in Disney being outraged that the wee green guy being potentially out of the series for a while, & they stomped their feet, insisting that somehow Grogu HAD to be brought back,....but thinking about Mark Hamill's announcement that he thinks his time portraying Luke are finished,...could also be, the executives (KK), outraged by the reaction that Mando got for bringing Luke back & being the undoing of everything that the Sequel Trilogy achieved in destroying this character, ordered that Luke was to reappear for ONE episode (roughly), & one episode in a side series, not even in Mando, & that would be the end of that direction,.....& also Luke's character seemed cold & uncaring, even as far as sending Grogu off to Mando with just Artoo

Looking back over this series & the Boba show, its clear something drastic has happened, I think the decline in Mandoverse is because Jon Favreau, who had a clear vision on where he was heading, has now lost interest & his power over the series, after his surprise reveal of Luke returning & Grogu leaving the show, executives have stepped in & he has had his wings clipped & Filoni is now running the Mandoverse, he is still there & pushed to the front to look like things are running as normal, but I think he's left the project

J

 

[Halliwax]

I love how every actor says they are “done”. You hang a big enough carrot in front of their face and they will be back quicker then you blink.

 

[Halliwax]

Wait.. didn’t even daisy ridley go on record saying she’ll never do another Star Wars film?

I know Oscar Isaac said he wouldn’t, and I even believe he said because the franchise is too toxic..

 

[NakedMoleRat]

Hey, just had a thought

The way that Series 2 ended with Luke showing up & taking Grogu for training,....then being undone in the Boba show,....my initial thought (& still is my belief) was the executives in Disney being outraged that the wee green guy being potentially out of the series for a while, & they stomped their feet, insisting that somehow Grogu HAD to be brought back,....but thinking about Mark Hamill's announcement that he thinks his time portraying Luke are finished,...could also be, the executives (KK), outraged by the reaction that Mando got for bringing Luke back & being the undoing of everything that the Sequel Trilogy achieved in destroying this character, ordered that Luke was to reappear for ONE episode (roughly), & one episode in a side series, not even in Mando, & that would be the end of that direction,.....& also Luke's character seemed cold & uncaring, even as far as sending Grogu off to Mando with just Artoo

Looking back over this series & the Boba show, its clear something drastic has happened, I think the decline in Mandoverse is because Jon Favreau, who had a clear vision on where he was heading, has now lost interest & his power over the series, after his surprise reveal of Luke returning & Grogu leaving the show, executives have stepped in & he has had his wings clipped & Filoni is now running the Mandoverse, he is still there & pushed to the front to look like things are running as normal, but I think he's left the project

J

They had Grogu train with Luke because George Lucas told Favreau that he should be trained by a Jedi at least for a while so that he would later learn to control the Force.

That’s why he left in season two and why he came back in The Comic Book of Boba Fett.

Though they didn’t state how long he was gone, it was implied that at least some time had passed.