Magic of Myth ( MoM ) Luke RotJ Hero ( cave build ) lightsaber research, images, reference, & collaborative model builder's discussion.

[PrinceZip]

The 3D model looks amazing guys
I'm just waiting for the official run release.

That said, I'm quite apprehensive about you guys teaming up with 7Chambers.
Lewis's "Ultimate Hero" run and AniFlex were big let downs and riddled with defects, delays, and inaccuracies.
To my recollection, even Derrek didn't give much positive feedbacks for 7C or its manufacturing factory

 

[Verity Cosplay]

The 3D model looks amazing guys
I'm just waiting for the official run release.

That said, I'm quite apprehensive about you guys teaming up with 7Chambers.
Lewis's "Ultimate Hero" run and AniFlex were big let downs and riddled with defects, delays, and inaccuracies.
To my recollection, even Derrek didn't give much positive feedbacks for 7C or its manufacturing factory

certainly cannot begrudge the hesitance. I know a lot of customers have been left unhappy recently.

what does give me hope however is that Lewis is intending to return to his trusted machinist that he built his original quality reputation with. I cannot speak fully for Lewis but part of his recent issues were cost-cutting machinists that did not deliver the quality we all expect to see.

Lewis also has made infrastructural changes specifically to address delays.

As for accuracy? Yes I absolutely agree the UH was off the mark by a large margin. The model linked above is precisely what has been spec'd for machining and BRRogers and I both are personally going to be inspecting every last detail of the prototype before it ever goes to production. If the model is not faithfully delivered then we won't be satisfied.

That all said, I presume at SOME point someone will want to pick up this model for another commercial run, and we may produce some surplus for hesitant folks who want to skip the first wave and exist in a "wait and see" mode.

All of this and more is being discussed amongst Bryan, Lewis and myself. When we open the official run signup (which will be a separate thread, since we want to keep this one about information, research and the models themselves that folks are doing), we will discuss all of this.

As you can clearly see from the 27 pages of this thread, BRRogers and I are all about transparency and providing the rationale behind every element of this design. We want to carry that same behavior to the production run as well.

 

[BRRogers]

Any Disney 4K sleuths and practical film electronics wizards!
Feel free to deduce and recreate these parameters with technology available by 1982!

 

[Verity Cosplay]

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Any Disney 4K sleuths and practical film electronics wizards!
Feel free to deduce and recreate these parameters with technology available by 1982!

It's very likely the tool was placed on a momentary as I doubt they'd have an actor touch a pad...

Occam's razor: which is more likely:

"put the tip of the tool on these two solder pads and bridge the connection here..."

or

"put the tip of the tool on this little button here."

honestly it could even be a simple as a dip switch... those were common mechanical switches on boards back then.

tool goes in flips it... he tinkers a bit more for theatrical effect. Flips it back.

 

[Verity Cosplay]

Rewatched the scene like about 20 times. Here is what I think is happening:

tool goes in at the front of the box and amidst tinkering flips a main dip switch to turn the system on. Green light flashes....

Tool goes in the back and we see red come on and green go off. This seems to be either a potentiometer type thing where he turns it to divert the led, or presses a momentary to divert the signal.

My dip switch theory doesn't hold based on what I am seeing because the movements are not such to lend a dip toggle.

(the initial one in front seems to be though)

 

[JediRabbi]

Just wanted to share how much I'm enjoying this thread. I signed up on the interest poll on TRA and am completely stoked for this project. By the fans, for the fans! Thank you for all of your hard work...and for bringing some much-needed, hardcore geekery at the end of a long day.

 

[Verity Cosplay]

Just wanted to share how much I'm enjoying this thread. I signed up on the interest poll on TRA and am completely stoked for this project. By the fans, for the fans! Thank you for all of your hard work...and for bringing some much-needed, hardcore geekery at the end of a long day.

We do enjoy our Geekery. You should see the chat history between BRRogers and I. It's astounding lol.

 

[BRRogers]

We do enjoy our Geekery. You should see the text history between BRRogers and I. It's astounding lol.

Oh god.

Months and months of monotony... I pity anyone who goes through that log.... and the modeler who put up with my observational obstinance to get to this point

 

[KorribanKnight]

The 3D model looks amazing guys
I'm just waiting for the official run release.

That said, I'm quite apprehensive about you guys teaming up with 7Chambers.
Lewis's "Ultimate Hero" run and AniFlex were big let downs and riddled with defects, delays, and inaccuracies.
To my recollection, even Derrek didn't give much positive feedbacks for 7C or its manufacturing factory

So because you brought up the subject, is the Aniflex from 7Chambers not accurate either?

 

[Verity Cosplay]

So because you brought up the subject, is the Aniflex from 7Chambers not accurate either?

I've not done any research on the Aniflex so I cannot comment on its accuracy. I DO know the Aniflex run was definitely plagued with delays. I vaguely recall some parts had to be remachined due to initial defects as well which further delayed it. I could be misremembering the circumstances though, I will concede.

 

[Gregatron]

I was in on both the Ultimate Hero and Aniflex runs. The hero has problems which have already been catalogued, and I still haven’t received the replacement grenade section. That seems moot, given the trade-in, theoretically. However, I do find myself wondering about sending back the flawed version and then playing the waiting game all over again for the new one.

As for the Aniflex, it should in theory be shipping, now. From the available images and renders, it looks pretty dead-on, but we'll see. Maybe. It’s literally been month after month of delays and promised shipping dates passing by, one after another.

 

[KorribanKnight]

Yeah, I’m waiting some feedback from some expert eyes before maybe getting one as there is still not any accurate one beside the OM/Ace.

 

[PrinceZip]

KorribanKnight
Yes, the 7C Aniflex is inaccurate in many areas, compared to the screen used hero they modeled it after.
The rear button base sits too high, there's a random hole in the clamp, the emitter ring, and the pommel are all inaccurate.

 

[BRRogers]

Alrighty gang let’s not take a detour out of Hero discussion into production runs or other lightsabers.

Like I said this thread is about the observing and recording the Hero... that information will inform the runs happening but I’d like to keep *those* discussions separate as well. (That’s why I’ve linked to current Hero saber runs /models out of this thread)

Discussion over 7 Chambers is valid but creating a specific discussion thread might be more helpful to highlight/discuss those things.

 

[KorribanKnight]

KorribanKnight
Yes, the 7C Aniflex is inaccurate in many areas, compared to the screen used hero they modeled it after.
The rear button base sits too high, there's a random hole in the clamp, the emitter ring, and the pommel are all inaccurate.

Noted! Thank you for telling me that.

 

[thd9791]

Am I right in thinking there is poor lighting around the Hero in Japan right now, creating a shadow in the nipple? There are very few things we don't know about the outside of the hero by this point!

 

[thd9791]

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Any Disney 4K sleuths and practical film electronics wizards!
Feel free to deduce and recreate these parameters with technology available by 1982!

and here I thought the raised circuit board was just for decoration, covering the real components underneath.

If the board is that high, there might be more room underneath for batteries, giving credence to the idea that a Yuma stunt was altered and the saber might be more solid than hollow.

Edit: yep, the switch slides left to right across the control box (away from the LED arrows -> towards the arrows)

 

[thd9791]

Wondering if this is the same board, maybe put in backwards? can't be, there's no switch... unless that thing at the back is a switch but I don't recognize it

 

[Verity Cosplay]

Wondering if this is the same board, maybe put in backwards? can't be, there's no switch... unless that thing at the back is a switch but I don't recognize it

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So I keep looking at this board. And then watching the scene, and then looking at this again. And I am struggling because there is clearly a switch at the front of the box to power on the system. The rear box tinkering is a mystery to me still. But this pic doesn't show even the switch at the front since it has the ICU visible there... could this be a different board than was actually shot in the scene?

would he interesting to see if there are inconsistencies between the 4K screen stills and then this pic.

 

[Dann]

Yeah, I don't think it's the same board, but I've been wrong before!!