Darth Lars
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Oh, I've had a boss (CEO) that was an drunkard. The investors knew about it and let him be for a long time ... until that time where he gate-crashed an investors' meeting for something else and made them look bad.
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HeartBlade
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Was the CEO still keeping the company profitable? Maybe he was capable enough that they could overlook his vice.
Darth Lars
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For all I know, it never made a profit, with or without him.
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ghostryder
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Joek3rr
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The timing is impeccable.
You can put them in, but you have to leave the gravity well of a planet before the hyperdrive will function. Well until Disney decides that is not how they work... You can do something like Han did in TFA where he exited Hyperspace inside a gravity well, but it's insane and you have to cut out all the safeties.
ghostryder
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Joek3rr
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Another low effort meme that conveniently missed the truth...
Why does everyone assume JJ is talking about the Sequels? He's asked about the Sequels. But in typical JJ fashion he danced around the question, not really giving a answer. He says that in his career, sometimes they have had plans. Sometimes they haven't. Sometimes their plan ended up getting in the way. So which part is referring to the Sequels?
And I always remind people. If they didn't have any plan at all, how was Adam Driver able to say this? "With Star Wars, I had one piece of information of where it was all going, and that's where it has been in my head for a long time, and things were building towards that."
Why does everyone assume JJ is talking about the Sequels? He's asked about the Sequels. But in typical JJ fashion he danced around the question, not really giving a answer. He says that in his career, sometimes they have had plans. Sometimes they haven't. Sometimes their plan ended up getting in the way. So which part is referring to the Sequels?
And I always remind people. If they didn't have any plan at all, how was Adam Driver able to say this? "With Star Wars, I had one piece of information of where it was all going, and that's where it has been in my head for a long time, and things were building towards that."
I'm glad you're here to be the arbiter of meme quality....
I'm almost back to enjoying being told how we are all wrong, now that JJ is also wrong too.
HeartBlade
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Lol so not only are we, Daisy, RJ, and a whole bunch of journalists wrong about the fact that there was no plan; Abrams who directed two of the three movies is also wrong too and was unaware of the grand plan he wasnt part of.
So when Abrams is asked directly by Collider if he feels the ST would have been better off with a plan, he:
- dances around the question talking about the benefits of having and not having a plan.
- but ultimately concludes that its better to have a plan and be willing or able to change it than to have no plan at all.
collider.com
I mean we cant interpret any other way. He was asked about Star Wars and gives his conclusion that a changeable plan is better than no plan.
So when Abrams is asked directly by Collider if he feels the ST would have been better off with a plan, he:
- dances around the question talking about the benefits of having and not having a plan.
- but ultimately concludes that its better to have a plan and be willing or able to change it than to have no plan at all.
J.J. Abrams Reflects on 'Star Wars' and When It's Critical to Have a Plan
"I do think that there’s nothing more important than knowing where you’re going.”
collider.com
I mean we cant interpret any other way. He was asked about Star Wars and gives his conclusion that a changeable plan is better than no plan.
Joek3rr
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Never said JJ was wrong. But he has way of answering without answering.
Not to mention things his said about the development of the Sequels. Particularly TFA. He claims when he was brought on board, the mandate from Disney was to start over. Yet everything and everyone else tells that JJ was brought on to help Michael Ardnt (Michael Ardnt of course is one who wrote a 40 to 50 page treatment for the whole of Sequels) and Lawrence Kasdan, and they infact did not start over. And they continued work on writing episode 7. So somebody be a lying....
Joek3rr
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We've already been through this numerous times. Daisy was misinformed. JJ didn't write anything for episode 8. Also she says that she thought there was general consensus about the direction of the Sequels *cough* a plan, if she's right. But as we've already seen, she can't be relied upon. So next.Lol so not only are we, Daisy, RJ, and a whole bunch of journalists wrong about the fact that there was no plan; Abrams who directed two of the three movies is also wrong too and was unaware of the grand plan he wasnt part of.
So when Abrams is asked directly by Collider if he feels the ST would have been better off with a plan, he:
- dances around the question talking about the benefits of having and not having a plan.
- but ultimately concludes that its better to have a plan and be willing or able to change it than to have no plan at all.
J.J. Abrams Reflects on 'Star Wars' and When It's Critical to Have a Plan
"I do think that there’s nothing more important than knowing where you’re going.”
I mean we cant interpret any other way. He was asked about Star Wars and gives his conclusion that a changeable plan is better than no plan.
Rian, says he was told he had to do anything. I believe him. But I also believe he was a very happy and willing team player. So he went right along with everyone ideas. The story group seemed to enjoy working with him. Dave Filoni certainly enjoyed his time learning from Rian.
And what about JJ's "answers"? He is asked if Sequel Trilogy would have benefited from a plan? His answer? (Paraphrased) 'Well some projects I've done you have a plan, and as you go you end up doing the opposite. Because something didn't work out. Sometimes the plan doesn't work. Sometimes it ends up working out better to go against your plan. But yes it's always nice to have a plan.'
Well that's clear as mud.....
And remember this is guy who was working with Michael Ardnt, who wrote a 40 to 50 page treatment that became the outline for Sequels. Now how much the films differed from the outline, we'll never know. (Probably, but I hope not.) But as JJ just said, sometimes you end up doing the opposite of what you planned....so.... I don't know what to make of any of this.
HeartBlade
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Yes we have. And despite new evidence to the contrary, you still resort to the same now old “evidence” to defend your claim that there is a plan.
So again, Daisy is wrong and doesnt know anything.
Rian is a “team player” for some reason even though he states he had no idea about a plan for episode 9 and what Ben’s fate was going to be, handing off the story so it can go in a variety of directions.
Abrams, when asked about the ST process of just handing off the story instead of having a plan, concludes “You just never really know, but having a plan I have learned – in some cases the hard way – is the most critical thing, because otherwise you don’t know what you’re setting up.”
Its clear from the tone and the fact that this is the answer to Collider’s question that the ST did not have a plan and Abrams believed it would have been better if they did.
But this has been discussed ad nauseum and even if Kennedy came out and said we had no plan, you would still disagree and insist they did so why bother.
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Joek3rr
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Again. Daisy claims JJ wrote a treatment for episode 8. JJ claims he didn't, because, wait for it, he simply didn't have the time. Which is more plausible and who do you think is telling the truth? JJ does say that he Lawrence did comes up with a bunch of ideas that for episode 8, and that Rian took those idea and ran with them. "So the story he told took what we were doing and went in the direction that he felt was best but that is very much in line with what we were thinking as well." This jives with Daisy's other comments. "I believe there was some sort of general consensus on the main storylines that would happen in the trilogy,"
Rian's statements are about Ben's death. Not his redemption, that was already set in stone as early as 2014. Who was going to die, was up in the air, one of them was.
"Rey's death, Before taking over as Production Designer I did this sketch in November '17. I worked through the third act's beats, filling in the story so as to understand it visually. The concept of force healing was there from the start but it wasn't specific who would actually die." - K. Jenkins
And again we take not only JJ's comments, but everyone's comments in light of what we know. We KNOW that there was was 40 to 50 page outline written by Michael Ardnt. Some of which we KNOW was informing Leia's backstory in TROS, and Luke's exile in TLJ.
Just got to face it my friend, JoeK3rr has decreed we're all wrong....
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