The safeties with the hole in it are generally from the 1930 or M30 Mausers - also the M712. The interior parts are different notably the lock frame and safety mechanism - which wouldn’t matter if it where a static prop but most likely would not function properly in a live fire prop.
 
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Different lock frames.
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Since many C96s have a hole through the safety, why wouldn't this one? The picture above certainly suggests it has the hole, and I can't find any that as convincingly suggest it doesn't.
 
The safeties with the hole in it are generally from the 1930 or M30 Mausers - also the M712. The interior parts are different notable the lock frame and wouldn’t matter if it where static but most likely would not function properly in a live fire prop.
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Well, the two styles of lock frames can interchange and still work between grip frames (to the extant that both were more or less hand fitted).
They might work but would not be the protocol for a movie armourer to mismatch parts on a set of a big film. It’s not like the C96 are rare in anyway or the parts for that matter.
 
They might work but would not be the protocol for a movie armourer to mismatch parts on a set of a big film. It’s not like the C96 are rare in anyway or the parts for that matter.
We know Bapty swapped around C96 uppers and lowers. Although I'm not saying they did so in this case.
 
We know Bapty swapped around C96 uppers and lowers. Although I'm not saying they did so in this case.
Swapped uppers and lowers of the same model - sure. But swapping internals of a different model while not impossible is just more difficult and less probable. Especially as you mention the hand fit nature of the Mausers. The sear arm for example is completely different on many Mausers variations. Safety and firing mechanisms are things most armorers steer clear of modifying as they already have a list of parts that need to be altered for live fire blanks and set use.
 
Swapped uppers and lowers of the same model - sure. But swapping internals of a different model while not impossible is just more difficult and less probable. Especially as you mention the hand fit nature of the Mausers. The sear arm for example is completely different on many Mausers variations. Safety and firing mechanisms are things most armorers steer clear of modifying as they already have a list of parts that need to be altered for live fire blanks and set use.

All I'm saying is it's not out of the realm of possibility. I don't believe that armourers today necessarily have the same mindset as armourers of yesteryear. Remember this photo of children pointing a live-fire C96? Bapty certainly was not all that sacrosanct.

And FWIW, I've swapped several lock frames between M1930's and C96's with no fitting or safety issues. Sometimes a lock frame will not even swap within the same model line. But in my experience, if it fits, it usually works (unless it's a Schnellfeuer).

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The safeties with the hole in it are generally from the 1930 or M30 Mausers - also the M712. The interior parts are different notably the lock frame and safety mechanism - which wouldn’t matter if it where a static prop but most likely would not function properly in a live fire prop.

cone hammer, Large Ring, and pre war all also had safeties with holes. The two Former didn't go all the way through like the pre-war and post war guns, but the faces were drilled.
 
Well, it seems the discussion has stalled out a bit so maybe I can switch gears and ask if any newer members have learned anything from this thread, and would you change anything to make it clearer or more impactful?
 
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